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Janice · 11-19-2003, 01:06 AM

The two-parter, Crime and Punishment, was an incredible emotional episode.
Jackie crying in Roseanne's arms was heartbreaking, and Dan grabbing his jacket to confront Fisher sent the audience in an uproar. This was a live audience, wasn't it?
Darlene was hilarious bailing her father out of jail. The Jailhouse Rock tag scene was great.
I'm guessing this is one of the years that Laurie Metcalf won an Emmy. She delivered quite a performance.
This two-parter is my favorite episode so far, but I have a long way to go. Roseanne's father's funeral episode would come in a close second.

Beyotch Knowles · 11-19-2003, 01:11 AM

I loved the Part I tag with DJ's principal seeing Dan in the police car.

I noticed that the opening credits for Part I were different than those used for Part II. It was the same people, same clothes, eating pizza, but their actions were different. I wonder what would be the point of having two different themes for one season.

Janice · 11-19-2003, 01:19 AM

I noticed the music in the opener was really jazzed up, then in part-two, it returned to normal.
The first, different theme was great. I love that music...always loved horns.
Does anyone know who plays that music?

Brent88 · 11-19-2003, 11:41 AM

The first episode had the extended version of the 5th season theme song...

Yes, this is one of my more favorite episodes.

Yes, that was a live audience as far as I can tell.

Yes, N@N showed the Son of a .... comment.

Janice · 11-19-2003, 01:37 PM

I wonder who the musician is who plays that music. It doesn't sound like a run of the mill piece. To me, it's off the charts. I love it, especially that version I heard the other night on Part 1 of Crime and Punishment.

dina18 · 11-19-2003, 02:43 PM

I agree that this is a wonderful episode! I don't know if this happens to anyone else but the entire time I can't get it out of my head that :Laurie Metcalf ends up marrying Matt Roth (Fisher). Don't know if anyone else thinks about this during the episode...

BlackKitty87 · 11-20-2003, 05:21 PM

I didn`t know Jackie married Fisher. I only watched a few eps of it when it was on in the 90s, so I don`t remember much. Is that who she gets pregnant by?

HuntingtonM15 · 11-20-2003, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by BlackKitty87
I didn`t know Jackie married Fisher. I only watched a few eps of it when it was on in the 90s, so I don`t remember much. Is that who she gets pregnant by?

Jackie didn't marry Fisher. Laurie Metcalf married Matt Roth. The actors, not the characters.

BlackKitty87 · 11-20-2003, 08:46 PM

oooooo! Ok, I read it wrong!

Janice · 11-21-2003, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HuntingtonM15
Jackie didn't marry Fisher. Laurie Metcalf married Matt Roth. The actors, not the characters.

Did they meet on the set or did Laurie bring him on? Also, is there a big age difference between them, and do they have kids?
Pain in the neck me. Sorry. Thanks.

Brent88 · 11-21-2003, 10:48 AM

Yes... Jackie is pregnant on the show in Season 6(the season after the one now) but the storyline is FRED gets her pregnant. Well in REAL-LIFE she was pregnant and Fisher was the father. In the episode "Labor Day" where she gives birth, in the opening tag Jackie is three days overdue and she lifts up her shirt and says "I HAVE A THREE-DAY OLD BABY INSIDE OF ME!" and at that point, it is obvious she is pregnant in real-life, a faked pregnancy couldn't do that.

Southern Hellraiser · 04-09-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent88

Yes... Jackie is pregnant on the show in Season 6(the season after the one now) but the storyline is FRED gets her pregnant. Well in REAL-LIFE she was pregnant and Fisher was the father. In the episode "Labor Day" where she gives birth, in the opening tag Jackie is three days overdue and she lifts up her shirt and says "I HAVE A THREE-DAY OLD BABY INSIDE OF ME!" and at that point, it is obvious she is pregnant in real-life, a faked pregnancy couldn't do that.

She was not pregnant then. She had the real baby in Nov. 93. That thing in 94 was a specially made stomach that looked like a pregnant womans' belly.

Vjwsunny · 04-10-2005, 03:08 AM

i should know i have had 3 kids myself. and if it was fake they are way past special makeup. If you look at her ribs and stomach that is a baby on board.

Will and Grace Fanatic · 04-20-2005, 09:29 PM

This was a great episode. One of the few episodes that actually made me cry.

sg1niner · 04-20-2005, 10:22 PM

Yes, this was a powerful 2-parter. One of the many things I liked is Dan did what he did with zero regret.

As a 10 year old and on, I watched for 9 years while my sister was abused by her husband, so this ep really impacted me.

When Dan grabbed his coat and simply walked out, I knew Fisher's ass was grass and Dan was the mower.

Dan's da man.

(And yeah, the bit when Darlene goes down to bail out Dan is great... just about anything with both is great any way.)

11-19-2003, 01:06 AM	#1
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Fisher beating Jackie The two-parter, Crime and Punishment, was an incredible emotional episode. Jackie crying in Roseanne's arms was heartbreaking, and Dan grabbing his jacket to confront Fisher sent the audience in an uproar. This was a live audience, wasn't it? Darlene was hilarious bailing her father out of jail. The Jailhouse Rock tag scene was great. I'm guessing this is one of the years that Laurie Metcalf won an Emmy. She delivered quite a performance. This two-parter is my favorite episode so far, but I have a long way to go. Roseanne's father's funeral episode would come in a close second.

11-19-2003, 02:43 PM	#6
dina18 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Location: Windsor, CT Posts: 30	fisher beating jackie I agree that this is a wonderful episode! I don't know if this happens to anyone else but the entire time I can't get it out of my head that :Laurie Metcalf ends up marrying Matt Roth (Fisher). Don't know if anyone else thinks about this during the episode...

04-10-2005, 03:08 AM	#13
Vjwsunny Veronica Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 26, 2005 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 24	I dont think so that was a real pregant belly i should know i have had 3 kids myself. and if it was fake they are way past special makeup. If you look at her ribs and stomach that is a baby on board.

04-20-2005, 09:29 PM	#14
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04-20-2005, 10:22 PM	#15
sg1niner Bill Maxwell's Woman Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 10, 2005 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 132	Yes, this was a powerful 2-parter. One of the many things I liked is Dan did what he did with zero regret. As a 10 year old and on, I watched for 9 years while my sister was abused by her husband, so this ep really impacted me. When Dan grabbed his coat and simply walked out, I knew Fisher's ass was grass and Dan was the mower. Dan's da man. (And yeah, the bit when Darlene goes down to bail out Dan is great... just about anything with both is great any way.)
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11-19-2003, 01:11 AM	#2
Beyotch Knowles Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 27, 2003 Posts: 26	I loved the Part I tag with DJ's principal seeing Dan in the police car. I noticed that the opening credits for Part I were different than those used for Part II. It was the same people, same clothes, eating pizza, but their actions were different. I wonder what would be the point of having two different themes for one season.

11-19-2003, 01:19 AM	#3
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	I noticed the music in the opener was really jazzed up, then in part-two, it returned to normal. The first, different theme was great. I love that music...always loved horns. Does anyone know who plays that music?

11-19-2003, 11:41 AM	#4
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	The first episode had the extended version of the 5th season theme song... Yes, this is one of my more favorite episodes. Yes, that was a live audience as far as I can tell. Yes, N@N showed the Son of a .... comment.

11-19-2003, 01:37 PM	#5
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	I wonder who the musician is who plays that music. It doesn't sound like a run of the mill piece. To me, it's off the charts. I love it, especially that version I heard the other night on Part 1 of Crime and Punishment.

11-20-2003, 05:21 PM	#7
BlackKitty87 Flowerchild Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 19, 2003 Location: PA Posts: 351	I didn`t know Jackie married Fisher. I only watched a few eps of it when it was on in the 90s, so I don`t remember much. Is that who she gets pregnant by?

11-20-2003, 08:46 PM	#9
BlackKitty87 Flowerchild Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 19, 2003 Location: PA Posts: 351	oooooo! Ok, I read it wrong!

11-21-2003, 10:48 AM	#11
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	Yes... Jackie is pregnant on the show in Season 6(the season after the one now) but the storyline is FRED gets her pregnant. Well in REAL-LIFE she was pregnant and Fisher was the father. In the episode "Labor Day" where she gives birth, in the opening tag Jackie is three days overdue and she lifts up her shirt and says "I HAVE A THREE-DAY OLD BABY INSIDE OF ME!" and at that point, it is obvious she is pregnant in real-life, a faked pregnancy couldn't do that.