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Ags2000 · 11-13-2003, 03:22 PM

Thru A Rapist's Eyes (Not a joke-please read)

A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:

1) The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle.
They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.

2) The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who's clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around to cut clothing.

3) They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.

4) The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in the early morning, between 5 and 8:30 am.

5) The number one place women are abducted from/attacked at is grocery store parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three is public restrooms.

6) The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to a second location where they don't have to worry about getting caught.

7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

8) If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged
because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming.

9) These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it.

10) Several defense mechanisms he taught us are:

If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk, I can't believe it is so cold out here, we're in for a bad winter. Now you've seen their face and could identify them in a line-up, you lose appeal as a target.

11) If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell Stop or Stay back! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

12) If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yelling I HAVE PEPPER SPRAYand holding it out will be a deterrent.

13) If someone grabs you, you can't beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind,pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh -- HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it; it hurts.

14) After the initial hit, always go for the groin.. I know from a
particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it
is extremely painful. You might think that you'll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble, and he's out of there.

15) When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible.. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.

16) Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your instincts. You may feel a little silly at the time, but you'd feel much worse if the guy really was trouble.

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LILFACE23 · 11-13-2003, 03:28 PM

Wow. All of that is great to know. Thank you. Was this an interview on T.V. or in the paper?

Ags2000 · 11-13-2003, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by LILFACE23
Wow. All of that is great to know. Thank you. Was this an interview on T.V. or in the paper?

Actually a friend of mine emailed it to me.

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Swimfan85 · 11-13-2003, 04:39 PM

thats really interesting info, thanks!

yah, my friend carries pepper spray on her

pandora_spocks · 11-13-2003, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ags2000

7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

#7 is bull****. Getting raped could scar a woman for life. The rapist should get a life sentence whether they carry a weapon or not. What the hell is wrong with this world. I swear, these guys need to get off more otherwise they wouldn't be out raping women.

Anyway, thanks for posting this.

Crimson and Clover · 11-13-2003, 05:37 PM

Thats interesting stuff. My sister carries pepper spray around. But I never have.

Jrnygrl · 11-13-2003, 07:58 PM

WOW!!!! Thanks for the information.

Lynn · 11-13-2003, 08:25 PM

Thanks for posting that Ags. Knowledge is power.

sara · 11-13-2003, 11:42 PM

Thanks for the info. I should probably get some pepper spary.

dandelion wine · 11-14-2003, 01:25 AM

Not only do I carry pepper spray, but a whistle as well. I'm forwarding this on to friends, Ags. Thank you for posting this!

Liza · 11-14-2003, 03:44 AM

I also got this in an email a long time ago - but I deleted it. Thanks for posting it again

Also - a BIG one that's left out: ladies, watch your drinks! It seems so obvious but you'd be surprised just how often it happens. If a guy you don't know wants to get you a drink - ask for something he'd have to open at the table or go with him to the bar. Don't let him bring you back a glass - especially if your friends aren't with you.

My floor took a self-defense course it was really interesting. If a guy grabs you by the wrist, grab your hand with your other arm and swing it away (as you would a baseball bat) seriously, it works every time.

And, like it said, don't be afraid to tell a guy to back off. Honest guys will understand.

Mijada · 11-14-2003, 10:07 AM

That's some great info. Thanks for posting it. I'll definitely be more careful from now on. I'll admit that I'm not always alert when I walk out to my car early in the morning but I need to be.

M82A1 · 11-14-2003, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pandora_spocks
#7 is bull****. Getting raped could scar a woman for life. The rapist should get a life sentence whether they carry a weapon or not. What the hell is wrong with this world. I swear, these guys need to get off more otherwise they wouldn't be out raping women.

I know! Some of the laws in this country are extremely bogus. If someone is sick enough to molest a child, or rape someone, 20 years in prison aren't going to deter them from doing it again!

EricIdlefan · 11-14-2003, 10:43 AM

I think I need to enroll in martial arts classes!!

sokar lord of natu · 11-14-2003, 08:00 PM

and what are men supposed to do?
youll find that there are alot of women rapists as well, as well as the fact that alot more abuse is being started by women, i have a qoute around but i cant be bothered to look for it.
women can be to blame just as much as men.

11-13-2003, 03:22 PM	#1
Ags2000 Red 2/13/90 -1/5/06 Forum Veteran Join Date: May 02, 2001 Location: Candyland Posts: 5,544	Info EVERY Woman needs needs to know! Thru A Rapist's Eyes (Not a joke-please read) A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts: 1) The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets. 2) The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who's clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around to cut clothing. 3) They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered. 4) The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in the early morning, between 5 and 8:30 am. 5) The number one place women are abducted from/attacked at is grocery store parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number three is public restrooms. 6) The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to a second location where they don't have to worry about getting caught. 7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years. 8) If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming. 9) These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it. 10) Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk, I can't believe it is so cold out here, we're in for a bad winter. Now you've seen their face and could identify them in a line-up, you lose appeal as a target. 11) If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell Stop or Stay back! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target. 12) If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes,) yelling I HAVE PEPPER SPRAYand holding it out will be a deterrent. 13) If someone grabs you, you can't beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind,pinch the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the upper inner thigh -- HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it; it hurts. 14) After the initial hit, always go for the groin.. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you'll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble, and he's out of there. 15) When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible.. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly. 16) Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your instincts. You may feel a little silly at the time, but you'd feel much worse if the guy really was trouble. D

11-13-2003, 03:28 PM	#2
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11-13-2003, 05:37 PM	#6
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11-13-2003, 11:42 PM	#9
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11-14-2003, 10:43 AM	#14
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11-13-2003, 04:39 PM	#4
Swimfan85 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 04, 2001 Posts: 7,030	thats really interesting info, thanks! yah, my friend carries pepper spray on her

11-13-2003, 07:58 PM	#7
Jrnygrl Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 03, 2003 Location: wheel in the sky Posts: 4,540	WOW!!!! Thanks for the information.

11-13-2003, 08:25 PM	#8
Lynn Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 07, 2001 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 744	Thanks for posting that Ags. Knowledge is power.

11-14-2003, 01:25 AM	#10
dandelion wine ~ Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 20, 2003 Location: Behind the Couch Posts: 34,967	Not only do I carry pepper spray, but a whistle as well. I'm forwarding this on to friends, Ags. Thank you for posting this!

11-14-2003, 03:44 AM	#11
Liza BestYearsofOurLives Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 24, 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6,537	I also got this in an email a long time ago - but I deleted it. Thanks for posting it again Also - a BIG one that's left out: ladies, watch your drinks! It seems so obvious but you'd be surprised just how often it happens. If a guy you don't know wants to get you a drink - ask for something he'd have to open at the table or go with him to the bar. Don't let him bring you back a glass - especially if your friends aren't with you. My floor took a self-defense course it was really interesting. If a guy grabs you by the wrist, grab your hand with your other arm and swing it away (as you would a baseball bat) seriously, it works every time. And, like it said, don't be afraid to tell a guy to back off. Honest guys will understand.

11-14-2003, 10:07 AM	#12
Mijada Spencers mom Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 02, 2001 Location: eastern US Posts: 4,093	That's some great info. Thanks for posting it. I'll definitely be more careful from now on. I'll admit that I'm not always alert when I walk out to my car early in the morning but I need to be.

11-14-2003, 08:00 PM	#15
sokar lord of natu Banned Banned!! Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 10, 2003 Posts: 18	and what are men supposed to do? youll find that there are alot of women rapists as well, as well as the fact that alot more abuse is being started by women, i have a qoute around but i cant be bothered to look for it. women can be to blame just as much as men.