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callmetootie · 03-25-2001, 03:10 PM

I just remembered last night that in The Facts Of Love episodes, it deals with virginity and sex-related topics. Why won't they air The First Time?

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kfoard · 03-26-2001, 12:53 PM

The Facts of Love eposide teaches you about sex and how not to be afaid of your body. There are a lot of parents who arent' quite sure how to bring up the subject on the birds and the bees, and if kids watch this eposide with there parents it might help parents be more at ease to talk to there kids about the subject.

First time - gives young people the idea that it's ok to go out and have sex at a young age. There are a lot of young people watching this show, and the people at Nick At Night proberly feel that since First time actually deals with people having sex it isnt' really approiate for younger viewers to watch. Facts of love eposide doesn't say go out and have sex it teaches you that it's ok to wait.

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Blair: Not this year old thunder thighs is hanging up her spikes
Sue Ann: and you gave me and idea right where I can stick em.

Natalie: From now on it's GOODBYE NATALIE HELLO HOT LIPS

(pretending to be a married couple)
Natalie: say I was talking to Harry today he wants us to come over for dinner some night
Tootie: tell Harry we have dinner everynight
Natalie: you call this dinner I call it gas for less

Natalie: five years of marriage and you touched me once how come
Tootie: it was an accident

Blair: look I know a phony when I see one
Jo: You should you spent enough time looking in the mirror

coily2 · 03-26-2001, 02:12 PM

See, that pisses me off.... It isn't such a young age. Nat was what, 20 or something when that episode was taking place? Given the younger age of many of our posters, I don't want to get into a whole moral battle about this, but I'll tell you what - looking back on my college years, 20 wasn't so young.

Off my soapbox now.

TVaddict · 03-26-2001, 02:34 PM

I completely agree coily. In college the way it is now, 20 is pretty late, believe me. It doesn't make it any more right or wrong, but they need to realize that it's not as big a deal as they think it is (the episode, that is) She was practically an adult, so it should not be such a huge controversial issue because it happens every day.

Love The Facts Of Life · 03-26-2001, 06:51 PM

I know I'm 13 years old and ny mom would'nt care if I watched it I mean she dos'nt wont me to go out and get pregnat or anything but liek you said nat is 20 and they could show it early in the morning.

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AlexzBonner · 03-26-2001, 07:08 PM

It's kinda like the TC thing. They'll show the ep with cocaine but they won't show the FOL ep 'Dope.' It doesn't make sense to me.

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FOL85NatandMrsGRock · 03-26-2001, 07:50 PM

Facts of life isn't the only show they will not air episodes on that deal with drugs, i guess there is a brady bunch (maybe not) episode with drugs, and there is a lavern and shirly one they won't show, and a happy days one they didn't show, so it's not just facts of life, i think they might have aired te TC one cuz it wasn't REAL drugs where they were tempted to DO drugs tehy just had it.. and they didnt' do drugs either.. cuz i know the dope episode sue ann DOES do drugs and she gets high off of them, and i know in the lavern and shirly episode lavern and shirly both try the drugs (i think) along with the happy days one.. but hey, i wouldn't want episdoes about kids doing drugs available for my kids (if i had any) to see that trying drugs is ok.. ya know? so i think nick at nite knows what they are doing!

lesliem14 · 03-26-2001, 08:54 PM

I firmly believe that censorship is wrong. Whether that institution is a school or a cable network they do not have a right to make a decision that should be made by parents. If my Mom was to decide I could not watch "The First Time" until I was old enough to understand the issues that is their perogative, but not N@N's perogative. I watch soaps which to my dismay are becoming more and more focused on pulling in the teen audience and know enough about the nightime shows that are geared for teens (do not watch them) that the issues N@N finds controversal are the norm for those shows. Soaps air opposite of Nick's "kid-centered" line-up. I actually find it harmful that N@N shies away from these topics because you are not solving anything. If a person is educated then they can determine what they feel is right and what is wrong. Education is the key. I remember the Cosby episode where they find the joint in Theo's book. After watching that episode my Mom and I discussed the issues involved. I think I was around 10, but my Mom decided it was better to educate me then to ignore the issue or not let me watch the episode.

TVAddict and coily- I'm a junior and completely agree with you about the current college environment and attitude towards sex.

FOL-FAN · 03-26-2001, 11:38 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by coily2:
See, that pisses me off.... It isn't such a young age. Nat was what, 20 or something when that episode was taking place? Given the younger age of many of our posters, I don't want to get into a whole moral battle about this, but I'll tell you what - looking back on my college years, 20 wasn't so young.

Off my soapbox now.[/QUOTE

I agree!!!

coily2 · 03-27-2001, 12:28 AM

Dammit, I just can't leave well enough alone. I'm giving my opinion once again...

OK, I think the major difference between TC and FOL drug/sex related topics is the demographic those shows are shooting for. FOL always has and always will get a younger audience than TC. And thanks to the happy-anti-peer-pressure-Nancy-Reagan-Just-Say-No-I-learned-it-from-watching-you-80's, it's assumed that you cannot make a choice on your own without trying to emulate a character on TV.

Furthermore, as a child of the 80's, let me tell you this - the 80's were not as clean-cut as TV would have you believe....

AAAAAAAAaaaaargh! I hate it when it is assumed that teens are incapable of making a decision that would vary from a fiction character.

OK... I'm better now... I need a drink after this post

03-27-2001, 12:42 AM

Going back to what was said earlier:::::

Trust me, with some of the people I know at my HIGH SCHOOL (yes, some there in the little small town High School), 20 is old.........

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Cokies · 03-27-2001, 01:54 AM

Being a sophmore in high school, 20 is kinda old, but absolutely nothing is wrong with waiting till then. The first part of that sentence was'nt totally my opinion, by the way. It's more of my peers point of view...

Still, kids see worse stuff on the news then ANYTHING that would be shown on FOL. And it's not like we can't deal with that.
N@N should'nt have to take responsbility for what a small percentage of what their audience 'can't' see. That's the parent's problem.
And too bad for some of you who's parents are too uptight and in denial that they're child is growing up...
Sorry, kinda blew up there at the end...

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03-27-2001, 09:15 AM

Someone referred to Nick airing a TC episode about cocaine. Which episode was it? I don't remember any episode with that topic. I like both FOL & TC so I'm not trying to irritate anyone.

TV Guy · 03-27-2001, 09:32 AM

I can honestly say I wouldn't have based my decision on whether or not to have sex at a young age on the actions of Natalie from "The Facts of Life". I'm really surprised N@N is using this reasoning to hold back episodes.
I've been looking for the "Dope" episode since last fall (Helen Hunt guest stars!) and just thought I kept missing it. I remember the "Laverne & Shirley" episode where they ate marijuana brownies, but it's from the Hollywood era, so I don't miss it. They won't show these drug-related episodes, but they will show the episode of "Three's Company" where Jack shows his scrotum <g>. Go figure.

I don't precisely remember what season "The Facts of Love" episode was from. Anybody know?

Lisa,Blair,GoodGirl · 03-27-2001, 02:25 PM

The facts of love came from season 1.

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Crus'N Is The best Episode ever made.
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I found a love a love you don't find every day.
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B:Go down the street, over a cliff whatever is handy!
J:Blair its a red light.
B:I don't care.
J:Thats all I wanted to hear.(Police car pulls them over)
J:You said you wanted to meet a guy.
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03-25-2001, 03:10 PM	#1
callmetootie Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 4,768	Virginity Issue In Effect! I just remembered last night that in The Facts Of Love episodes, it deals with virginity and sex-related topics. Why won't they air The First Time? ------------------ Andrew Carden

03-27-2001, 12:42 AM	#11
Devastation26 Guest Posts: n/a	Going back to what was said earlier::::: Trust me, with some of the people I know at my HIGH SCHOOL (yes, some there in the little small town High School), 20 is old......... ------------------ Andy: C'Mon Ms. Garrett, throw us a song. Ms. G.: Born in the U.S.S.R.
Devastation26 Guest Posts: n/a

03-27-2001, 09:15 AM	#13
D&R Guest Posts: n/a	Someone referred to Nick airing a TC episode about cocaine. Which episode was it? I don't remember any episode with that topic. I like both FOL & TC so I'm not trying to irritate anyone.
D&R Guest Posts: n/a

03-26-2001, 12:53 PM	#2
kfoard Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 21, 2000 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 194	The Facts of Love eposide teaches you about sex and how not to be afaid of your body. There are a lot of parents who arent' quite sure how to bring up the subject on the birds and the bees, and if kids watch this eposide with there parents it might help parents be more at ease to talk to there kids about the subject. First time - gives young people the idea that it's ok to go out and have sex at a young age. There are a lot of young people watching this show, and the people at Nick At Night proberly feel that since First time actually deals with people having sex it isnt' really approiate for younger viewers to watch. Facts of love eposide doesn't say go out and have sex it teaches you that it's ok to wait. ------------------ *************** Blair: Not this year old thunder thighs is hanging up her spikes Sue Ann: and you gave me and idea right where I can stick em. Natalie: From now on it's GOODBYE NATALIE HELLO HOT LIPS (pretending to be a married couple) Natalie: say I was talking to Harry today he wants us to come over for dinner some night Tootie: tell Harry we have dinner everynight Natalie: you call this dinner I call it gas for less Natalie: five years of marriage and you touched me once how come Tootie: it was an accident Blair: look I know a phony when I see one Jo: You should you spent enough time looking in the mirror

03-26-2001, 02:12 PM	#3
coily2 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 28, 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 969	See, that pisses me off.... It isn't such a young age. Nat was what, 20 or something when that episode was taking place? Given the younger age of many of our posters, I don't want to get into a whole moral battle about this, but I'll tell you what - looking back on my college years, 20 wasn't so young. Off my soapbox now.

03-26-2001, 02:34 PM	#4
TVaddict Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 30, 2000 Location: NH Posts: 562	I completely agree coily. In college the way it is now, 20 is pretty late, believe me. It doesn't make it any more right or wrong, but they need to realize that it's not as big a deal as they think it is (the episode, that is) She was practically an adult, so it should not be such a huge controversial issue because it happens every day.

03-26-2001, 06:51 PM	#5
Love The Facts Of Life FlUtTeRfLy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 18, 2001 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,515	I know I'm 13 years old and ny mom would'nt care if I watched it I mean she dos'nt wont me to go out and get pregnat or anything but liek you said nat is 20 and they could show it early in the morning. ------------------ ~~~~~~~~* Jo:I don't know you got to admit:Force has some good points. Blair:Jo's hoping to attend the Chuck Norris School Of Law Blair:If I don't spend money soon,well I'll just pull all my hair out. Jo:Good,we'll finally get to see what color the roots are. ~~~~~~~~* God Bless Everyone email me @ jinnyandteddy4ever@yahoo.com

03-26-2001, 07:08 PM	#6
AlexzBonner Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 11, 2001 Location: Muldrow, OK (Miss America '96's home town!) Posts: 284	It's kinda like the TC thing. They'll show the ep with cocaine but they won't show the FOL ep 'Dope.' It doesn't make sense to me. ------------------ Rachel: Like that key chain said, boys are like parking spaces, all the good ones are taken. Alexz: Yeah... too bad they don't come in silver mercedes benz! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Rachel: Have I ever been wrong? Alexz: Don't get me started! Don't EVEN get me started! ~_~ Kenzie ~_~ E-Mail-- teddysangeljinny@yahoo.com

03-26-2001, 07:50 PM	#7
FOL85NatandMrsGRock The Lovable Sarah Senior Member Join Date: Nov 07, 2000 Location: Wisconsin (Same Place Charlotte's From and where That 70's Show takes place!) .... Wish I was in Mayfield USA! Posts: 1,770	Facts of life isn't the only show they will not air episodes on that deal with drugs, i guess there is a brady bunch (maybe not) episode with drugs, and there is a lavern and shirly one they won't show, and a happy days one they didn't show, so it's not just facts of life, i think they might have aired te TC one cuz it wasn't REAL drugs where they were tempted to DO drugs tehy just had it.. and they didnt' do drugs either.. cuz i know the dope episode sue ann DOES do drugs and she gets high off of them, and i know in the lavern and shirly episode lavern and shirly both try the drugs (i think) along with the happy days one.. but hey, i wouldn't want episdoes about kids doing drugs available for my kids (if i had any) to see that trying drugs is ok.. ya know? so i think nick at nite knows what they are doing!

03-26-2001, 08:54 PM	#8
lesliem14 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Frankfort, KY Posts: 650	I firmly believe that censorship is wrong. Whether that institution is a school or a cable network they do not have a right to make a decision that should be made by parents. If my Mom was to decide I could not watch "The First Time" until I was old enough to understand the issues that is their perogative, but not N@N's perogative. I watch soaps which to my dismay are becoming more and more focused on pulling in the teen audience and know enough about the nightime shows that are geared for teens (do not watch them) that the issues N@N finds controversal are the norm for those shows. Soaps air opposite of Nick's "kid-centered" line-up. I actually find it harmful that N@N shies away from these topics because you are not solving anything. If a person is educated then they can determine what they feel is right and what is wrong. Education is the key. I remember the Cosby episode where they find the joint in Theo's book. After watching that episode my Mom and I discussed the issues involved. I think I was around 10, but my Mom decided it was better to educate me then to ignore the issue or not let me watch the episode. TVAddict and coily- I'm a junior and completely agree with you about the current college environment and attitude towards sex.

03-26-2001, 11:38 PM	#9
FOL-FAN Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 05, 2001 Posts: 434	[QUOTE]Originally posted by coily2: See, that pisses me off.... It isn't such a young age. Nat was what, 20 or something when that episode was taking place? Given the younger age of many of our posters, I don't want to get into a whole moral battle about this, but I'll tell you what - looking back on my college years, 20 wasn't so young. Off my soapbox now.[/QUOTE I agree!!!

03-27-2001, 12:28 AM	#10
coily2 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 28, 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 969	Dammit, I just can't leave well enough alone. I'm giving my opinion once again... OK, I think the major difference between TC and FOL drug/sex related topics is the demographic those shows are shooting for. FOL always has and always will get a younger audience than TC. And thanks to the happy-anti-peer-pressure-Nancy-Reagan-Just-Say-No-I-learned-it-from-watching-you-80's, it's assumed that you cannot make a choice on your own without trying to emulate a character on TV. Furthermore, as a child of the 80's, let me tell you this - the 80's were not as clean-cut as TV would have you believe.... AAAAAAAAaaaaargh! I hate it when it is assumed that teens are incapable of making a decision that would vary from a fiction character. OK... I'm better now... I need a drink after this post

03-27-2001, 01:54 AM	#12
Cokies Head Goonie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 28, 2000 Location: Benicia, CA USA Posts: 1,719	Being a sophmore in high school, 20 is kinda old, but absolutely nothing is wrong with waiting till then. The first part of that sentence was'nt totally my opinion, by the way. It's more of my peers point of view... Still, kids see worse stuff on the news then ANYTHING that would be shown on FOL. And it's not like we can't deal with that. N@N should'nt have to take responsbility for what a small percentage of what their audience 'can't' see. That's the parent's problem. And too bad for some of you who's parents are too uptight and in denial that they're child is growing up... Sorry, kinda blew up there at the end... ------------------ "It was just like Saturday Night Fever, only it was a Friday." [This message has been edited by Cokies (edited 03-27-2001).]

03-27-2001, 09:32 AM	#14
TV Guy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 3,419	I can honestly say I wouldn't have based my decision on whether or not to have sex at a young age on the actions of Natalie from "The Facts of Life". I'm really surprised N@N is using this reasoning to hold back episodes. I've been looking for the "Dope" episode since last fall (Helen Hunt guest stars!) and just thought I kept missing it. I remember the "Laverne & Shirley" episode where they ate marijuana brownies, but it's from the Hollywood era, so I don't miss it. They won't show these drug-related episodes, but they will show the episode of "Three's Company" where Jack shows his scrotum <g>. Go figure. I don't precisely remember what season "The Facts of Love" episode was from. Anybody know?

03-27-2001, 02:25 PM	#15
Lisa,Blair,GoodGirl Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 09, 2001 Posts: 60	The facts of love came from season 1. ------------------ Crus'N Is The best Episode ever made. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I found a love a love you don't find every day. ------------------------- B:Go down the street, over a cliff whatever is handy! J:Blair its a red light. B:I don't care. J:Thats all I wanted to hear.(Police car pulls them over) J:You said you wanted to meet a guy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~