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gokartgod86 · 10-27-2003, 01:50 AM

Hey All-

Does anyone else agree with me that the show got worse after Elliot (Michael Angarano) left? I have two theories behind this:

1.) The loss of the one character my own age made the show harder to relate to. (But I thought the show was funny before he was even on.)

2.) Elliot's departure roughly coincided with Leo (Harry Connick, Jr.'s) arrival.

Who else agrees?

spookystarbuck · 10-27-2003, 06:14 AM

I don't think it got worse. It was different.
I loved the show before he arrived and since he left...(and I can't even remember when that was, I just remember not seeing him. lol) the show is still funny. He was really cute though.

Eddie Haskell · 10-27-2003, 06:16 AM

I think the show is going downhill but not because of some 15 year old kid. I just think the writers are running out of ideas and who ever decided that Harry Connick Jr. was funny.......he isn't.

Montana Ponine · 10-28-2003, 10:51 AM

I don't know, I didnt really notice! LOL. But I liked Elliot a lot, wish he would have stayed. He was funny. I'd rather have Elliot than Leo.

felicitylen · 10-28-2003, 11:16 AM

When did Elliot leave? I forgot! (lol). I think what keeps the show going is Karen and Jack. I think Leo needs to go because it seems like Grace still goes running to Will. They should let Leo go and bring Elliot back.

#1Delta&Liz_Fan! · 10-28-2003, 06:04 PM

I definetly disagree. Elliot was not even a "regular" character; he had a recurring role as Jack's son. Don't get me wrong, I agree that he was a great character, but not quite an asset to the show. I actually did not know that he "left." I noticed he hadn't been on in a while, but was the actor who plays him not asked to return or something? Now Jack and Karen are most definetly assets to show. If there's a 'serious' moment between Will and/or Grace, I definetly look to Jack and Karen for comic relief!

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Will and Grace Fanatic · 10-28-2003, 10:07 PM

I don't think he has been written out of the show complety. They just haven't written in in episodes at this time. He's just a reaccuring character not a regular cast member. I don't think it has gone down hill since his last appearance however.

*Pleasant Tomorrow* · 01-12-2004, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Will and Grace Fanatic
I don't think he has been written out of the show complety. They just haven't written in in episodes at this time. He's just a reaccuring character not a regular cast member. I don't think it has gone down hill since his last appearance however.

Yeah, I agree.

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10-27-2003, 01:50 AM	#1
gokartgod86 Elliot's Replacement Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 27, 2003 Location: The Midwest Posts: 5	Come on, who's with me? Hey All- Does anyone else agree with me that the show got worse after Elliot (Michael Angarano) left? I have two theories behind this: 1.) The loss of the one character my own age made the show harder to relate to. (But I thought the show was funny before he was even on.) 2.) Elliot's departure roughly coincided with Leo (Harry Connick, Jr.'s) arrival. Who else agrees?
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10-27-2003, 06:14 AM	#2
spookystarbuck Kiss my Ass! Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 21, 2003 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 59	I don't think it got worse. It was different. I loved the show before he arrived and since he left...(and I can't even remember when that was, I just remember not seeing him. lol) the show is still funny. He was really cute though.
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10-27-2003, 06:16 AM	#3
Eddie Haskell Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 11, 2002 Location: Mayfield Posts: 645	I think the show is going downhill but not because of some 15 year old kid. I just think the writers are running out of ideas and who ever decided that Harry Connick Jr. was funny.......he isn't.
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10-28-2003, 06:04 PM	#6
#1Delta&Liz_Fan! Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 21, 2002 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 9	I definetly disagree. Elliot was not even a "regular" character; he had a recurring role as Jack's son. Don't get me wrong, I agree that he was a great character, but not quite an asset to the show. I actually did not know that he "left." I noticed he hadn't been on in a while, but was the actor who plays him not asked to return or something? Now Jack and Karen are most definetly assets to show. If there's a 'serious' moment between Will and/or Grace, I definetly look to Jack and Karen for comic relief! ~Bridget
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10-28-2003, 10:51 AM	#4
Montana Ponine Tragically Beautiful Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 18, 2001 Location: Sondheimville Posts: 4,529	I don't know, I didnt really notice! LOL. But I liked Elliot a lot, wish he would have stayed. He was funny. I'd rather have Elliot than Leo.

10-28-2003, 11:16 AM	#5
felicitylen Keep Austin WEIRD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 17, 2003 Location: Hook 'em Horns Posts: 1,606	When did Elliot leave? I forgot! (lol). I think what keeps the show going is Karen and Jack. I think Leo needs to go because it seems like Grace still goes running to Will. They should let Leo go and bring Elliot back.

10-28-2003, 10:07 PM	#7
Will and Grace Fanatic be happy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 15, 2002 Location: seattle, washington Posts: 2,746	I don't think he has been written out of the show complety. They just haven't written in in episodes at this time. He's just a reaccuring character not a regular cast member. I don't think it has gone down hill since his last appearance however.
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