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Adamantium · 10-21-2003, 12:00 AM

So if anyone here wants to see Thomas Haden Church post-Lowell it's on WE at 7:30PM. I'm guessing every weeknight. Remember, this is the show he left "Wings" to do. I personally think it's a very funny show. Although it only made 46 episodes, so I'm not in the majority there. They aired the first one tonight.

Stacey: So what are you Right-Wing?

Ned: Actually, I'm Wingless.

pilotguy · 10-21-2003, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by TVAdam

Stacey: So what are you Right-Wing?

Ned: Actually, I'm Wingless.

That is one FUNNY "inside" joke!

I've never seen "Ned and Stacey" before, but I'm anxious to check it out, if only to see Thomas Haden Church in a role which apparently is SO different from Lowell Mather!

Happenstance · 10-22-2003, 12:47 AM

It also comes on at 11:00am too. Same episode, 2 chances to see it.

Krista2882 · 10-22-2003, 11:36 AM

i just caught the last 5 minutes of an episode....
didn't like it. haha. I'll gove it another chance though. It just didn't seem very funny.
I didn't know that Debra Messing was on that show. She was highly annoying. lol. I think she's funny on "Will & Grace", but from what I saw of "Ned & Stacey", she annoyed me. lol.
I'm kind of neutral about Thomas Haden Church on that show... I'l need to see another episode.

I'll give the show another chance though, since I only saw 5 minutes of it.

Adamantium · 10-22-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Krista2882
i just caught the last 5 minutes of an episode....
didn't like it. haha. I'll gove it another chance though. It just didn't seem very funny.
I didn't know that Debra Messing was on that show. She was highly annoying. lol. I think she's funny on "Will & Grace", but from what I saw of "Ned & Stacey", she annoyed me. lol.
I'm kind of neutral about Thomas Haden Church on that show... I'l need to see another episode.

It has sort of a mean sense of humor to it. I love the show though. I admit the second episode wasn't laugh-out-loud funny, but as I recall it gets better. Plus there were a couple inside jokes. Like one where Ned is watching television and laughing. Then he says "Wings, what a zany show." However in the second season of the show, Thomas Haden Church has the worst hairdo I've ever seen him have. Also in the second season they focus more on Ned and Amanda who both work at a Muffin shop together.

pilotguy · 10-22-2003, 08:44 PM

I saw my first "Ned and Stacey" tonight, and it's going to take some REAL getting used to!

I just can't handle Thomas Haden Church in that sarcastic "yuppie" role yet....it's almost like someone else's brain has been planted into Lowell Mather's body!

This jarring "character shock" was probably a major reason why the "Ned and Stacey" series wasn't a big hit....actually, I could see Steven Weber as Ned before Thomas Haden Church...however, out of respect for Mr. Church and his "Wings" legacy, I WILL give "Ned and Stacey" a few more chances and try to get into the show.

AngeFaitore · 10-23-2003, 09:37 AM

Mmm... Thomas Haden Church in suits.

pilotguy · 10-23-2003, 11:57 AM

In thinking over the "Ned & Stacey" series, I would have to say that Thomas Haden Church's "Ned" HAS to be one of the most radical changes that an actor ever made going from one TV series to another....

Lucille Ball, John Ritter, Bill Cosby, Redd Foxx, Bob Newhart, Bea Arthur, Dick Van Dyke, Andy Griffith and others went from one TV series to another and played different characters...but the characters weren't TOO different! They didn't play a nice, naive person in one series and a totally obnoxious and nasty RAT in another!

Plus, most of the above actors let at least a couple of seasons go by between different series...they didn't leave one series and go DIRECTLY into another.

To Thomas Haden Church's credit, I think that it took real GUTS to do what he did.....to leave one character and go right into a completely DIFFERENT kind of character...but I also think that perhaps the quick change was more than what many viewers who had enjoyed him on "Wings" could handle!

AngeFaitore · 10-24-2003, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by pilotguy
In thinking over the "Ned & Stacey" series, I would have to say that Thomas Haden Church's "Ned" HAS to be one of the most radical changes that an actor ever made going from one TV series to another....

Lucille Ball, John Ritter, Bill Cosby, Redd Foxx, Bob Newhart, Bea Arthur, Dick Van Dyke, Andy Griffith and others went from one TV series to another and played different characters...but the characters weren't TOO different! They didn't play a nice, naive person in one series and a totally obnoxious and nasty RAT in another!

Plus, most of the above actors let at least a couple of seasons go by between different series...they didn't leave one series and go DIRECTLY into another.

To Thomas Haden Church's credit, I think that it took real GUTS to do what he did.....to leave one character and go right into a completely DIFFERENT kind of character...but I also think that perhaps the quick change was more than what many viewers who had enjoyed him on "Wings" could handle!

Preach it, brotha.
Thomas Haden Church is versitile!

"Thou Shalt Have Fun!"
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Adamantium · 10-27-2003, 11:54 PM

In tonight's episode, Ned mentions the leap year. That got me thinking of Roy over at Wings. Since that same season, he was celebrating his birthday at that kid's restaurant.

AngeFaitore · 10-28-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by TVAdam
In tonight's episode, Ned mentions the leap year. That got me thinking of Roy over at Wings. Since that same season, he was celebrating his birthday at that kid's restaurant.

Was it just me, or did Thomas Haden Church sing an awful lot in that episode? (it's one of the eps I've never seen! Yay!)

Adamantium · 10-28-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by AngeFaitore
Was it just me, or did Thomas Haden Church sing an awful lot in that episode? (it's one of the eps I've never seen! Yay!)

Ned didn't seem like the jerk he usually is. He reminded me of a more confident Lowell of season six. I know this isn't the "Ned and Stacey" board, but I figured since Thomas Haden Church was in it, it would be okay to talk about here. But just for his acting, not for the show itself.

I seem to be one of the few people who was glad Thomas went to Ned & Stacey. I mean, sure he was missed in the last two seasons of "Wings", but I wouldn't like "Ned & Stacey" if he wasn't Ned. And even though the show lasted for two seasons, it almost seemed right, since from the beginning, Ned and Stacey said they would only be together for two years. It's like they knew from the beginning how long the show would last. Plus it gave Thomas a chance to play something other than Lowell and I'm sure he loved that.

Since Lowell wasn't in every episode, it gave me a chance to appreciate him more while he's there. Sometimes it takes a character to leave a show before I realize how great they were.

AngeFaitore · 10-28-2003, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by TVAdam
Ned didn't seem like the jerk he usually is. He reminded me of a more confident Lowell of season six. I know this isn't the "Ned and Stacey" board, but I figured since Thomas Haden Church was in it, it would be okay to talk about here. But just for his acting, not for the show itself.

I seem to be one of the few people who was glad Thomas went to Ned & Stacey. I mean, sure he was missed in the last two seasons of "Wings", but I wouldn't like "Ned & Stacey" if he wasn't Ned. And even though the show lasted for two seasons, it almost seemed right, since from the beginning, Ned and Stacey said they would only be together for two years. It's like they knew from the beginning how long the show would last. Plus it gave Thomas a chance to play something other than Lowell and I'm sure he loved that.

Since Lowell wasn't in every episode, it gave me a chance to appreciate him more while he's there. Sometimes it takes a character to leave a show before I realize how great they were.

Well, I'd advise you to keep a flame-thrower handy on the N&S board... another member and I don't get along well.
Anyway, I agree that Thomas Haden Church has improved as an actor since he was in N&S. I hope his next BIG movie, "Sideways" (by the director of "About Shmidt" (sp?)), which is being distributed by Fox Searchlight, does well. He's supposed to have a top-billing role as one of the main characters.
Maybe he'll possibly be upgraded to B-list actor status.
The more support he gets, the more recodnised he will be.
The only thing that I hope doesn't happen is that the tabloids will get after him if "Sideways" gets popular. He has a pretty peaceful life without the press on him (there are rarely ever any articles about Thomas... anywhere). I pray that his life stays the same.
We don't need anyone calling him TeeChurch (something like JLo?).

10-21-2003, 12:00 AM	#1
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,839	Ned & Stacey Now on WE So if anyone here wants to see Thomas Haden Church post-Lowell it's on WE at 7:30PM. I'm guessing every weeknight. Remember, this is the show he left "Wings" to do. I personally think it's a very funny show. Although it only made 46 episodes, so I'm not in the majority there. They aired the first one tonight. Stacey: So what are you Right-Wing? Ned: Actually, I'm Wingless.

10-23-2003, 09:37 AM	#7
AngeFaitore This Week's Logo Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 30, 2002 Location: Something somewhere, in some way at some point and time Posts: 690	Mmm... Thomas Haden Church in suits.
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10-22-2003, 12:47 AM	#3
Happenstance Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 08, 2003 Posts: 29	It also comes on at 11:00am too. Same episode, 2 chances to see it.

10-22-2003, 11:36 AM	#4
Krista2882 Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 10, 2003 Location: CT Posts: 1,370	i just caught the last 5 minutes of an episode.... didn't like it. haha. I'll gove it another chance though. It just didn't seem very funny. I didn't know that Debra Messing was on that show. She was highly annoying. lol. I think she's funny on "Will & Grace", but from what I saw of "Ned & Stacey", she annoyed me. lol. I'm kind of neutral about Thomas Haden Church on that show... I'l need to see another episode. I'll give the show another chance though, since I only saw 5 minutes of it.

10-22-2003, 08:44 PM	#6
pilotguy Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 09, 2003 Posts: 1,305	I saw my first "Ned and Stacey" tonight, and it's going to take some REAL getting used to! I just can't handle Thomas Haden Church in that sarcastic "yuppie" role yet....it's almost like someone else's brain has been planted into Lowell Mather's body! This jarring "character shock" was probably a major reason why the "Ned and Stacey" series wasn't a big hit....actually, I could see Steven Weber as Ned before Thomas Haden Church...however, out of respect for Mr. Church and his "Wings" legacy, I WILL give "Ned and Stacey" a few more chances and try to get into the show.

10-23-2003, 11:57 AM	#8
pilotguy Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 09, 2003 Posts: 1,305	In thinking over the "Ned & Stacey" series, I would have to say that Thomas Haden Church's "Ned" HAS to be one of the most radical changes that an actor ever made going from one TV series to another.... Lucille Ball, John Ritter, Bill Cosby, Redd Foxx, Bob Newhart, Bea Arthur, Dick Van Dyke, Andy Griffith and others went from one TV series to another and played different characters...but the characters weren't TOO different! They didn't play a nice, naive person in one series and a totally obnoxious and nasty RAT in another! Plus, most of the above actors let at least a couple of seasons go by between different series...they didn't leave one series and go DIRECTLY into another. To Thomas Haden Church's credit, I think that it took real GUTS to do what he did.....to leave one character and go right into a completely DIFFERENT kind of character...but I also think that perhaps the quick change was more than what many viewers who had enjoyed him on "Wings" could handle!

10-27-2003, 11:54 PM	#10
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,839	In tonight's episode, Ned mentions the leap year. That got me thinking of Roy over at Wings. Since that same season, he was celebrating his birthday at that kid's restaurant.