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pilotguy · 10-08-2003, 03:00 AM

With Arnold S. being elected governor of California, it really opens the door for other celebrities to hold public office as well....

Who knows? Maybe in a few years Tim Daly will be elected President...and Steven Weber could be his V.P.....although I'm not sure how well that would work....

I can see it now...Tim is standing at the podium, seriously delivering his State-of-the-Union speech....

....and Steven is standing behind him, holding two of his fingers behind Tim's head, giving him a set of "devil horns"!

AgtSkye · 10-08-2003, 04:28 AM

I was angry tonight cos for a minute it seemed election coverage was going to postpone my fave music artist being on the Tonight Show, but luckily it was quick. And yes it is Ahnold...lol.
Famous people may seem cool to run for office, but I don't like the idea of them selling their souls to the political process. I don't have any respect for politicians. And celebrities probably have an unfair advantage, just cos people like 'em so much. Hopefully Arnold will do a good job. The whole thing has been a complete circus.

Anne

pilotguy · 10-08-2003, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AgtSkye

Famous people may seem cool to run for office, but I don't like the idea of them selling their souls to the political process. I don't have any respect for politicians. And celebrities probably have an unfair advantage, just cos people like 'em so much. Hopefully Arnold will do a good job. The whole thing has been a complete circus.

Anne

Do you know what surprised me about that California Governor's race? (And I'm SERIOUS about this)....

With all of the assorted characters who were running (from Gary Coleman to that bimbo porn star), I just can't believe that Danny "Partridge Family" Bonaduce didn't enter the race!

That guy is so hungry for cheap publicity and attention, I would think that that political sideshow would have been a NATURAL for him to dive into!

Oh well, maybe he'll run against Hillary in the 2008 Presidential race....Oooh, I don't even want to THINK about THAT one!

Chocoholic · 10-08-2003, 08:35 AM

I know I'm going off-topic here, but I always thought that if the governor either died or left office before their term was up, that the lieutenant governor automatically took over. How come that didn't happen in California?

pilotguy · 10-08-2003, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snoopy
I know I'm going off-topic here, but I always thought that if the governor either died or left office before their term was up, that the lieutenant governor automatically took over. How come that didn't happen in California?

Because the Lieutenant Governor is Bud Bronsky....and everybody KNOWS that he's not as good as the ORIGINAL governor!

(So much for serious political discussion!)

AngeFaitore · 10-08-2003, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pilotguy
Because the Lieutenant Governor is Bud Bronsky....and everybody KNOWS that he's not as good as the ORIGINAL governor!

(So much for serious political discussion!)

Lowell Mather for President!!!
No, wait, you know what, I really wonder how Thomas Haden Church would
fare in the political world.
Probibly another Bush (both are from Texas, the obviously Republican state!).

Chocoholic · 10-08-2003, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pilotguy
Because the Lieutenant Governor is Bud Bronsky....and everybody KNOWS that he's not as good as the ORIGINAL governor!

(So much for serious political discussion!)

Oh, Pilotguy, you "quack" me up!

Seriously though, I thought the Constitution stated that if a President or governor couldn't perform his or her duties that the next person in command took office.

AgtSkye · 10-09-2003, 01:58 AM

That's a good point Snoopy. I don't know why they did it this way. I know next to nothing about politics tho. The guy who made the whole thing possible tho was a Republican. I think they were just trying whatever they could to get a Dem out of office or something...altho everyone was angry at the governor. Same thing a few years ago with President Clinton. The way I see it there's greater reason to get rid of Bush than there was for Clinton, but anyway...

I met this guy at work who worked at one of the polling places. He told me that adult film actress was the one with the fewest votes, and she got 178 or something like that.

Yeah, Pilotguy I hadn't thought of Danny Bonaduce running before you mentioned it, but yeah it IS surprising he didn't <g>.

Anne

wingshock · 10-09-2003, 10:12 AM

FYI, California wrote into their state constitution a long time ago... (I don't remember the year, but it was the 20s or 30s, I think) that elected officials could be recalled.

Not all states have that law... I'm not sure which states do or don't... I'm in Florida and I don't think we have it. So anyhow, it's in their law but it's never been done before now. I guess nobody ever disliked a politician enough to actually get it done. I bet it won't happen again for a long time.

It's totally different from removing someone from office because of illegal behavior (like trying to get Clinton out of office via impeachment)... any elected official can be impeached... but the "recall" is a special thing - you can be fired just for doing a bad job.

Love,

Wing<><

wingshock · 10-09-2003, 10:42 AM

Ah, here we go... from the Berkeley Law School...

The recall mechanism for statewide officers and legislators in California first appeared as a constitutional amendment in 1911, one of several reform measures put in place by the Progressive administration of Governor Hiram Johnson.

Recalls have often been attempted in California against statewide elected officials and legislators. All governors in the last 30 years have faced some level of recall attempt. In 2003 Governor Gray Davis became the first statewide official to face a recall election. Recall efforts against state legislators have reached the voting stage, and four were actually recalled. Senator Marshall Black (R-Santa Clara County) was recalled in 1913, followed by Senator Edwin Grant (D-San Franisco) in 1914, and by Assembly members Paul Horcher (R-Los Angeles County) and Doris Allen (R-Orange County) in 1995. There have been many successful recall attempts at the local government level in California.

Love,

Wing<><

Chocoholic · 10-09-2003, 12:19 PM

Thanks for the info, Wingshock.

10-08-2003, 03:00 AM	#1
pilotguy Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 09, 2003 Posts: 1,305	"Wings" Goes To Washington With Arnold S. being elected governor of California, it really opens the door for other celebrities to hold public office as well.... Who knows? Maybe in a few years Tim Daly will be elected President...and Steven Weber could be his V.P.....although I'm not sure how well that would work.... I can see it now...Tim is standing at the podium, seriously delivering his State-of-the-Union speech.... ....and Steven is standing behind him, holding two of his fingers behind Tim's head, giving him a set of "devil horns"!

10-08-2003, 04:28 AM	#2
AgtSkye Jedi knightess Frequent Poster Join Date: May 04, 2003 Location: a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away Posts: 185	I was angry tonight cos for a minute it seemed election coverage was going to postpone my fave music artist being on the Tonight Show, but luckily it was quick. And yes it is Ahnold...lol. Famous people may seem cool to run for office, but I don't like the idea of them selling their souls to the political process. I don't have any respect for politicians. And celebrities probably have an unfair advantage, just cos people like 'em so much. Hopefully Arnold will do a good job. The whole thing has been a complete circus. Anne
	__________________ En það besta sem Guð hefur skapað er nýr dagur But the best thing God has created is a new day ~ Sigur Rós

10-09-2003, 10:12 AM	#9
wingshock Way, Truth, Life <>< Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 30, 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 308	FYI, California wrote into their state constitution a long time ago... (I don't remember the year, but it was the 20s or 30s, I think) that elected officials could be recalled. Not all states have that law... I'm not sure which states do or don't... I'm in Florida and I don't think we have it. So anyhow, it's in their law but it's never been done before now. I guess nobody ever disliked a politician enough to actually get it done. I bet it won't happen again for a long time. It's totally different from removing someone from office because of illegal behavior (like trying to get Clinton out of office via impeachment)... any elected official can be impeached... but the "recall" is a special thing - you can be fired just for doing a bad job. Love, Wing<><
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10-08-2003, 08:35 AM	#4
Chocoholic Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 11,235	I know I'm going off-topic here, but I always thought that if the governor either died or left office before their term was up, that the lieutenant governor automatically took over. How come that didn't happen in California?

10-09-2003, 01:58 AM	#8
AgtSkye Jedi knightess Frequent Poster Join Date: May 04, 2003 Location: a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away Posts: 185	That's a good point Snoopy. I don't know why they did it this way. I know next to nothing about politics tho. The guy who made the whole thing possible tho was a Republican. I think they were just trying whatever they could to get a Dem out of office or something...altho everyone was angry at the governor. Same thing a few years ago with President Clinton. The way I see it there's greater reason to get rid of Bush than there was for Clinton, but anyway... I met this guy at work who worked at one of the polling places. He told me that adult film actress was the one with the fewest votes, and she got 178 or something like that. Yeah, Pilotguy I hadn't thought of Danny Bonaduce running before you mentioned it, but yeah it IS surprising he didn't <g>. Anne

10-09-2003, 10:42 AM	#10
wingshock Way, Truth, Life <>< Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 30, 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 308	Ah, here we go... from the Berkeley Law School... The recall mechanism for statewide officers and legislators in California first appeared as a constitutional amendment in 1911, one of several reform measures put in place by the Progressive administration of Governor Hiram Johnson. Recalls have often been attempted in California against statewide elected officials and legislators. All governors in the last 30 years have faced some level of recall attempt. In 2003 Governor Gray Davis became the first statewide official to face a recall election. Recall efforts against state legislators have reached the voting stage, and four were actually recalled. Senator Marshall Black (R-Santa Clara County) was recalled in 1913, followed by Senator Edwin Grant (D-San Franisco) in 1914, and by Assembly members Paul Horcher (R-Los Angeles County) and Doris Allen (R-Orange County) in 1995. There have been many successful recall attempts at the local government level in California. Love, Wing<><

10-09-2003, 12:19 PM	#11
Chocoholic Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 11,235	Thanks for the info, Wingshock.