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Brian Damage · 10-03-2003, 10:32 AM

What if some of the original Seinfeld ideas were not scrapped would it still be successful? For instance, what if the show was still called the Seinfeld Chronicles? or What if they would've kept Jerry's monolouge and prologue in the show? What else?....

TheMaestro · 10-03-2003, 12:05 PM

What if Susan would not have died?

wickthayer · 10-03-2003, 02:16 PM

I dont think the name change would have made much of a difference. We would refer to it as Seinfeld as shorthand. Same with the standup routine, although Jerry would have had to have kept coming up with fresh material, I think he used his whole act on the shows. Susan alive and married would have been difficult to deal with, George could not be George if he was married.

What if George or Kramer left the show after the third season for contract or other reasons, would it have been a hit still?

Brian Damage · 10-03-2003, 02:34 PM

What if they used the original Frank and Morty.

Maestro · 10-03-2003, 03:31 PM

Title change: no big- agree w/ previous.

Monologs: I hated to see them diminish.
I'd think those were lessened/dumped by public pressure and the ratings watchers. We SeinNerds know Jer's whole show was based on his act, but the Nielson public probably demanded more of a "sitcom" format. The show got less chronicly & less "about nothing" as the years went on. It got more out there, crazy characters, forced buzz words & the whole expected sitcom thang... "not that there was anything wrong with that."

Waxing Susan: gad... what took so long (even though I think George could play it married, his schtick could remain close to same & I rarely disagree w/ wyck

)

Kramer leaving: ouch, that would prob hurt.
I think the 4 had one of "those chemistrys" that would be hard to recreate, the whole right time/right place thing. I know [real] Jer had it goin' on anyway right before the show launched, that 4 person chemistry made it happen as a sitcom.

Orig Frank & not Jerry Stiller: also bad, but the not a deal breaker. The show would have rolled on, but with Jerry Stiller developing the "Frank" [+ the Frank & Estelle interplay] character, it fills out the show, giving it those extra layers of quality. Stiller's "Frank" & Estelle Harris' "Estelle" were a great element of the show.

Orig Morty: Many character actors could pull it off. We never would have noticed.
btw: the orig "Morty," actor Phil Bruns was good, I think he would have made a great Jer dad, maybe better than Barney Martin.
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What if The Finale(s) #179/180 were just another epi, & not the big bizarro world production they were?

Maestro · 10-03-2003, 03:31 PM

... gosh... what a SeinRambler...

sinatrastar · 10-03-2003, 04:10 PM

That was really a SeinSchpiel there Maestro

, but interesting reading. Without Kramer/George I think Newman would have been more involved maybe even becoming closer with Jerry and hanging out with the gang?

The marriage would have been a tough sell in terms of getting George out of the house everyday to hang out with the others. And if Susan was so rich why was she in that little apartment with George?

Seinfeld Chronicles sounds like the Martian Chronicles which used to scare the hell out of me (the movie) and I therefore dont like that name.

Brian Damage · 10-03-2003, 04:14 PM

What if Elaine was never written on to the show?

sinatrastar · 10-03-2003, 09:25 PM

One of the guys would have needed a steady love interest, or some other female involved.

What if Larry David had never left?

WeMissTripper · 10-03-2003, 11:00 PM

What if Jerry and George moved in together?

Brian Damage · 10-04-2003, 11:02 AM

What if Claire the waitress the the pilot episode became a regular character?

sinatrastar · 10-04-2003, 12:42 PM

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What if Claire the waitress the the pilot episode became a regular character?

The show would have been more boring, they made the right decision to drop her.

What if Elaine would have been played by Bea Arthur?

Brian Damage · 10-04-2003, 01:22 PM

Lol Bea Arthur and David Puddy....A match made in heaven.

sinatrastar · 10-04-2003, 02:21 PM

What if David Alexander played Kramer (with a funky hair hat/wig) and Michael Richards played George?

Brian Damage · 10-04-2003, 02:32 PM

What if Elaine and Jerry never broke up?

10-03-2003, 10:32 AM	#1
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	What if? What if some of the original Seinfeld ideas were not scrapped would it still be successful? For instance, what if the show was still called the Seinfeld Chronicles? or What if they would've kept Jerry's monolouge and prologue in the show? What else?....

10-03-2003, 12:05 PM	#2
TheMaestro Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 25, 2003 Posts: 134	What if Susan would not have died?

10-03-2003, 02:16 PM	#3
wickthayer Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 03, 2003 Posts: 562	I dont think the name change would have made much of a difference. We would refer to it as Seinfeld as shorthand. Same with the standup routine, although Jerry would have had to have kept coming up with fresh material, I think he used his whole act on the shows. Susan alive and married would have been difficult to deal with, George could not be George if he was married. What if George or Kramer left the show after the third season for contract or other reasons, would it have been a hit still?

10-03-2003, 02:34 PM	#4
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	What if they used the original Frank and Morty.

10-03-2003, 03:31 PM	#5
Maestro Hipster Dufus Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Below the equator Posts: 2,905	Title change: no big- agree w/ previous. Monologs: I hated to see them diminish. I'd think those were lessened/dumped by public pressure and the ratings watchers. We SeinNerds know Jer's whole show was based on his act, but the Nielson public probably demanded more of a "sitcom" format. The show got less chronicly & less "about nothing" as the years went on. It got more out there, crazy characters, forced buzz words & the whole expected sitcom thang... "not that there was anything wrong with that." Waxing Susan: gad... what took so long (even though I think George could play it married, his schtick could remain close to same & I rarely disagree w/ wyck ) Kramer leaving: ouch, that would prob hurt. I think the 4 had one of "those chemistrys" that would be hard to recreate, the whole right time/right place thing. I know [real] Jer had it goin' on anyway right before the show launched, that 4 person chemistry made it happen as a sitcom. Orig Frank & not Jerry Stiller: also bad, but the not a deal breaker. The show would have rolled on, but with Jerry Stiller developing the "Frank" [+ the Frank & Estelle interplay] character, it fills out the show, giving it those extra layers of quality. Stiller's "Frank" & Estelle Harris' "Estelle" were a great element of the show. Orig Morty: Many character actors could pull it off. We never would have noticed. btw: the orig "Morty," actor Phil Bruns was good, I think he would have made a great Jer dad, maybe better than Barney Martin. === What if The Finale(s) #179/180 were just another epi, & not the big bizarro world production they were?

10-03-2003, 04:10 PM	#7
sinatrastar Indian Summer Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 22, 2003 Location: 78 W 86th St. Apt 3E Posts: 6,027	That was really a SeinSchpiel there Maestro , but interesting reading. Without Kramer/George I think Newman would have been more involved maybe even becoming closer with Jerry and hanging out with the gang? The marriage would have been a tough sell in terms of getting George out of the house everyday to hang out with the others. And if Susan was so rich why was she in that little apartment with George? Seinfeld Chronicles sounds like the Martian Chronicles which used to scare the hell out of me (the movie) and I therefore dont like that name.

10-03-2003, 04:14 PM	#8
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	What if Elaine was never written on to the show?

10-03-2003, 09:25 PM	#9
sinatrastar Indian Summer Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 22, 2003 Location: 78 W 86th St. Apt 3E Posts: 6,027	One of the guys would have needed a steady love interest, or some other female involved. What if Larry David had never left?

10-03-2003, 11:00 PM	#10
WeMissTripper Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 13, 2003 Posts: 123	What if Jerry and George moved in together?

10-04-2003, 11:02 AM	#11
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	What if Claire the waitress the the pilot episode became a regular character?

10-04-2003, 01:22 PM	#13
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Lol Bea Arthur and David Puddy....A match made in heaven.

10-04-2003, 02:21 PM	#14
sinatrastar Indian Summer Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 22, 2003 Location: 78 W 86th St. Apt 3E Posts: 6,027	What if David Alexander played Kramer (with a funky hair hat/wig) and Michael Richards played George?

10-04-2003, 02:32 PM	#15
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	What if Elaine and Jerry never broke up?