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LucyFan · 09-27-2003, 10:56 PM

Hey guys,

I was just wondering earlier today . . . would you consider Here's Lucy a continuation of The Lucy Show since it continued the life of the Lucy character? Or would you not consider it as a continuation since each show had different settings with somewhat different characters? Which one do you choose and why? Please feel to voice your opinion about this. Don't be afraid.

I Love Carol Burnett! · 09-28-2003, 08:05 AM

No, I do'nt think Here's Lucy was continuation of The Lucy Show because in The Lucy Show Lucy was Lucille Carmical. Just like The Lucy Show was not continuation of I Love Lucy. I loved them all though.

NCVARick · 09-28-2003, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by LucyFan
Hey guys,

I was just wondering earlier today . . . would you consider Here's Lucy a continuation of The Lucy Show since it continued the life of the Lucy character? Or would you not consider it as a continuation since each show had different settings with somewhat different characters? Which one do you choose and why? Please feel to voice your opinion about this. Don't be afraid.

Lucy Carmichael and Lucy Carter looked and behaved exactly alike, they both lived in Los Angeles, they were both widows, they both had a daughter and a son, they both worked as a secretary for a man who yelled a lot and looked exactly like Gale Gordon, they both had an unusual number of encounters with Hollywood celebrities, they both had a friend named Mary Jane Lewis who looked exactly like Mary Jane Croft, they both had an old friend named Vivian who looked exactly like Vivian Vance, they were both from Jamestown, New York, and, depending on the episode you reference, they both had the maiden name McGillicuddy. So yes, I would say "Here's Lucy" was a continuation of "The Lucy Show" (no two shows in the history of television have as much in common as those two series).

PracTz · 09-28-2003, 07:16 PM

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Lucy Carmichael and Lucy Carter looked and behaved exactly alike, they both lived in Los Angeles, they were both widows, they both had a daughter and a son, they both worked as a secretary for a man who yelled a lot and looked exactly like Gale Gordon, they both had an unusual number of encounters with Hollywood celebrities, they both had a friend named Mary Jane Lewis who looked exactly like Mary Jane Croft, they both had an old friend named Vivian who looked exactly like Vivian Vance, they were both from Jamestown, New York, and, depending on the episode you reference, they both had the maiden name McGillicuddy. So yes, I would say "Here's Lucy" was a continuation of "The Lucy Show" (no two shows in the history of television have as much in common as those two series).

I've always just considered that Mary Jane Lewis and Vivian simply got into some kind of dimensional warp that gave them total anmesia re Lucy Carmichael and Mr. Mooney and just crossed over to the Carter Zone then went on from there without missing a beat!

That Other Fan · 09-29-2003, 05:12 PM

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I've always just considered that Mary Jane Lewis and Vivian simply got into some kind of dimensional warp that gave them total anmesia re Lucy Carmichael and Mr. Mooney and just crossed over to the Carter Zone then went on from there without missing a beat!

Hey, it could happen...

There are people in this world with similar names and appearances.

There could have been a Lucy Carmichael and a Lucy Carter co-existing in LA, while a Lucy Ricardo, was still giving Ricky hell in Connecticut! LOL

Amber8611 · 09-29-2003, 06:00 PM

Lucy Carmichael could have even met Lucy Carter. Remember in "Lucy the Babysitter" she did go to the Unique Employment Agency to find a job. The secretary then was a lady that looked awfully similar to the one that gave Lucy Ricardo ballet lessons though. LOL!

I don't really think Here's Lucy was a continuation of The Lucy Show. They did have a lot in common, but they were different shows, with different characters and a few different actors.

marvin g · 09-29-2003, 09:35 PM

No, they weren't the same. They probably got tired of the format and changed it like thay did with The Lucy Show. At first she lived in Danville in a big house with her two kids and Viv's son. Then she's in L.A in a apartment working for Mooney and no mention of her kids (that I can remember)!

NCVARick · 10-01-2003, 12:55 AM

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No, they weren't the same. They probably got tired of the format and changed it like thay did with The Lucy Show. At first she lived in Danville in a big house with her two kids and Viv's son. Then she's in L.A in a apartment working for Mooney and no mention of her kids (that I can remember)!

There are far more similarities between the '65-'68 Lucy Show and Here's Lucy than differences. The only differences I can think of are that Lucy had a different last name, her boss was now related to her and had a new name and wore straight ties instead of bow ties, her kids had new names and were played by different actors, her place of employment changed, and her home address changed. Everything else was the same. If the '65-'68 Lucy Show and Here's Lucy are different shows based on those few differences, then the '62-'65 Lucy Show and the '65-'68 Lucy Show are different shows, because there are even more differences when you compare those formats. Actually, the '65-'68 Lucy Show has more in common with Here's Lucy than it does with the '62-'65 Lucy Show.

That Other Fan · 10-01-2003, 01:01 AM

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.If the '65-'68 Lucy Show and Here's Lucy are different shows based on those few differences, then the '62-'65 Lucy Show and the '65-'68 Lucy Show are different shows, because there are even more differences when you compare those formats. Actually, the '65-'68 Lucy Show has more in common with Here's Lucy than it does with the '62-'65 Lucy Show.

"In english...In english"

J/K

SPLAIN · 10-01-2003, 10:57 AM

That's why i never tangle with the real pros, they overanalyze so much! But it's still fun to read! LOL

bb25 · 10-01-2003, 02:53 PM

Oh, absolutely it's a continuation! I have read so many places that HL was just a slightly format-changed continuation of TLS, and I can't agree more. I have even seen some sources that say "The Lucy Show" ran from 1962-74. The way I see it, all the characters had slightly different names (except Gale Gordon), and the Lucy character had different kids and her lifestyle was slightly different of the more "single" Lucy Carmichael. It's also interesting to note that at Universal Studios Hollywood, at the Lucy exhibit, they have several HL scripts to view. One was the HL episode of "Lucy and the Great Airport Chase", and the cover of the script had The Lucy Show on it! Considering that this is a later first season ep, the production company still may have just called this The Lucy Show for a while...anyway, my answer is yes!

623e68thst · 11-09-2003, 04:17 PM

I remember reading somewhere that under the terms of the sale of Desilu, Lucy couldn't continue in "The Lucy Show" format.

"Here's Lucy" was created so that Lucy could continue in a weekly series.

I don't know how much truth there is to that, though.

SPLAIN · 11-10-2003, 01:55 PM

Of course it's true, she sold Desilu, so her show and format went with it, so she just created a similar one and kept going.

bb25 · 11-11-2003, 12:02 AM

She sold Desilu before TLS even ended. She just wanted to use her own production company (Lucille Ball Productions) to produce her own show. The show was still filmed at the same lot, until it moved to Universal in the early 70s...

SPLAIN · 11-11-2003, 02:50 PM

She HAD to change the format because Gulf and Western bought it along with Desilu, i agree that one season overlapped, the one in '67, but i guess she worked for them as she had sold them The Lucy show while still owning Desilu. Yours mine and ours was also filmed in '67 and released in '68 but she still got a quarter of that because the deal was from before the sale. Some people will always say that Lucy was the same character from 1951 to 1973, because the daffy Lucy stayed the same even though her names changed.

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09-27-2003, 10:56 PM	#1
LucyFan Still Loving Lucy! Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 23, 2001 Location: In the Wonderful World of Lucy! Posts: 8,198	"Here's Lucy": Continuation of "The Lucy Show"? Hey guys, I was just wondering earlier today . . . would you consider Here's Lucy a continuation of The Lucy Show since it continued the life of the Lucy character? Or would you not consider it as a continuation since each show had different settings with somewhat different characters? Which one do you choose and why? Please feel to voice your opinion about this. Don't be afraid.

09-28-2003, 08:05 AM	#2
I Love Carol Burnett! My Queen Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 20, 2003 Location: Wishing I was in CA with Carol Burnett Posts: 5,441	No, I do'nt think Here's Lucy was continuation of The Lucy Show because in The Lucy Show Lucy was Lucille Carmical. Just like The Lucy Show was not continuation of I Love Lucy. I loved them all though. Attached Images

09-29-2003, 06:00 PM	#6
Amber8611 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 21, 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 188	Lucy Carmichael could have even met Lucy Carter. Remember in "Lucy the Babysitter" she did go to the Unique Employment Agency to find a job. The secretary then was a lady that looked awfully similar to the one that gave Lucy Ricardo ballet lessons though. LOL! I don't really think Here's Lucy was a continuation of The Lucy Show. They did have a lot in common, but they were different shows, with different characters and a few different actors.

09-29-2003, 09:35 PM	#7
marvin g Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 30, 2003 Location: Chicago,IL Posts: 1,217	No, they weren't the same. They probably got tired of the format and changed it like thay did with The Lucy Show. At first she lived in Danville in a big house with her two kids and Viv's son. Then she's in L.A in a apartment working for Mooney and no mention of her kids (that I can remember)!

10-01-2003, 10:57 AM	#10
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	That's why i never tangle with the real pros, they overanalyze so much! But it's still fun to read! LOL

10-01-2003, 02:53 PM	#11
bb25 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Posts: 784	Oh, absolutely it's a continuation! I have read so many places that HL was just a slightly format-changed continuation of TLS, and I can't agree more. I have even seen some sources that say "The Lucy Show" ran from 1962-74. The way I see it, all the characters had slightly different names (except Gale Gordon), and the Lucy character had different kids and her lifestyle was slightly different of the more "single" Lucy Carmichael. It's also interesting to note that at Universal Studios Hollywood, at the Lucy exhibit, they have several HL scripts to view. One was the HL episode of "Lucy and the Great Airport Chase", and the cover of the script had The Lucy Show on it! Considering that this is a later first season ep, the production company still may have just called this The Lucy Show for a while...anyway, my answer is yes!

11-09-2003, 04:17 PM	#12
623e68thst Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 24, 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 28	I remember reading somewhere that under the terms of the sale of Desilu, Lucy couldn't continue in "The Lucy Show" format. "Here's Lucy" was created so that Lucy could continue in a weekly series. I don't know how much truth there is to that, though.

11-10-2003, 01:55 PM	#13
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Of course it's true, she sold Desilu, so her show and format went with it, so she just created a similar one and kept going.

11-11-2003, 12:02 AM	#14
bb25 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Posts: 784	She sold Desilu before TLS even ended. She just wanted to use her own production company (Lucille Ball Productions) to produce her own show. The show was still filmed at the same lot, until it moved to Universal in the early 70s...

11-11-2003, 02:50 PM	#15
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	She HAD to change the format because Gulf and Western bought it along with Desilu, i agree that one season overlapped, the one in '67, but i guess she worked for them as she had sold them The Lucy show while still owning Desilu. Yours mine and ours was also filmed in '67 and released in '68 but she still got a quarter of that because the deal was from before the sale. Some people will always say that Lucy was the same character from 1951 to 1973, because the daffy Lucy stayed the same even though her names changed.