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Adamantium · 09-21-2003, 09:10 PM

It's a shame that after all the laughter Freddie gave us, he will always be mainly remembered for his tragic ending. Now with the sudden death of John Ritter, the news seems to be looking into the past. Some people I know, didn't even know Freddie Prinze, Jr's dad was on a TV show. And this is how they find out about him. I just wish Freddie could have found another way to deal with his problems rather than to end his life. I wonder if his suicide is the main reason that CATM has not been rerun for like over twenty years.

Plus, I've been seeing Jack Albertson on Mister Ed. The show was from 1961. I'm not sure when Freddie was born, but it was kind of weird seeing Jack, knowing that somewhere at the time of filming, Freddie Prinze was out there as a kid.

MariposaLKB · 09-22-2003, 07:12 AM

...next year--kinda blows your mind, don't it?

He was born in 1954, so he was 7 years old when Jack was appearing on "Mr. Ed". Wonder if he watched that....

Joy · 09-22-2003, 10:49 AM

yeah what a thought, to think that he could have watched Jack on TV as a kid never thinking that one day they would be on one of america's top shows, and become such good friends!

Mr. Television · 09-22-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by TVAdam
It's a shame that after all the laughter Freddie gave us, he will always be mainly remembered for his tragic ending. Now with the sudden death of John Ritter, the news seems to be looking into the past. Some people I know, didn't even know Freddie Prinze, Jr's dad was on a TV show. And this is how they find out about him. I just wish Freddie could have found another way to deal with his problems rather than to end his life. I wonder if his suicide is the main reason that CATM has not been rerun for like over twenty years.

Plus, I've been seeing Jack Albertson on Mister Ed. The show was from 1961. I'm not sure when Freddie was born, but it was kind of weird seeing Jack, knowing that somewhere at the time of filming, Freddie Prinze was out there as a kid.

I have no idea why CATM hasn't been rerun much but thats the reason alot of younger people don't know about Freddie Prinze.

Joy · 09-22-2003, 11:27 AM

yes and unfortunately what they are learning about him is the way he died not the talent he had or the fact that he opened the door for many other comedians

Luckymama58 · 09-22-2003, 05:54 PM

When I talk to Freddie (yes I am crazy, but I think sometimes he does talk to me) this is the thing he is the saddest about, only being remembered for how he died, not how he lived. I remember in the E! special how he told David Brenner that he wanted to be remembered like James Dean or Marilyn Monroe. I think he is a legend in his time, look how fast he was able to achieve stardom. I think it is a shame he didn't stick around long enough to really enjoy it. He experienced all the heartaches of the business, and never had the chance to get past that and experience the joys that come from paying your dues first.
I think Freddie is happy that we have taken up his cause and let people know that he was a great talent, not just "that guy who shot himself" as most people say to me when they see my pictures of him on my wall.
Rest in peace, angel. We will always remember you for who you are..... a most beautiful, talented, and caring human being.

victorianscribe · 09-23-2003, 09:37 AM

I will believe until the day I die that Freddie's death was accidental. It's my greatest hope that someday he'll receive the appreciation due him for his talent ... not the tragic way he left us.

Joy · 09-23-2003, 09:48 AM

I agree 100% It's true he was under the influence of drugs, (perscribed) that he took them himself but had he had his wits about him and not under their influence he never would have done that, I believe he really wanted help and it was just a cry for help.

victorianscribe · 09-23-2003, 10:13 AM

Exactly! His mind and judgement were clouded, with tragic results.

I'm so glad to finally "meet" people who feel the same way I do about this ... I've gotten so tired of hearing/seeing Freddie listed under "Famous Suicides", or similiar lists. People should just look at the facts!

tylersmistress2002 · 09-23-2003, 10:45 AM

I dont believe that they will ever REALLY know, but I do believe that it was an accident. I know Freddie had a history of threatening of doing this, which is OBVIOUSLY a cry for help.
It DOES tick me off that the press ALMOST always says "The comedian commited suicide."

I CANT TELL YOU HOW MAD THAT MAKES ME. So, ok, say he shot himself, that doesnt say it is ON PURPOSE....

Sorry, I had to let off steam.

victorianscribe · 09-23-2003, 11:43 AM

That's okay ... we all have to let off steam once in a while.

Cheryl Harrell · 09-23-2003, 04:07 PM

I think his suicide was an accidental suicide. I think the pills caused him to want to commit suicide at a time when he was so down, sad & depressed. It is sooo sad what happend to him. Reading some of the stuff on here makes me want to cry but I can't being in the library due to the phone lines being out. I'll probably end up digging out the hankies when I'm in the car...

Prince · 09-23-2003, 06:51 PM

I agree with all of you. I also believe his death was an accident. If he wouldn't have been under the influence..his thoughts would have been clearer, focused on his son instead of the inner pain. Freddie Prinze suffered from depression and I think had been crying out for help months before his death. Too bad those around him didn't continue to urge him to seek the help he needed instead of worrying how counseling might have affected his career. I will always remember Freddie Prinze as a very gifted actor, dancer, singer and a man with an enormous heart and a sense of decency that is not always easily attained.

Luckymama58 · 09-23-2003, 07:03 PM

I think if Freddie was here in front of us today talking about this, I think he would tell us the two people he has the most regrets disappointing with his "decision" as it stated in his last note, was his mother and his son. He loved both of them very much and if he had been in his right mind at the time, he wouldn't have gone through with it, if not for himself, then for those two people.

hue_mee · 09-23-2003, 09:22 PM

I believe it was an accident and I know Freddie wanted to be remembered but not in that way. ( a suicide) We now have video and other resources to remember Freddie and keeping the laughter of his life in a positive way. I believe we are suceeding in that way and I can believe Freddie is happy with what we are doing to remember him. I watched 8 simple rules tonight and believe me I was thrilled to see the show start a new season having though regret the fact that John is only in the first three episodes. katie was kind enough to pay tribute to him in the beginning of the show. I wish though that the producers at CATM would of said something or had Jack pay tribute to Freddie when Freddie's tradgic accident accord. Yes we all know of the scene Jack had with the little boy. But I kinda wished they would of done a more fitting way of remembering Freddie.

09-21-2003, 09:10 PM	#1
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,830	It's a Shame It's a shame that after all the laughter Freddie gave us, he will always be mainly remembered for his tragic ending. Now with the sudden death of John Ritter, the news seems to be looking into the past. Some people I know, didn't even know Freddie Prinze, Jr's dad was on a TV show. And this is how they find out about him. I just wish Freddie could have found another way to deal with his problems rather than to end his life. I wonder if his suicide is the main reason that CATM has not been rerun for like over twenty years. Plus, I've been seeing Jack Albertson on Mister Ed. The show was from 1961. I'm not sure when Freddie was born, but it was kind of weird seeing Jack, knowing that somewhere at the time of filming, Freddie Prinze was out there as a kid.

09-22-2003, 07:12 AM	#2
MariposaLKB She flies alone Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: The great unknown Posts: 3,436	Freddie would have been 50.... ...next year--kinda blows your mind, don't it? He was born in 1954, so he was 7 years old when Jack was appearing on "Mr. Ed". Wonder if he watched that....
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09-22-2003, 10:49 AM	#3
Joy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2001 Location: In Mn lovin my DVD and the Prinze of comedy!!! Posts: 3,247	yeah what a thought, to think that he could have watched Jack on TV as a kid never thinking that one day they would be on one of america's top shows, and become such good friends!
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09-22-2003, 05:54 PM	#6
Luckymama58 Math Geeks Unite! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2001 Location: In my rock and roll fantasy Posts: 2,553	AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I talk to Freddie (yes I am crazy, but I think sometimes he does talk to me) this is the thing he is the saddest about, only being remembered for how he died, not how he lived. I remember in the E! special how he told David Brenner that he wanted to be remembered like James Dean or Marilyn Monroe. I think he is a legend in his time, look how fast he was able to achieve stardom. I think it is a shame he didn't stick around long enough to really enjoy it. He experienced all the heartaches of the business, and never had the chance to get past that and experience the joys that come from paying your dues first. I think Freddie is happy that we have taken up his cause and let people know that he was a great talent, not just "that guy who shot himself" as most people say to me when they see my pictures of him on my wall. Rest in peace, angel. We will always remember you for who you are..... a most beautiful, talented, and caring human being.
	__________________ We All Use Math Every Day! Everything is Numb3rs! Capt. Jack: Drink up, me hardies, Yo Ho! I reject your reality and substitute my own!-Adam Savage, Mythbuster A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds... With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. -Ralph Waldo Emerson RIP Freddie Prinze 1954-1977 You have your star now.

09-23-2003, 10:45 AM	#10
tylersmistress2002 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 21, 2001 Location: Providence, RI USA Posts: 493	suicide or accident? I dont believe that they will ever REALLY know, but I do believe that it was an accident. I know Freddie had a history of threatening of doing this, which is OBVIOUSLY a cry for help. It DOES tick me off that the press ALMOST always says "The comedian commited suicide." I CANT TELL YOU HOW MAD THAT MAKES ME. So, ok, say he shot himself, that doesnt say it is ON PURPOSE.... Sorry, I had to let off steam.
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09-22-2003, 11:27 AM	#5
Joy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2001 Location: In Mn lovin my DVD and the Prinze of comedy!!! Posts: 3,247	yes and unfortunately what they are learning about him is the way he died not the talent he had or the fact that he opened the door for many other comedians

09-23-2003, 09:37 AM	#7
victorianscribe Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 17, 2003 Posts: 158	I will believe until the day I die that Freddie's death was accidental. It's my greatest hope that someday he'll receive the appreciation due him for his talent ... not the tragic way he left us.

09-23-2003, 09:48 AM	#8
Joy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2001 Location: In Mn lovin my DVD and the Prinze of comedy!!! Posts: 3,247	I agree 100% It's true he was under the influence of drugs, (perscribed) that he took them himself but had he had his wits about him and not under their influence he never would have done that, I believe he really wanted help and it was just a cry for help.

09-23-2003, 10:13 AM	#9
victorianscribe Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 17, 2003 Posts: 158	Exactly! His mind and judgement were clouded, with tragic results. I'm so glad to finally "meet" people who feel the same way I do about this ... I've gotten so tired of hearing/seeing Freddie listed under "Famous Suicides", or similiar lists. People should just look at the facts!

09-23-2003, 11:43 AM	#11
victorianscribe Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 17, 2003 Posts: 158	That's okay ... we all have to let off steam once in a while.

09-23-2003, 04:07 PM	#12
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	I think his suicide was an accidental suicide. I think the pills caused him to want to commit suicide at a time when he was so down, sad & depressed. It is sooo sad what happend to him. Reading some of the stuff on here makes me want to cry but I can't being in the library due to the phone lines being out. I'll probably end up digging out the hankies when I'm in the car...
	__________________ RIP darling Mike. I love you forever... You are with Freddie Prinze & Jesus now. 1951-2009 "Make it your way, who can beat the Lord, the Son of God. Dear Lord, help me be strong where I am weak, if it be your will"-- The Late Freddie Prinze Sr

09-23-2003, 06:51 PM	#13
Prince Prince of Peace Senior Member Join Date: Jan 26, 2001 Posts: 1,137	Freddie's death I agree with all of you. I also believe his death was an accident. If he wouldn't have been under the influence..his thoughts would have been clearer, focused on his son instead of the inner pain. Freddie Prinze suffered from depression and I think had been crying out for help months before his death. Too bad those around him didn't continue to urge him to seek the help he needed instead of worrying how counseling might have affected his career. I will always remember Freddie Prinze as a very gifted actor, dancer, singer and a man with an enormous heart and a sense of decency that is not always easily attained. Attached Images
	__________________ A friend is faithful, trusting and helpful…someone that realizes your imperfections and stands by you--Freddie Prinze "Come here to me" --- Freddie Prinze "Beautiful, Beautiful, Beautiful...Beautiful Boy" When I watched Freddie Prinze perform...his future was so bright that it burned my eyes. Live simply, Love generously, Care deeply, Speak kindly and Leave the rest to God. "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."

09-23-2003, 07:03 PM	#14
Luckymama58 Math Geeks Unite! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2001 Location: In my rock and roll fantasy Posts: 2,553	MHO I think if Freddie was here in front of us today talking about this, I think he would tell us the two people he has the most regrets disappointing with his "decision" as it stated in his last note, was his mother and his son. He loved both of them very much and if he had been in his right mind at the time, he wouldn't have gone through with it, if not for himself, then for those two people.

09-23-2003, 09:22 PM	#15
hue_mee Remembering Freddie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 28, 2001 Location: Grateful for a voice from our angel's friend Posts: 2,266	I believe it was an accident and I know Freddie wanted to be remembered but not in that way. ( a suicide) We now have video and other resources to remember Freddie and keeping the laughter of his life in a positive way. I believe we are suceeding in that way and I can believe Freddie is happy with what we are doing to remember him. I watched 8 simple rules tonight and believe me I was thrilled to see the show start a new season having though regret the fact that John is only in the first three episodes. katie was kind enough to pay tribute to him in the beginning of the show. I wish though that the producers at CATM would of said something or had Jack pay tribute to Freddie when Freddie's tradgic accident accord. Yes we all know of the scene Jack had with the little boy. But I kinda wished they would of done a more fitting way of remembering Freddie.
	__________________ Freddie Prinze Sr Thank you David Brenner! "...and when he shall die, take him and cut him into little stars, and he shall make the face of heaven so fine that all the earth will be in love with night..."