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Crapple · 09-15-2003, 06:51 PM

Oddly, I've had the first episode of season four on tape since it first aired. It's at the end of some other tape. I had taped the lineup that night because I was going to be out. The tape also has "Growing Pains," "Doogie Howser MD" and, I think, "Anything But Love." I re-watched the season four opener last night and was amazed by a few things:

First, unlike other shows, the entire episode is about the cast changeover and meeting the new kids. I was a little uncomfortable with how they glossed over the old cast members leaving and focused solely on the new kids, until--I think--Darlene said near the end of our show "these were our friends!" But I was still impressed how they dedicated an entire episode to the changeover. Kind of reinforces my belief that "Head Of The Class" was like "Saved By The Bell" with a brain.

I can't help but think that the cast changeover was an attempt by the producers to come up with a younger, hipper, more diversified cast. It almost felt forced. I'm unhappy that had to come at the expense of three cast members. I also think they wanted to increase the sexual tension of the show. I distinctly remember being less interested in the show after the cast changeover, especially after Billy Connolly came in later.

I think I'm going to ask Joher what was behind that cast changeover. If he doesn't mind, I'll share what he has to say with you guys.

realchic1999 · 09-16-2003, 02:52 PM

You have Season 4's first ep? If it's still in good quality, then I'd love to have a copy of it.

Mr. Television · 09-16-2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Crapple
Oddly, I've had the first episode of season four on tape since it first aired. It's at the end of some other tape. I had taped the lineup that night because I was going to be out. The tape also has "Growing Pains," "Doogie Howser MD" and, I think, "Anything But Love." I re-watched the season four opener last night and was amazed by a few things:

First, unlike other shows, the entire episode is about the cast changeover and meeting the new kids. I was a little uncomfortable with how they glossed over the old cast members leaving and focused solely on the new kids, until--I think--Darlene said near the end of our show "these were our friends!" But I was still impressed how they dedicated an entire episode to the changeover. Kind of reinforces my belief that "Head Of The Class" was like "Saved By The Bell" with a brain.

I can't help but think that the cast changeover was an attempt by the producers to come up with a younger, hipper, more diversified cast. It almost felt forced. I'm unhappy that had to come at the expense of three cast members. I also think they wanted to increase the sexual tension of the show. I distinctly remember being less interested in the show after the cast changeover, especially after Billy Connolly came in later.

I think I'm going to ask Joher what was behind that cast changeover. If he doesn't mind, I'll share what he has to say with you guys.

I agree. The first 3 seasons were the best.

realchic1999 · 09-17-2003, 03:09 PM

I was only 8 when that episode first aired, and only remember this (if this is correct):

At the beginning, the remaining original students enter the class, and see the new kids. They're all like, "Where's Maria?" "Where's Janice?" "Where's Jawaharlal?" and Charlie answers them. If that memory was correct, then how come Charlie was the one who knew their whereabouts? Wouldn't the kids know what happened to their own friends?

warsaw dreams · 09-17-2003, 07:37 PM

I'm sure at least Maria would be calling her friends from the class to tell them the news. Oh, well. I'll skim over this little plot hole!

Charmedsclub · 09-19-2003, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by realchic1999
I was only 8 when that episode first aired, and only remember this (if this is correct):

At the beginning, the remaining original students enter the class, and see the new kids. They're all like, "Where's Maria?" "Where's Janice?" "Where's Jawaharlal?" and Charlie answers them. If that memory was correct, then how come Charlie was the one who knew their whereabouts? Wouldn't the kids know what happened to their own friends?

I never saw that episode, but thats a good question. Its like there gone, and oh well

realchic1999 · 09-25-2003, 05:10 PM

Another thing. I think the departing cast should've gotten a special sendoff (I have a feeling they didn't). It sucks that they were brushed off like yesterday's news. At least Tannis got to come back to "graduate."

Classicshowsgurl15 · 06-30-2004, 08:12 PM

I have that episode too. I like it,but what gets me is that Eric suddenly likes Viki and then it is like after this episode Simone and Eric never get back together until the last episode when they decide to get married.

musiclvr14 · 07-26-2004, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Headoftheclassfan
I have that episode too. I like it,but what gets me is that Eric suddenly likes Viki and then it is like after this episode Simone and Eric never get back together until the last episode when they decide to get married.

Hey Headoftheclassfan - hope your still here lol, and welcome to the board. Sorry I didnt respond to your posts earlier but I havent had much internet access lately lol. Anyway I was just curious if you have all the Head of the class episodes on tape or something? Cuz you mentioned you have that one from the 4th season and you were talking about the last episode where Simone and Erik get married, so I was wondering if you have that episode too? I have most of the HOTC episodes, But I'm missing 16 episodes of the whole series and I've been looking all over for those last 2 episodes and some other more rare ones, so I was just curious if you have them? or how many other HOTC episodes do you have and maybe we could trade or soemthing? Anyway let me know thru here or email or PM me or something lol.

ThomasE · 09-22-2004, 09:51 PM

I have been trying to get eps for a while. I would also like that season four premiere and the last episode. I am a four and a half year veteran on the board. I have hundreds of shows, so if possible please help me.

ThomasE
Moderator

warsaw dreams · 10-14-2004, 09:08 AM

Another thing that always bugged me was the way they handled Mr. Moore leaving in the first episode of the 5th season. He left notes for all the students. Mr. Moore strikes me as being a guy who would come in and talk to his class if he was leaving, not leave little notes behind!

Latinoxtc · 12-15-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by realchic1999
I was only 8 when that episode first aired, and only remember this (if this is correct):

At the beginning, the remaining original students enter the class, and see the new kids. They're all like, "Where's Maria?" "Where's Janice?" "Where's Jawaharlal?" and Charlie answers them. If that memory was correct, then how come Charlie was the one who knew their whereabouts? Wouldn't the kids know what happened to their own friends?

I remember that, Charlie said Maria got accepted to some school for the performing arts, Jannice went to Harvard, I think it was. And I cant remember what happened to Jawaharlal?

warsaw dreams · 12-16-2004, 09:49 AM

He had moved to California with his parents.

smileymon · 06-09-2006, 05:25 AM

if i remember correctly, jasper came in and wonder what was going on. the classmates told him that mr. moore accepted the lead in " death of a salesman" play on friday but jasper was absent. then simone gave him his note. so mr. moore did tell the class, sort of speak.

warsaw dreams · 06-09-2006, 01:14 PM

Supposedly, Mr. Moore gave a little note to each of his students. I would have expected more from a great teacher like that.

09-15-2003, 06:51 PM	#1
Crapple About To Erupt Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 14, 2003 Location: Studio 6A Posts: 229	Fourth season opener/cast change Oddly, I've had the first episode of season four on tape since it first aired. It's at the end of some other tape. I had taped the lineup that night because I was going to be out. The tape also has "Growing Pains," "Doogie Howser MD" and, I think, "Anything But Love." I re-watched the season four opener last night and was amazed by a few things: First, unlike other shows, the entire episode is about the cast changeover and meeting the new kids. I was a little uncomfortable with how they glossed over the old cast members leaving and focused solely on the new kids, until--I think--Darlene said near the end of our show "these were our friends!" But I was still impressed how they dedicated an entire episode to the changeover. Kind of reinforces my belief that "Head Of The Class" was like "Saved By The Bell" with a brain. I can't help but think that the cast changeover was an attempt by the producers to come up with a younger, hipper, more diversified cast. It almost felt forced. I'm unhappy that had to come at the expense of three cast members. I also think they wanted to increase the sexual tension of the show. I distinctly remember being less interested in the show after the cast changeover, especially after Billy Connolly came in later. I think I'm going to ask Joher what was behind that cast changeover. If he doesn't mind, I'll share what he has to say with you guys.
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09-16-2003, 02:52 PM	#2
realchic1999 Embrace nothingness! Forum Regular Join Date: May 23, 2001 Posts: 719	You have Season 4's first ep? If it's still in good quality, then I'd love to have a copy of it.
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09-22-2004, 09:51 PM	#10
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	Could I get those eps from the last two seasons? I have been trying to get eps for a while. I would also like that season four premiere and the last episode. I am a four and a half year veteran on the board. I have hundreds of shows, so if possible please help me. ThomasE Moderator

06-09-2006, 05:25 AM	#14
smileymon Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jun 09, 2006 Posts: 1	mr moore leaving w/o explanation if i remember correctly, jasper came in and wonder what was going on. the classmates told him that mr. moore accepted the lead in " death of a salesman" play on friday but jasper was absent. then simone gave him his note. so mr. moore did tell the class, sort of speak.

09-17-2003, 03:09 PM	#4
realchic1999 Embrace nothingness! Forum Regular Join Date: May 23, 2001 Posts: 719	I was only 8 when that episode first aired, and only remember this (if this is correct): At the beginning, the remaining original students enter the class, and see the new kids. They're all like, "Where's Maria?" "Where's Janice?" "Where's Jawaharlal?" and Charlie answers them. If that memory was correct, then how come Charlie was the one who knew their whereabouts? Wouldn't the kids know what happened to their own friends?

09-17-2003, 07:37 PM	#5
warsaw dreams Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2000 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA Posts: 659	I'm sure at least Maria would be calling her friends from the class to tell them the news. Oh, well. I'll skim over this little plot hole!

09-25-2003, 05:10 PM	#7
realchic1999 Embrace nothingness! Forum Regular Join Date: May 23, 2001 Posts: 719	Another thing. I think the departing cast should've gotten a special sendoff (I have a feeling they didn't). It sucks that they were brushed off like yesterday's news. At least Tannis got to come back to "graduate."

06-30-2004, 08:12 PM	#8
Classicshowsgurl15 Happy Days Senior Member Join Date: Jun 28, 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,088	I have that episode too. I like it,but what gets me is that Eric suddenly likes Viki and then it is like after this episode Simone and Eric never get back together until the last episode when they decide to get married.

10-14-2004, 09:08 AM	#11
warsaw dreams Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2000 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA Posts: 659	Another thing that always bugged me was the way they handled Mr. Moore leaving in the first episode of the 5th season. He left notes for all the students. Mr. Moore strikes me as being a guy who would come in and talk to his class if he was leaving, not leave little notes behind!

12-16-2004, 09:49 AM	#13
warsaw dreams Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2000 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA Posts: 659	He had moved to California with his parents.

06-09-2006, 01:14 PM	#15
warsaw dreams Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2000 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA Posts: 659	Supposedly, Mr. Moore gave a little note to each of his students. I would have expected more from a great teacher like that.