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CheersChild4life · 08-29-2003, 11:27 PM

Could Cheers have made as well as they did it if Jhon, Kelsey, and Bebe didn't become part of the cast not so much Bebe but Kelsey and Jhon I dunno mabey without Kelsey but not Jhon

MaydayMalonesGirl · 08-29-2003, 11:38 PM

I think the show would have still been sucessful, but we wouldn't have some great episodes that are centered around those three charecters. Cliff is such a great charecter... I couldn't imagine Cheers without him. Frasier and Lilith are great, too.

dr frasier crane · 08-29-2003, 11:57 PM

I think all the characters worked fine. I wouldn't change anything.
If Frasier wasn't on Cheers, then we wouldn't have Frasier the tv show!

Brian Damage · 08-30-2003, 10:35 AM

That's a good question. I don't really know how well Cheers could've done without the quick wit of Frasier or the hilarious banter between Norm and Cliff. They were so important to the overall show.

CarJackSnyder · 08-30-2003, 12:18 PM

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That's a good question. I don't really know how well Cheers could've done without the quick wit of Frasier or the hilarious banter between Norm and Cliff. They were so important to the overall show.

agree

DianeChambers87 · 09-01-2003, 04:05 PM

I don't really know either......but it's funny because those specific characters are the three that I like the least...like I still love them but they aren't first in line.....I think it would have survived......maybe it wouldn't have been as funny but then again the first season was hilarious so Yes I think Cheers would have been fine.

Teddy02 · 09-02-2003, 07:57 AM

Well if Kelsey Grammer never joined the cast Shelley Long probably would have stayed longer because that was one of the things that "drove her over the edge" so to speak. Without Fraiser of course there would be no Lilith unless she got together with Sam, which in my opinion would have been a hilarious storyline. The show would have lasted without Kelsey and Bebe just not as long. As for John I don' think it would have. cliff added so much comedy to the show. I mean if all else fails, pick on the mail man! lol but seriously cliff is almost as "cheersy" as Norm is. lol that's a new word "cheersy"

DansonQueen · 09-02-2003, 09:05 AM

Cliff is probably one of my favorite parts of Cheers. Whenever there's an episode that maybe I've seen one too many times, or doesnt pack the same punch as other episodes, you can always count of Norm or Cliff to somehow pull the episode together with their crazy antics. I think Frasier was pretty crucial to the gang too. a.) to provide complications with the sam/diane romance, b.) to give the barflys a "steady man" to play jokes on, etc, c.) watching his deterioration over the years is great (he starts out as this "serious" psychologist, and in the last seasons like to complain about his patients/job/etc, and d.) to carry the show into a successful spin-off (theres more, thats all I can think of tight now) I can only think of a few times were Lilith really "bettered" Cheers, but I know there are a lot of Lilith fans around, and I know all the reasons why people liked Lilith...I just didnt.

barwars · 09-02-2003, 12:18 PM

I agree completely.

Both Frasier and Cliff are crucial to the Cheers gang. Lilith (one of my FAVORITE characters), is not as crucial to the storylines, making her less important, but still VERY funny.

I think the show could have lasted without Lilith, maybe somes laughs and some episodes would be lost, but the show would still last.

But I think it wouldnt last as long if Cliff and Frasier werent there. And thank God they were!

But what I really wonder is if the show would last without Woody. Because Woody Harrelson had a successful film career during the series run, which may have helped boost ratings.

Cheers without Lilith - Yes, not as funny, but Yes.

Cheers without Frasier/Cliff - No.

Cheers without Woody - hmm.... ??

CheersChild4life · 09-02-2003, 12:43 PM

Woody...........NO I don't think it would have sone as well

MaydayMalonesGirl · 09-02-2003, 12:52 PM

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Cheers without Woody - hmm.... ??

hmm... well if nick colosanto didnt die then they probably nvr would have written coach out.... then there wouldn't be a need for woody well w/e i love woody hes one of my favorite characters

08-29-2003, 11:27 PM	#1
CheersChild4life Absolutely Fabulous Senior Member Join Date: Nov 23, 2002 Location: Somwhere Fabulous Posts: 2,814	Could they Could Cheers have made as well as they did it if Jhon, Kelsey, and Bebe didn't become part of the cast not so much Bebe but Kelsey and Jhon I dunno mabey without Kelsey but not Jhon

08-29-2003, 11:57 PM	#3
dr frasier crane Imagine Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 489	I think all the characters worked fine. I wouldn't change anything. If Frasier wasn't on Cheers, then we wouldn't have Frasier the tv show!
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09-01-2003, 04:05 PM	#6
DianeChambers87 Elizabeth B. Malone Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 16, 2003 Location: Swampland USA Posts: 5,178	I don't really know either......but it's funny because those specific characters are the three that I like the least...like I still love them but they aren't first in line.....I think it would have survived......maybe it wouldn't have been as funny but then again the first season was hilarious so Yes I think Cheers would have been fine.
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09-02-2003, 07:57 AM	#7
Teddy02 La Vita e Bella Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 09, 2003 Posts: 572	Well if Kelsey Grammer never joined the cast Shelley Long probably would have stayed longer because that was one of the things that "drove her over the edge" so to speak. Without Fraiser of course there would be no Lilith unless she got together with Sam, which in my opinion would have been a hilarious storyline. The show would have lasted without Kelsey and Bebe just not as long. As for John I don' think it would have. cliff added so much comedy to the show. I mean if all else fails, pick on the mail man! lol but seriously cliff is almost as "cheersy" as Norm is. lol that's a new word "cheersy"
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08-29-2003, 11:38 PM	#2
MaydayMalonesGirl ACID! POLICEHHHH! Forum Star Join Date: Apr 24, 2003 Location: in a van down by the river. Posts: 18,393	I think the show would have still been sucessful, but we wouldn't have some great episodes that are centered around those three charecters. Cliff is such a great charecter... I couldn't imagine Cheers without him. Frasier and Lilith are great, too.

08-30-2003, 10:35 AM	#4
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	That's a good question. I don't really know how well Cheers could've done without the quick wit of Frasier or the hilarious banter between Norm and Cliff. They were so important to the overall show.

09-02-2003, 09:05 AM	#8
DansonQueen Young and Sweet Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 17, 2002 Location: Where Everybody Knows My Name Posts: 114	Cliff is probably one of my favorite parts of Cheers. Whenever there's an episode that maybe I've seen one too many times, or doesnt pack the same punch as other episodes, you can always count of Norm or Cliff to somehow pull the episode together with their crazy antics. I think Frasier was pretty crucial to the gang too. a.) to provide complications with the sam/diane romance, b.) to give the barflys a "steady man" to play jokes on, etc, c.) watching his deterioration over the years is great (he starts out as this "serious" psychologist, and in the last seasons like to complain about his patients/job/etc, and d.) to carry the show into a successful spin-off (theres more, thats all I can think of tight now) I can only think of a few times were Lilith really "bettered" Cheers, but I know there are a lot of Lilith fans around, and I know all the reasons why people liked Lilith...I just didnt.

09-02-2003, 12:18 PM	#9
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	I agree completely. Both Frasier and Cliff are crucial to the Cheers gang. Lilith (one of my FAVORITE characters), is not as crucial to the storylines, making her less important, but still VERY funny. I think the show could have lasted without Lilith, maybe somes laughs and some episodes would be lost, but the show would still last. But I think it wouldnt last as long if Cliff and Frasier werent there. And thank God they were! But what I really wonder is if the show would last without Woody. Because Woody Harrelson had a successful film career during the series run, which may have helped boost ratings. Cheers without Lilith - Yes, not as funny, but Yes. Cheers without Frasier/Cliff - No. Cheers without Woody - hmm.... ??

09-02-2003, 12:43 PM	#10
CheersChild4life Absolutely Fabulous Senior Member Join Date: Nov 23, 2002 Location: Somwhere Fabulous Posts: 2,814	Woody...........NO I don't think it would have sone as well