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80skid · 02-01-2001, 05:01 PM

Did anyone else notice the fact starting with "Ain't Miss Beholden" (my favorite episode of all time, by the way

) the credits have "Nancy McKeon as Jo"? I think it's cuz she won an Emmy for FOL Go to Paris, but I'm not so sure. Anyone know why?

Love The Facts Of Life · 02-01-2001, 05:22 PM

I think she was listed as Jo since she was voted "most popular charecter" or something.But she was listed as Jo for the last couple of years,I belive.

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Jo:Blair, you always look so shique and yet so natural, I was thinking you could do somthing with my hair.
Blair:Yeah!Like wash it?
Jo:No!I was going for that brain dead look you've got!

Nat:Who wants to be a skiny pencil?I'd rather be a happy magic marker.

Ms.G:Girls!Will you tell me what's been going on here?
Nat:Group sleep walking?
Ms.G

gives that"Idon't believe you"look)
Blair:Well,you know the first day of school getting settledin and meeting new people....
Tootie:Yeah!!And now comes Miller time!

JoBlaiRNaTooT · 02-01-2001, 05:39 PM

i didn't know she won an emmy for FOL goes to paris. that's cool.

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"You're born, you move on, you die. That's life." ~ Jo Polniaczek

Margo: "I'm on a diet. Just one roll."
Jo: "I've seen you in gym clothes. You've got a lot more than one roll!"

"Will you please keep your hands off my a*s before I kick yours!" ~ Jinny Exstead

FOL85NatandMrsGRock · 02-01-2001, 06:30 PM

In those years it was popular to have the last person in the credits with the character they played... they do that in a LOT of tv shows.. it MIGHT be cuz she is the most popular character but i highly doutb that... cuz they didnt do that when Blair was still the favorite character among people... so i think the whole thing about ti cuz Jo was the fav character is BS! major BS... sorry i know you'd like to think that.. but it was popular in that time period and is still today that the last person in the credits gets to have their character name...

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jo: mrs. g gone on ahead I KNOW i can fix the problem
MRs. G: jo only twice in my life have i spoke in an arbitrary manner, once when my ex husband morgaged our home to pay the bookee, and now, GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE OR I'LL BEAT YOU WITH MY FRYING PAN!!!

Jo: Woaw Nat!! Nice Girls Don't Throw Trees!!!

blair: now jo i know we usually dont agree but that was a scuzy thing for your mother to do!
tootie: wahts so scuzy about it!?!? dont you read the national enquirer, some of the best people are Shacking up!!
mrs. g: TOOTIE!!! im surrounded by x-rated kids!!!

****I AM FOR NO DEATH IN ALL FANFICTIONS!!! DEATH IS WRONG WHEN IT IS TO MAIN CHARACTERS!!! I AM AN ANTI-DEATH IN ALL FAN FICTIONS FAN!!!****

~FOL85NatandMrsGRock~
*Sarah Lynn*

ThomasE · 02-01-2001, 10:00 PM

My favorite line from this episode was:

Jo

pretending to be nice) You know,Blair I was thinking of doing something with my hair.

Blair: You mean like washing it?

That was cold and Blair should have been slapped....that's OK it will happen in episode 74. Jo didn't take that mess and stopped acting phony.

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Rose: I wish Dorothy were here.

Blanche: Not even she can help us.

Rose: No but she can beat the crap out of you!

Cokies · 02-02-2001, 07:50 PM

Sorry to bring this up again, I havent been around for a couple days... Anyway, I do believe that they started the 'Nancy McKeon as Jo' thing because it was appropriate to have the most popular character as the last shown on the credits. With the 'as Jo' thing with it. I mean, for example: Malcolm in the Middle, Frankie Muniz is listed last on the credits. It does'nt exactly have to mean that, but i'd say it would be a safe assumption.

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"It was just like Saturday Night Fever, only it was a Friday."

lesliem14 · 02-02-2001, 07:56 PM

I agree with Cokies on this one. To add another example: Jonathan Taylor Thomas on Home Improvement was moved to end of the opening credits about midway through the run with the "as Randy"

Schmoopie · 06-17-2019, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomasE

My favorite line from this episode was:

Jo

pretending to be nice) You know,Blair I was thinking of doing something with my hair.

Blair: You mean like washing it?

That was funny.

'80sSitcoms · 06-18-2019, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 80skid

Did anyone else notice the fact starting with "Ain't Miss Beholden" (my favorite episode of all time, by the way

) the credits have "Nancy McKeon as Jo"? I think it's cuz she won an Emmy for FOL Go to Paris, but I'm not so sure. Anyone know why?

Wow. Nancy McKeon never won an Emmy for FOL. None of the girls were even nominated---only Charlotte was, once.

Sitcommania · 06-21-2019, 07:12 AM

I think the actors were ordered by experience. Lisa was the oldest and had the most experience after Charlotte. Kim was younger than Mindy but was already a professional. Obviously Mindy would have to be placed before Nancy McKeon because she had been on the show a full year. Then “and Jo” was an acknowledgement to Nancy’s popularity without reordering the cast. It was probably also requested by her management. I think Lisa mentioned on Nancy’s Biography that it briefly bothered her because she had been “second banana”.

Schmoopie · 06-24-2019, 02:34 AM

I really liked Nancy's performance in the Paris movie. She was great and I can see why she won an Emmy. Now I'm curious. Did her Paris boyfriend ever make an appearance on the show after that episode? I'm working my way through Season 5 and no sign of him yet.

'80sSitcoms · 06-24-2019, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmoopie

I really liked Nancy's performance in the Paris movie. She was great and I can see why she won an Emmy.

No, no. Nancy McKeon did not win an Emmy. She was never even nominated for an Emmy in her whole career. That's what I was saying "wow" above, I was shocked at that inaccuracy on this board.

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Originally Posted by Schmoopie

Now I'm curious. Did her Paris boyfriend ever make an appearance on the show after that episode? I'm working my way through Season 5 and no sign of him yet.

No, he only appeared in the movie. But now that you bring that up, it would have been great to see him show up in season 5 or beyond.

DDSM · 06-25-2019, 12:08 PM

No, he only appeared in the movie. But now that you bring that up, it would have been great to see him show up in season 5 or beyond.[/QUOTE]

I was sadden to see that they didn't pick up on that teen romance or maybe have him show up for the Valentine's Day Dance episode. Oh well!

Schmoopie · 06-26-2019, 03:17 AM

I've noticed (in Season 5 at least) that Nancy McKeon is the only cast member billed with her character name as well. It always says "And Nancy McKeon as Jo". I agree she's the best part of the show, but I find that really interesting that she is the only one billed that way.

'80sSitcoms · 06-26-2019, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmoopie

I've noticed (in Season 5 at least) that Nancy McKeon is the only cast member billed with her character name as well. It always says "And Nancy McKeon as Jo". I agree she's the best part of the show, but I find that really interesting that she is the only one billed that way.

You "agree" with whom? Are you saying that just because her character's name is credited, that she's the best character? If so, then I disagree. Lots of shows used to bill the last credited character with their character's name. A couple of examples are:

Mama's Family: "And Rue McClanahan as Aunt Fran"

Mr. Belvedere: "And Bob Eucker as George"

And those two aren't considered by most fans to be the best characters of those shows.

My guess for those character credits would be that the actors had really good agents when negotiating details.

02-01-2001, 05:01 PM	#1
80skid smile :) Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 18, 2000 Posts: 971	Started with "Ain't Miss Beholden" Did anyone else notice the fact starting with "Ain't Miss Beholden" (my favorite episode of all time, by the way ) the credits have "Nancy McKeon as Jo"? I think it's cuz she won an Emmy for FOL Go to Paris, but I'm not so sure. Anyone know why?

02-01-2001, 05:22 PM	#2
Love The Facts Of Life FlUtTeRfLy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 18, 2001 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,515	I think she was listed as Jo since she was voted "most popular charecter" or something.But she was listed as Jo for the last couple of years,I belive. ------------------ Jo:Blair, you always look so shique and yet so natural, I was thinking you could do somthing with my hair. Blair:Yeah!Like wash it? Jo:No!I was going for that brain dead look you've got! Nat:Who wants to be a skiny pencil?I'd rather be a happy magic marker. Ms.G:Girls!Will you tell me what's been going on here? Nat:Group sleep walking? Ms.Ggives that"Idon't believe you"look) Blair:Well,you know the first day of school getting settledin and meeting new people.... Tootie:Yeah!!And now comes Miller time!

02-01-2001, 05:39 PM	#3
JoBlaiRNaTooT Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 12, 2000 Location: Peekskill, NY (lol) Posts: 191	i didn't know she won an emmy for FOL goes to paris. that's cool. ------------------ "You're born, you move on, you die. That's life." ~ Jo Polniaczek Margo: "I'm on a diet. Just one roll." Jo: "I've seen you in gym clothes. You've got a lot more than one roll!" "Will you please keep your hands off my a*s before I kick yours!" ~ Jinny Exstead

02-01-2001, 06:30 PM	#4
FOL85NatandMrsGRock The Lovable Sarah Senior Member Join Date: Nov 07, 2000 Location: Wisconsin (Same Place Charlotte's From and where That 70's Show takes place!) .... Wish I was in Mayfield USA! Posts: 1,770	In those years it was popular to have the last person in the credits with the character they played... they do that in a LOT of tv shows.. it MIGHT be cuz she is the most popular character but i highly doutb that... cuz they didnt do that when Blair was still the favorite character among people... so i think the whole thing about ti cuz Jo was the fav character is BS! major BS... sorry i know you'd like to think that.. but it was popular in that time period and is still today that the last person in the credits gets to have their character name... ------------------ jo: mrs. g gone on ahead I KNOW i can fix the problem MRs. G: jo only twice in my life have i spoke in an arbitrary manner, once when my ex husband morgaged our home to pay the bookee, and now, GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE OR I'LL BEAT YOU WITH MY FRYING PAN!!! Jo: Woaw Nat!! Nice Girls Don't Throw Trees!!! blair: now jo i know we usually dont agree but that was a scuzy thing for your mother to do! tootie: wahts so scuzy about it!?!? dont you read the national enquirer, some of the best people are Shacking up!! mrs. g: TOOTIE!!! im surrounded by x-rated kids!!! **I AM FOR NO DEATH IN ALL FANFICTIONS!!! DEATH IS WRONG WHEN IT IS TO MAIN CHARACTERS!!! I AM AN ANTI-DEATH IN ALL FAN FICTIONS FAN!!!** ~FOL85NatandMrsGRock~ Sarah Lynn

02-01-2001, 10:00 PM	#5
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	My favorite line from this episode was: Jo pretending to be nice) You know,Blair I was thinking of doing something with my hair. Blair: You mean like washing it? That was cold and Blair should have been slapped....that's OK it will happen in episode 74. Jo didn't take that mess and stopped acting phony. ---------------------------------------- Rose: I wish Dorothy were here. Blanche: Not even she can help us. Rose: No but she can beat the crap out of you!

02-02-2001, 07:50 PM	#6
Cokies Head Goonie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 28, 2000 Location: Benicia, CA USA Posts: 1,719	Sorry to bring this up again, I havent been around for a couple days... Anyway, I do believe that they started the 'Nancy McKeon as Jo' thing because it was appropriate to have the most popular character as the last shown on the credits. With the 'as Jo' thing with it. I mean, for example: Malcolm in the Middle, Frankie Muniz is listed last on the credits. It does'nt exactly have to mean that, but i'd say it would be a safe assumption. ------------------ "It was just like Saturday Night Fever, only it was a Friday."

02-02-2001, 07:56 PM	#7
lesliem14 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Frankfort, KY Posts: 650	I agree with Cokies on this one. To add another example: Jonathan Taylor Thomas on Home Improvement was moved to end of the opening credits about midway through the run with the "as Randy"

06-21-2019, 07:12 AM	#10
Sitcommania Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 01, 2018 Location: New york Posts: 309	I think the actors were ordered by experience. Lisa was the oldest and had the most experience after Charlotte. Kim was younger than Mindy but was already a professional. Obviously Mindy would have to be placed before Nancy McKeon because she had been on the show a full year. Then “and Jo” was an acknowledgement to Nancy’s popularity without reordering the cast. It was probably also requested by her management. I think Lisa mentioned on Nancy’s Biography that it briefly bothered her because she had been “second banana”.

06-24-2019, 02:34 AM	#11
Schmoopie Keep Calm and Love Snoopy Forum Star Join Date: Jul 13, 2008 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 15,697	I really liked Nancy's performance in the Paris movie. She was great and I can see why she won an Emmy. Now I'm curious. Did her Paris boyfriend ever make an appearance on the show after that episode? I'm working my way through Season 5 and no sign of him yet.

06-25-2019, 12:08 PM	#13
DDSM Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 25, 2019 Posts: 8	No, he only appeared in the movie. But now that you bring that up, it would have been great to see him show up in season 5 or beyond.[/QUOTE] I was sadden to see that they didn't pick up on that teen romance or maybe have him show up for the Valentine's Day Dance episode. Oh well!

06-26-2019, 03:17 AM	#14
Schmoopie Keep Calm and Love Snoopy Forum Star Join Date: Jul 13, 2008 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 15,697	I've noticed (in Season 5 at least) that Nancy McKeon is the only cast member billed with her character name as well. It always says "And Nancy McKeon as Jo". I agree she's the best part of the show, but I find that really interesting that she is the only one billed that way.