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diongk · 08-21-2003, 04:51 PM

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When did Lucy & Ricky start sleeping in a bed together? I always thought they were the first on TV to do that, but found on a different web site that it was Fred & Ethel in 1955, done only on time and was not done again until Samantha and Darrin Stephens in 1964 (Bewitched).

SPLAIN · 08-21-2003, 04:54 PM

FRED AND ETHEL TOGETHER IN BED????? Please i'm about to go home for dinner!

Lodee · 08-21-2003, 05:24 PM

Only time I remember is in that hotel room on the way to Hollywood.

dawsongirl · 08-21-2003, 06:45 PM

Wasn't it the time when they were in that rickety little cabin and Ethel had to tie Fred to the bed because the mattress sunk in the middle?

*ShortCake* · 08-21-2003, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by SPLAIN
FRED AND ETHEL TOGETHER IN BED????? Please i'm about to go home for dinner!

LOL Omg.. I just got a mental picture in my head.... thats just not .. good. I could see Viv and Bill hating every minute of it too!

Mickey · 08-22-2003, 03:50 AM

Love, Lucy - don't worry about the image of Fred and Ethel in bed. I'm trying to deal with the image of Ethel tying Fred to the bed. Jeez, and in those episodes Ricky and Lucy had to have separate beds! Look what their friends were getting up to!

Lodee · 08-22-2003, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by Mickey
Love, Lucy - don't worry about the image of Fred and Ethel in bed. I'm trying to deal with the image of Ethel tying Fred to the bed. Jeez, and in those episodes Ricky and Lucy had to have separate beds! Look what their friends were getting up to!

ew........................

SPLAIN · 08-22-2003, 09:36 AM

Look at First Stop and you'll see the strength Ethel has to muster to get his robe into the bed to get him as far away from her as possible, then she pads the middle with all the clothes and pillows she can find, nothing of his will get anywhere close to her if she can help it!

*ShortCake* · 08-22-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by SPLAIN
Look at First Stop and you'll see the strength Ethel has to muster to get his robe into the bed to get him as far away from her as possible, then she pads the middle with all the clothes and pillows she can find, nothing of his will get anywhere close to her if she can help it!

SPLAIN · 08-22-2003, 01:07 PM

That scene looks so natural, you'd swear she had been doing that for 25 years.

Mickey · 08-22-2003, 01:51 PM

Maybe she had! Ever wonder why exactly they did hate each other so much?!

SPLAIN · 08-22-2003, 02:38 PM

Well, there's no denying that he was a miserable old man and she had many mental issues. You know the story that he overheard she had complained about being thought of as the wife of that old man, so they hated each other from then on. But, he hated everbody equally, they never knew how to sing, the girls were brass bound bitches, Desi was that Cuban this or that. All he cared about was baseball and the show usually got in the way. My two favorite stories about him are the one where he only took his lines out of the script to memorize them and he went to complain to Desi that "Hello Ethel" was not funny. So Desi had to explain to him that Ethel was inside the back end of a horse when he came in the room, did not see her, but instantly knew it was her and said Hello Ethel, so Bill says, oh yeah, you're right, that IS funny! The other one is at The Emmy Awards and He lost five times to Art Carney, but Viv won one year, so with her there listening, carrying her Emmy to the table, he says WELL, THIS REALLY PROVES THE AWARDS ARE FIXED! But he was a lovable old coot, who created a character that you often see in comedy shows, the old man or woman who's miserable about everything and a great source of snide comments now and then. Vivian even told Jerry on The Lucy show that he had lots of Fred Mertz lines!

Mickey · 08-22-2003, 03:39 PM

Well I suppose he might have been faking it all those years, like Walter Matthau. You ever hear about how everyone would say that despite appearances, Matthau actually had a heart of gold, and he'd say sod that, I'm a complete bastard thankyou very much.

He'd also refer to Jack Lemmon and himself as St Jack and the Grouch.

So there's a chance that William Frawley was actually sweet and kind and just wanted everybody to think he was nasty.

Okay, slim chance, I know. Still, even if he did always call Desi 'that Cuban whatever' all the time, Desi was supposed to have quite liked him, so he can't have been all bad.

SPLAIN · 08-22-2003, 03:47 PM

He took care of his sister the way Lucy and Desi took care of their friends and family all their lives, he lasted in a business that spits everybody out after a little while, made what, 100 films? He left Desilu or the show while still under contract and went to My Three Sons, where he played a similar character until his health stopped him from working. When he had that heart attack, he was very old, not bad for an alcoholic who did what he liked most of his life and is remembered as one of the most beloved tv characters of all time.

08-21-2003, 04:51 PM	#1
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08-21-2003, 04:54 PM	#2
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	FRED AND ETHEL TOGETHER IN BED????? Please i'm about to go home for dinner!

08-21-2003, 05:24 PM	#3
Lodee Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 12, 2003 Posts: 1,562	Only time I remember is in that hotel room on the way to Hollywood.

08-21-2003, 06:45 PM	#4
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,128	Wasn't it the time when they were in that rickety little cabin and Ethel had to tie Fred to the bed because the mattress sunk in the middle?

08-22-2003, 03:50 AM	#6
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Love, Lucy - don't worry about the image of Fred and Ethel in bed. I'm trying to deal with the image of Ethel tying Fred to the bed. Jeez, and in those episodes Ricky and Lucy had to have separate beds! Look what their friends were getting up to!

08-22-2003, 09:36 AM	#8
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Look at First Stop and you'll see the strength Ethel has to muster to get his robe into the bed to get him as far away from her as possible, then she pads the middle with all the clothes and pillows she can find, nothing of his will get anywhere close to her if she can help it!

08-22-2003, 01:07 PM	#10
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	That scene looks so natural, you'd swear she had been doing that for 25 years.

08-22-2003, 01:51 PM	#11
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Maybe she had! Ever wonder why exactly they did hate each other so much?!

08-22-2003, 02:38 PM	#12
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Well, there's no denying that he was a miserable old man and she had many mental issues. You know the story that he overheard she had complained about being thought of as the wife of that old man, so they hated each other from then on. But, he hated everbody equally, they never knew how to sing, the girls were brass bound bitches, Desi was that Cuban this or that. All he cared about was baseball and the show usually got in the way. My two favorite stories about him are the one where he only took his lines out of the script to memorize them and he went to complain to Desi that "Hello Ethel" was not funny. So Desi had to explain to him that Ethel was inside the back end of a horse when he came in the room, did not see her, but instantly knew it was her and said Hello Ethel, so Bill says, oh yeah, you're right, that IS funny! The other one is at The Emmy Awards and He lost five times to Art Carney, but Viv won one year, so with her there listening, carrying her Emmy to the table, he says WELL, THIS REALLY PROVES THE AWARDS ARE FIXED! But he was a lovable old coot, who created a character that you often see in comedy shows, the old man or woman who's miserable about everything and a great source of snide comments now and then. Vivian even told Jerry on The Lucy show that he had lots of Fred Mertz lines!

08-22-2003, 03:39 PM	#13
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Well I suppose he might have been faking it all those years, like Walter Matthau. You ever hear about how everyone would say that despite appearances, Matthau actually had a heart of gold, and he'd say sod that, I'm a complete bastard thankyou very much. He'd also refer to Jack Lemmon and himself as St Jack and the Grouch. So there's a chance that William Frawley was actually sweet and kind and just wanted everybody to think he was nasty. Okay, slim chance, I know. Still, even if he did always call Desi 'that Cuban whatever' all the time, Desi was supposed to have quite liked him, so he can't have been all bad.

08-22-2003, 03:47 PM	#14
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	He took care of his sister the way Lucy and Desi took care of their friends and family all their lives, he lasted in a business that spits everybody out after a little while, made what, 100 films? He left Desilu or the show while still under contract and went to My Three Sons, where he played a similar character until his health stopped him from working. When he had that heart attack, he was very old, not bad for an alcoholic who did what he liked most of his life and is remembered as one of the most beloved tv characters of all time.