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Cheryl Harrell · 08-15-2003, 05:37 AM

Remember the Juniper Sierra (SP? Hope I spelled it right) episode of CATM? The one where the garage is gonna be torn down to be made into a power plant but Chico & Ed successfully stop it from being torn down & save it? Well I came across this article on the internet. There is a real Juniper Sierra & he put up a cross over 200 yrs ago in CA & now athiests want to take it down. I bet if Freddie were here he'd be upset about that. Here all this time I thought Juniper Sierra was a made up character!

Here is the article:

http://traditionalvalues.org/article.php?sid=1102

Luckymama58 · 08-15-2003, 06:27 AM

Thanks, Cheryl, for the info. Being a Catholic, I had heard of Father Serra, but the show told me a little more. Here is a good site on the Franciscan Friar who helped his order establish missions in Mexico and California.
http://www.catholic-church.org/serra-beth/serra-4.htm

BTW thanks for the info about the happenings in CA. I know this isn't a forum for such discussions, but even if you aren't religious, there is something disturbing about a small group's ability to "rewrite" history. Like it or not, much of our country's history is tied up with religion in one form or another. It saddens me to think that people want to change the past, instead of learning from it. And that is my two centavos.

And on a related note, I was always impressed with the writers of Chico and the Man for trying to make sure things were a correct reflection of the times, the area, and the beliefs of the people they were portraying. I know a lot of people were upset with some of the bigotry portrayed, but unfortunately, that is a part of our history too. It was shows like CATM (and others of the time) that put prejudice in our face and made us think about the way we looked at those who were different. Instead of making fun of Hispanics, I think the show made me more aware and sensitive of those who aren't of the same nationality, religious upbring, political POV, etc. In shining a spotlight on Ed's bigotry of Chicanos, and his conversion by Chico, it taught me tollerance, not hate. Thank you Chico, Ed and everyone associated with the show.

I'll get down off my soapbox now, don't throw tomatoes, por favor!

Cheryl Harrell · 08-15-2003, 03:04 PM

It's amazing whatI've learned from watching CATM. Like I recently saw a billboard along the road written in spanish. It said Albagado on it & I knew from watching CATM even tho I don't know Spanish that it was advertising a lawyer to Hispanics!

ItalianBread · 09-24-2003, 12:29 PM

fyi I think it is abogado

MariposaLKB · 09-24-2003, 01:54 PM

Remember the episode (if anyone can remind me exactly which one it was, I would appreciate it BTW LOL!) in which Chico told Ed he had an uncle who was an "abogado", and Ed asked, "Your uncle is an avocado?!" ROTFLMAO!

Cheryl Harrell · 09-24-2003, 03:57 PM

That was so funny ROTFL! I'd never heard of an albagado (Sp?) before until then...

Luckymama58 · 09-24-2003, 09:02 PM

The episode you are thinking of was one of the first ones.... where Chico makes Ed a tequila sunrise and Ed wakes up with a hangover, and Chico had Ed sign a binding contract with him to be his employee for life. It was called, "Second Thoughts". It was also was the one which ended with Chico buying the wooden Indian with the tape recorder on the back of it to advertise the business..... Chico told Ed he had an uncle who was an abogado who told him that Ed was the party of the first part and that the party of the first part didn't have a leg to stand on and he (Chico) wouldn't leave Ed standing there on one leg! LOL

MariposaLKB · 09-24-2003, 09:24 PM

I remember now! That episode was toooo funny! Wasn't that also the one in which we got to hear just about the most we ever did on the show of Freddie's singing? I mean that doo-wop type song that he went into as he talked about how he could tune several cars at once and have them all singing in harmony...

Luckymama58 · 09-24-2003, 09:30 PM

YOU GOT IT! (Ala Chico!) LOL

MMMM wasn't that singing dreamy!

MariposaLKB · 09-24-2003, 09:34 PM

ABSOLUTELY! (Also in that sexy Puerto Rican accent hee hee!)

08-15-2003, 05:37 AM	#1
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	Guess What? There Was A Real Juniper Sierra! Remember the Juniper Sierra (SP? Hope I spelled it right) episode of CATM? The one where the garage is gonna be torn down to be made into a power plant but Chico & Ed successfully stop it from being torn down & save it? Well I came across this article on the internet. There is a real Juniper Sierra & he put up a cross over 200 yrs ago in CA & now athiests want to take it down. I bet if Freddie were here he'd be upset about that. Here all this time I thought Juniper Sierra was a made up character! Here is the article: http://traditionalvalues.org/article.php?sid=1102 Attached Images
	__________________ RIP darling Mike. I love you forever... You are with Freddie Prinze & Jesus now. 1951-2009 "Make it your way, who can beat the Lord, the Son of God. Dear Lord, help me be strong where I am weak, if it be your will"-- The Late Freddie Prinze Sr

08-15-2003, 06:27 AM	#2
Luckymama58 Math Geeks Unite! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2001 Location: In my rock and roll fantasy Posts: 2,553	Blessed Junípero Serra Thanks, Cheryl, for the info. Being a Catholic, I had heard of Father Serra, but the show told me a little more. Here is a good site on the Franciscan Friar who helped his order establish missions in Mexico and California. http://www.catholic-church.org/serra-beth/serra-4.htm BTW thanks for the info about the happenings in CA. I know this isn't a forum for such discussions, but even if you aren't religious, there is something disturbing about a small group's ability to "rewrite" history. Like it or not, much of our country's history is tied up with religion in one form or another. It saddens me to think that people want to change the past, instead of learning from it. And that is my two centavos. And on a related note, I was always impressed with the writers of Chico and the Man for trying to make sure things were a correct reflection of the times, the area, and the beliefs of the people they were portraying. I know a lot of people were upset with some of the bigotry portrayed, but unfortunately, that is a part of our history too. It was shows like CATM (and others of the time) that put prejudice in our face and made us think about the way we looked at those who were different. Instead of making fun of Hispanics, I think the show made me more aware and sensitive of those who aren't of the same nationality, religious upbring, political POV, etc. In shining a spotlight on Ed's bigotry of Chicanos, and his conversion by Chico, it taught me tollerance, not hate. Thank you Chico, Ed and everyone associated with the show. I'll get down off my soapbox now, don't throw tomatoes, por favor!
	__________________ We All Use Math Every Day! Everything is Numb3rs! Capt. Jack: Drink up, me hardies, Yo Ho! I reject your reality and substitute my own!-Adam Savage, Mythbuster A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds... With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. -Ralph Waldo Emerson RIP Freddie Prinze 1954-1977 You have your star now. Last edited by Luckymama58; 08-15-2003 at 06:44 AM.

09-24-2003, 01:54 PM	#5
MariposaLKB She flies alone Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: The great unknown Posts: 3,436	Yes it is... Remember the episode (if anyone can remind me exactly which one it was, I would appreciate it BTW LOL!) in which Chico told Ed he had an uncle who was an "abogado", and Ed asked, "Your uncle is an avocado?!" ROTFLMAO!
	__________________ Within a cage Try to escape Her silent rage But no one ever listens... -Butterfly (Mariposa)

09-24-2003, 09:24 PM	#8
MariposaLKB She flies alone Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: The great unknown Posts: 3,436	Thanx mucho, Lucky! I remember now! That episode was toooo funny! Wasn't that also the one in which we got to hear just about the most we ever did on the show of Freddie's singing? I mean that doo-wop type song that he went into as he talked about how he could tune several cars at once and have them all singing in harmony...

08-15-2003, 03:04 PM	#3
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	It's amazing whatI've learned from watching CATM. Like I recently saw a billboard along the road written in spanish. It said Albagado on it & I knew from watching CATM even tho I don't know Spanish that it was advertising a lawyer to Hispanics!

09-24-2003, 12:29 PM	#4
ItalianBread Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 15, 2003 Posts: 68	fyi I think it is abogado

09-24-2003, 03:57 PM	#6
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	That was so funny ROTFL! I'd never heard of an albagado (Sp?) before until then...

09-24-2003, 09:02 PM	#7
Luckymama58 Math Geeks Unite! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2001 Location: In my rock and roll fantasy Posts: 2,553	The episode you are thinking of was one of the first ones.... where Chico makes Ed a tequila sunrise and Ed wakes up with a hangover, and Chico had Ed sign a binding contract with him to be his employee for life. It was called, "Second Thoughts". It was also was the one which ended with Chico buying the wooden Indian with the tape recorder on the back of it to advertise the business..... Chico told Ed he had an uncle who was an abogado who told him that Ed was the party of the first part and that the party of the first part didn't have a leg to stand on and he (Chico) wouldn't leave Ed standing there on one leg! LOL

09-24-2003, 09:30 PM	#9
Luckymama58 Math Geeks Unite! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2001 Location: In my rock and roll fantasy Posts: 2,553	YOU GOT IT! (Ala Chico!) LOL MMMM wasn't that singing dreamy!

09-24-2003, 09:34 PM	#10
MariposaLKB She flies alone Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: The great unknown Posts: 3,436	ABSOLUTELY! (Also in that sexy Puerto Rican accent hee hee!)