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Ricardos4ever · 08-14-2003, 07:47 PM

Splain mentioned in another thread that he thought that Gary Morton, Lucy's 2nd husband, could have been the man whose name and address was written by Lucy on the piece of paper that Desi had found before the divorce and used it against her as a kind of blackmail. Desi described this in his book. Well, today I saw this photo that is attached below. Here is the caption:

Lucille Ball/Gary Morton Seated in Club
Original caption: 1958-New York, NY: East 54th Street. Lucille Ball and Gary Morton are shown seated in the El Morocco Club. 1958.

Now, I thought that Gary and Lucy didn't meet until well after she and Desi were divorced, when she was doing the play "Wildcat" in NYC? This certainly was well after 1958. During that year, Lucy and Desi were still very much married (although, very unhappy).

Do you think that the date on the caption could have been a mistake? It seems like the most logical explaination. But then again, it is supposed to be the original caption, and if that's so, you'd think it would have been first published around the time that it was dated. Very very strange.

*ShortCake* · 08-14-2003, 08:44 PM

That is strange!! I didnt even know about that. I need to buy Desi's book and read it.

Lodee · 08-14-2003, 09:37 PM

Pretty interesting. I think the date is probably wrong though. Didn't Lucy still have long hair in 58? And I don't think she'd go out with him in public.

dawsongirl · 08-15-2003, 12:44 AM

Her hair was short in 58. It was short starting with the third LDCH.

SPLAIN · 08-15-2003, 09:49 AM

I agree that the year was wrong, that looks like much later, i've seen that picture. However, i knew that the story of meeting Gary and stalling about having pizza with him and all that could have been fabricated to cover up the liaison having started well before that. It is definitely NOT something i KNOW or SUSPECT but just rather something i've always wanted to know, the identity of the man's name on that slip of paper.

Lodee · 08-15-2003, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by SPLAIN
i've always wanted to know, the identity of the man's name on that slip of paper.

I hope the name belonged to someone more interesting than Gary!

SPLAIN · 08-15-2003, 11:31 AM

Yeah, even Red Buttons would be an improvement! Well, we know it was'nt Cesar Romero!

Lodee · 08-15-2003, 12:31 PM

Red Buttons.

SPLAIN · 08-15-2003, 12:58 PM

And it was'nt Jack Palance or Richard Burton either.

That Other Fan · 08-15-2003, 12:59 PM

Yeah the date is incorrect.

Lucy, as most in the public eye, cared too much about her image to be seen THAT close in public to another man while she was still one part of "America's most famous couple". That would've sparked way too many rumors and the media/public wouldn't have sympathized with her as they did when the divorce was finally annoucned.

As Irma Kusely once said "She was not a foolish child"

SPLAIN · 08-15-2003, 01:11 PM

Exactly, that's how we know for a fact that it can't be from '58, well said too!

08-14-2003, 07:47 PM	#1
Ricardos4ever Henna-rinsess Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 28, 2002 Location: Somewhere in the middle of the world's longest Conga line Posts: 473	Morton Morocco Mystery Splain mentioned in another thread that he thought that Gary Morton, Lucy's 2nd husband, could have been the man whose name and address was written by Lucy on the piece of paper that Desi had found before the divorce and used it against her as a kind of blackmail. Desi described this in his book. Well, today I saw this photo that is attached below. Here is the caption: Lucille Ball/Gary Morton Seated in Club Original caption: 1958-New York, NY: East 54th Street. Lucille Ball and Gary Morton are shown seated in the El Morocco Club. 1958. Now, I thought that Gary and Lucy didn't meet until well after she and Desi were divorced, when she was doing the play "Wildcat" in NYC? This certainly was well after 1958. During that year, Lucy and Desi were still very much married (although, very unhappy). Do you think that the date on the caption could have been a mistake? It seems like the most logical explaination. But then again, it is supposed to be the original caption, and if that's so, you'd think it would have been first published around the time that it was dated. Very very strange. Attached Images
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08-14-2003, 08:44 PM	#2
ShortCake Blair Warner fan. Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Florida Posts: 3,761	That is strange!! I didnt even know about that. I need to buy Desi's book and read it.
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08-14-2003, 09:37 PM	#3
Lodee Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 12, 2003 Posts: 1,562	Pretty interesting. I think the date is probably wrong though. Didn't Lucy still have long hair in 58? And I don't think she'd go out with him in public.

08-15-2003, 12:44 AM	#4
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,128	Her hair was short in 58. It was short starting with the third LDCH.

08-15-2003, 09:49 AM	#5
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	I agree that the year was wrong, that looks like much later, i've seen that picture. However, i knew that the story of meeting Gary and stalling about having pizza with him and all that could have been fabricated to cover up the liaison having started well before that. It is definitely NOT something i KNOW or SUSPECT but just rather something i've always wanted to know, the identity of the man's name on that slip of paper.

08-15-2003, 11:31 AM	#7
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Yeah, even Red Buttons would be an improvement! Well, we know it was'nt Cesar Romero!

08-15-2003, 12:31 PM	#8
Lodee Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 12, 2003 Posts: 1,562	Red Buttons.

08-15-2003, 12:58 PM	#9
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	And it was'nt Jack Palance or Richard Burton either.

08-15-2003, 12:59 PM	#10
That Other Fan Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 27, 2001 Posts: 191	Yeah the date is incorrect. Lucy, as most in the public eye, cared too much about her image to be seen THAT close in public to another man while she was still one part of "America's most famous couple". That would've sparked way too many rumors and the media/public wouldn't have sympathized with her as they did when the divorce was finally annoucned. As Irma Kusely once said "She was not a foolish child"

08-15-2003, 01:11 PM	#11
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Exactly, that's how we know for a fact that it can't be from '58, well said too!