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bjorkish · 07-09-2003, 03:36 AM

I hear so many people complain about the way that the show portrays gay people. I am gay and I really don't have a problem with it at all. The people who say that are those small-minded ones. The ones that I can't stand. I think the way gay people are portrayed is fine. And I can't figure out what the big deal is about it.

Will and Grace Fanatic · 07-12-2003, 10:39 PM

People complain way to much. There are actually some gay men who do find comfort in their female friends. They are just protraying a good friendship that a man and woman can have without it involving sex.

omalleyfan · 08-29-2003, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Will and Grace Fanatic
People complain way to much. There are actually some gay men who do find comfort in their female friends. They are just protraying a good friendship that a man and woman can have without it involving sex.

I agree with that. I am a bisexual male, but I have always had problems with dating guys who have really close "*** hags". I know a lot of them are sane and normal about it, but I always pick the ones who have the psychos who for some reason don't realize their gay friends are not their boyfriends. The last guy I was interested in's "hag" was very rude, stuck-up and nasty, and then the guy told me to go to hell because I was just as nasty to her as she was toward me.

BlueEyesKid · 09-01-2003, 12:29 AM

I know! Everyone says thinks that gay people should be like Jack instead of Will, that gay people don't "act" like Will...well, just like hetero's, homosexuals come in all shapes, sizes, colours, and all are unique. The stereotypical Gay person is Jack, well Will is more of an eye opener...in my opinion.

spookystarbuck · 10-21-2003, 01:06 PM

I know, I do know quite a few gay men who are like Jack however the lad I know who is one of my best mates is TOTALLY straight but I swear, our relationship is just like Will&Grace's. That's partly why I like the programme, it is funny to see what WE do.
lol.

Moonshadow · 10-24-2003, 01:02 AM

I don't have a problem with it either.

spookystarbuck · 10-24-2003, 08:14 AM

by the way, you'll probably know more than me but why do female friends of a gay male get called "hags"?
Please respond!

Moonshadow · 10-24-2003, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by spookystarbuck
by the way, you'll probably know more than me but why do female friends of a gay male get called "hags"?
Please respond!

lol

spookystarbuck · 10-26-2003, 06:35 PM

No, seriously. I wasn't joking. I really don't know and I got called one today by one of my mates.
I take it it's a derrogitary (sp?) thing then?

Jordan · 12-07-2003, 07:58 PM

Ignorant people just don't want to see gay people on tv. Period. There is nothing wrong with the way the characters are portrayed -- every one is entirely different, just like every one human on this planet is.

Dean Winchester · 12-10-2003, 06:06 PM

I personally think the problem gays have with this show is the same problem that a lot of African-American's had with Cosby Show in the 80's. It seems like everything is "straight-washed" on this show and that's probably the prob a lot of us have.

With shows like Queer As Folk, Six Feet Under and Boy Meets Boy on television, W&G is hardly "groundbreaking gay television". Plus I don't like the way how Will actually makes sure Grace approves of men he's dating. I've encountered men like that in real life and because of this, I refuse to date guys who let their hags tell them who they can and cannot date, unless their hags are married and/or have kids... because they aren't as bad as the single ones are, since I know a lot of those type of girls who secretly have crushes on their gay friends and would rather have them single than in love (speaking from personal experience... not a generalization)

Superbatboy · 12-14-2003, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I personally think the problem gays have with this show is the same problem that a lot of African-American's had with Cosby Show in the 80's. It seems like everything is "straight-washed" on this show and that's probably the prob a lot of us have.

Funny how you say that about The Cosby Show. It's true that a lot of black people complained that the show was "too white", but I don't know one black person around my age (21) that didn't grow up watching that show with their parents. So really it goes to show you that the ones complaining the most are the ones watching the most.

call.me.karen · 01-14-2004, 01:40 AM

i love the episode where jack and will have to haul karen's mom in law to the bar with them and when she realizes that will and jack are gay "oh my god...i'm a f a g hag!"

jayman75 · 02-15-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79

With shows like Queer As Folk, Six Feet Under and Boy Meets Boy on television, W&G is hardly "groundbreaking gay television". Plus I don't like the way how Will actually makes sure Grace approves of men he's dating. I've encountered men like that in real life and because of this, I refuse to date guys who let their hags tell them who they can and cannot date, unless their hags are married and/or have kids... because they aren't as bad as the single ones are, since I know a lot of those type of girls who secretly have crushes on their gay friends and would rather have them single than in love (speaking from personal experience... not a generalization)

A couple things here...

1. QAF, SFU and BMB came after W&G. It did break ground for those shows. Granted, something with a gay theme would have appeared on primetime network TV eventually, but someone had to get the thing started.

2. The comment about Grace liking Will's men is a character issue. He still isn't over his last guy that he was with for several years. As confident as Will is about work, his friends, his humor, etc., he has no dating self-confidence at all.

Someone asked about this...

3. "Hag" is used because is rhymes with an improper nickname of gays. 'Nuf said.

spectrum · 03-08-2004, 08:59 AM

Please just leave those narrow minded people alone. Their unreasonable fear to gay people will not change them. What we, gay people, need to do just stay in positive attitudes, don't bitch, and leave the drama just for the Hollywood. Remember, we don't request for sympathy nor we need one. Being gay is not a crime and not a bad influence either. Let's don't encourage hates and start to care to each other. I hope Will & Grace sitcom will help more people to be more open minded. Thank you.

Peace

07-09-2003, 03:36 AM	#1
bjorkish Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jul 09, 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2	Gay... I hear so many people complain about the way that the show portrays gay people. I am gay and I really don't have a problem with it at all. The people who say that are those small-minded ones. The ones that I can't stand. I think the way gay people are portrayed is fine. And I can't figure out what the big deal is about it.

07-12-2003, 10:39 PM	#2
Will and Grace Fanatic be happy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 15, 2002 Location: seattle, washington Posts: 2,746	People complain way to much. There are actually some gay men who do find comfort in their female friends. They are just protraying a good friendship that a man and woman can have without it involving sex.
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09-01-2003, 12:29 AM	#4
BlueEyesKid A Domestic Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 04, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 152	I know! Everyone says thinks that gay people should be like Jack instead of Will, that gay people don't "act" like Will...well, just like hetero's, homosexuals come in all shapes, sizes, colours, and all are unique. The stereotypical Gay person is Jack, well Will is more of an eye opener...in my opinion.
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10-21-2003, 01:06 PM	#5
spookystarbuck Kiss my Ass! Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 21, 2003 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 59	I know, I do know quite a few gay men who are like Jack however the lad I know who is one of my best mates is TOTALLY straight but I swear, our relationship is just like Will&Grace's. That's partly why I like the programme, it is funny to see what WE do. lol.
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03-08-2004, 08:59 AM	#15
spectrum Member Forum Cub Join Date: Mar 07, 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 2	Let them be closed minded Please just leave those narrow minded people alone. Their unreasonable fear to gay people will not change them. What we, gay people, need to do just stay in positive attitudes, don't bitch, and leave the drama just for the Hollywood. Remember, we don't request for sympathy nor we need one. Being gay is not a crime and not a bad influence either. Let's don't encourage hates and start to care to each other. I hope Will & Grace sitcom will help more people to be more open minded. Thank you. Peace

10-24-2003, 01:02 AM	#6
Moonshadow Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 22, 2003 Location: Over the Rainbow Posts: 332	I don't have a problem with it either.

10-24-2003, 08:14 AM	#7
spookystarbuck Kiss my Ass! Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 21, 2003 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 59	by the way, you'll probably know more than me but why do female friends of a gay male get called "hags"? Please respond!

10-26-2003, 06:35 PM	#9
spookystarbuck Kiss my Ass! Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 21, 2003 Location: ENGLAND! Posts: 59	No, seriously. I wasn't joking. I really don't know and I got called one today by one of my mates. I take it it's a derrogitary (sp?) thing then?

12-07-2003, 07:58 PM	#10
Jordan Shirley Manson!!! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 01, 2001 Location: The state where Garbage records their albums -- Wisconsin! Posts: 1,459	Ignorant people just don't want to see gay people on tv. Period. There is nothing wrong with the way the characters are portrayed -- every one is entirely different, just like every one human on this planet is.

12-10-2003, 06:06 PM	#11
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	I personally think the problem gays have with this show is the same problem that a lot of African-American's had with Cosby Show in the 80's. It seems like everything is "straight-washed" on this show and that's probably the prob a lot of us have. With shows like Queer As Folk, Six Feet Under and Boy Meets Boy on television, W&G is hardly "groundbreaking gay television". Plus I don't like the way how Will actually makes sure Grace approves of men he's dating. I've encountered men like that in real life and because of this, I refuse to date guys who let their hags tell them who they can and cannot date, unless their hags are married and/or have kids... because they aren't as bad as the single ones are, since I know a lot of those type of girls who secretly have crushes on their gay friends and would rather have them single than in love (speaking from personal experience... not a generalization)

01-14-2004, 01:40 AM	#13
call.me.karen Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 14, 2004 Location: MINNESOTA Posts: 8	i love the episode where jack and will have to haul karen's mom in law to the bar with them and when she realizes that will and jack are gay "oh my god...i'm a f a g hag!"