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#1 Stack Fan · 07-02-2003, 02:07 AM

http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSFeatures9909/01_west.html

This article is about the guy suspected in the Blind River killings. Although it doesn't mention Jacqueline McAllister, it shows pictures of the suspect, and also shows the police sketches. Just thought I'd share what I found....!

#1 Stack Fan · 07-02-2003, 02:10 AM

Make sure you check out the guy's eyes in the picture where he is in his police uniform. The eyes are just as Gordon McAllister described on Unsolved Mysteries. He would look pretty darn close to that SPOOKY computer model if he took off his uniform and put on a blonde wig....EERIE!!

Allierain · 07-05-2003, 01:47 AM

I remember the 3D image they generated of the suspect based on the eyewitness description. West is the exact image of the suspect.

mercy1825 · 05-04-2004, 04:04 PM

It does mention Jackie McAllister! This guy did it! I am so glad it seems they have apprehended this suspect! This article is fantastic thanks for posting it!

mastamatt · 05-20-2005, 06:45 PM

Sorry I keep responding to old posts, but...is the Blind River Killings on the bizarre murders dvd?

mercy1825 · 05-20-2005, 11:02 PM

No, unfortunately it is not.

Birdman275 · 03-28-2007, 04:35 PM

I just got off the phone with a Ontario Provincal Police officer. The Blind River Killing suspect has not been caught. It has been said that Ronald Glenn West commited these murders. But as of 3-27-07 there is still a $50 000 CAD reward for the murderer. I will post further updates as I get them! Ronald West was convicted of 2 sex slayings in Toronto that occured in 1970. The suspect in Blind River was about 30 years of age. That would mean Ronald West was a murderer at the age of 9?

Kane · 03-28-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman275

I just got off the phone with a Ontario Provincal Police officer. The Blind River Killing suspect has not been caught. It has been said that Ronald Glenn West commited these murders. But as of 3-27-07 there is still a $50 000 CAD reward for the murderer. I will post further updates as I get them! Ronald West was convicted of 2 sex slayings in Toronto that occured in 1970. The suspect in Blind River was about 30 years of age. That would mean Ronald West was a murderer at the age of 9?

According to published reports, Ronald Glenn West was born in 1947. This means he turned 23 in 1970 (the year in which he murdered two women), and that he turned 44 in 1991 (the year in which the Blind River rest stop killings occurred). If West is the Blind River rest stop killer, then Gord McAllister may very well have erroneously guessed the killer's age. That is understandable, since many thirtysomethings are mistaken for fortysomethings and vice versa; when a suspect's age is being described, it is typically a guess based on how old or young they appeared to be. Was the Blind River rest stop killer 30 years old when he killed Jackie McAllister and Brian Major in June of 1991? Only the killer himself knows for sure.

Birdman275 · 03-29-2007, 02:29 AM

That maybe a very good presumption, that Gord McAllister could have guessed the wrong age. But never the less the suspect is still on the lam. The constable said he would check out the Ronald West theory. I mean if Ronald West did these crimes do you not think Gord McAllister could have identfied him? West first came up as a suspect in 1999. The main reason he is suspect is cause the guns used in the 1970 murders were the same type as the 1991 crime. Anybody know where to get a picture of Ronald West?

Telomerase · 03-31-2007, 07:04 PM

I just looked at the Biography channel web site and it says he is being featured on a show called Crime Stories tomorrow at 7pm. april 1.

Birdman275 · 05-08-2007, 02:45 PM

Hello, I just got off the phone with an O.P.P. officer today, and he did confirm this suspect is on the lam. Ronald Glenn West is not the killer. This man is on the loose! So dont be stoping by rest stops, this SOB could be there. Scary thought after 16 years he still has avoided capture!

tas121694 · 03-30-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mercy1825

It does mention Jackie McAllister! This guy did it! I am so glad it seems they have apprehended this suspect! This article is fantastic thanks for posting it!

Unfortunately, I do not believe West was thee perpetrator of the murders committed at the Blind River Rest Stop in 1991. Considering how much this case on Unsolved Mysteries scared me, I wish I could assure myself it was Ronald Glenn West, but the psychological and criminological profiles do not match.

Please correct me if any of my details (especially dates) are wrong, although it is likely that despite what you say, my opinion will mostly remain the same.

Consider this:

-Most violent criminals, such as West, continue committing criminal acts until being prevented to (i.e. being caught). Yet, if West committed the BRRS murders, he had waited over 20 years to commit a crime since his first crimes.

-The 1970 slayings of the Toronto women were very, very premeditated and methodical. West thoroughly planned these assaults, rapes and murders. Meanwhile, the BRRS murders were incredibly random, and unpremeditated; the type of behavior that normally indicates a psychotic break or schizophrenia.

-In the '70 cases, West did not just murder, but also sexually assaulted. Why did he not murder Gord McAllister and then sexually assault Jackie before murdering her?

-As far as I know, no record of West having owned/operated a blue van has ever been found.

I wish West did it, but it just seems to me as if the CRMP knew that West, an incredibly violent murderer, lived in the Blind River area at the time, and needed a bit of a scapegoat to calm the local hysteria.

Thoughts?

FanfromES · 04-01-2009, 11:55 AM

I dont know how West became a suspect of the Blind River Stop Killings, but IMO these reasons arent enough to rule him out as a suspect:

-Most violent criminals, such as West, continue committing criminal acts until being prevented to (i.e. being caught). Yet, if West committed the BRRS murders, he had waited over 20 years to commit a crime since his first crimes.

---How do we know he didnt continue killing all those years?,

-The 1970 slayings of the Toronto women were very, very premeditated and methodical. West thoroughly planned these assaults, rapes and murders. Meanwhile, the BRRS murders were incredibly random, and unpremeditated; the type of behavior that normally indicates a psychotic break or schizophrenia.

---A 'random' killing is not always associated with a psychotic break of any kind, sometimes all it takes is proper conditions for a killing, like a quiet lonely place where the killer feels safe to do his deeds.

-In the '70 cases, West did not just murder, but also sexually assaulted. Why did he not murder Gord McAllister and then sexually assault Jackie before murdering her?

---Most of sex murderers has a fetish of some kind that defines his potencial victims. Maybe he wasnt attracted to Ms. McAllister due to her age.

-As far as I know, no record of West having owned/operated a blue van has ever been found.

---Maybe it was robbed

Thats just my opinion, they must have better information about West to clear him out of this case.

Mastermind · 04-01-2009, 01:02 PM

I'm not sure if it was ever specified, but did Gordon Mcallister confirm whether the suspect had an American or Canadian accent?

TracyLynnS · 04-01-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

I'm not sure if it was ever specified, but did Gordon Mcallister confirm whether the suspect had an American or Canadian accent?

The official unsolved site doesn't say... I'm going to check another source.

Edit: Okay, the McAllisters were from Lindsay, Ontario. Gord McAllister spoke with barely a Canadian, accent, imo. You sort of really had to pay attention to catch it. In the re-enactment, the perp didn't really say enough for me to determine what kind of accent he had. But that was just an actor. Gord never mentioned if the perp spoke with an american or canadian accent.

Personally, I thought that the composite looked a bit like Oba Chandler, although this was nothing like his regular MO. The canadian rest stop killings happend in 1991, about a year before Oba Chandler was arrested for the Rogers murders of 1989.

It's interesting to note that the authorities could not account for Oba Chandler's whereabouts from 1990 through the end of Septemeber 1991. The rest stop killings happened in June 1991, well before the authorities had located him.

IMO, his 1979 mugshot looks like the rest stop killer composite from 12 years later. But he has worn his hair long and short over the years. I don't know what he looked like in 1991. During this time, authorities tracked him from FL to OH, and at one point during this time frame, they thought he was in toronto, which is an hour and a half from lindsay, ontario, where the McAllister's lived. I can't find any details on exactly where the Blind River Rest Stop is, except that the Blind River is in the province of Ontario, which is pretty large.

Anway, the similarities I see are the chin, shape of the shadow area under the lower lip, forehead, area of the upper lip under the nose and lip, general face shape, flatness of the cheeks, almost exact hair style and color of the 1979 mug shot, and so on.

Link to Oba Chandler pics: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DG

07-02-2003, 02:07 AM	#1
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07-02-2003, 02:10 AM	#2
#1 Stack Fan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 16, 2003 Location: Home of the Mardi Gras Posts: 22	I forgot..... Make sure you check out the guy's eyes in the picture where he is in his police uniform. The eyes are just as Gordon McAllister described on Unsolved Mysteries. He would look pretty darn close to that SPOOKY computer model if he took off his uniform and put on a blonde wig....EERIE!!

07-05-2003, 01:47 AM	#3
Allierain Forum Old Fart Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 30, 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 509	I remember the 3D image they generated of the suspect based on the eyewitness description. West is the exact image of the suspect.

05-04-2004, 04:04 PM	#4
mercy1825 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 04, 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 176	It does mention Jackie McAllister! This guy did it! I am so glad it seems they have apprehended this suspect! This article is fantastic thanks for posting it!

05-20-2005, 06:45 PM	#5
mastamatt Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 18, 2005 Posts: 40	Sorry I keep responding to old posts, but...is the Blind River Killings on the bizarre murders dvd?

05-20-2005, 11:02 PM	#6
mercy1825 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 04, 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 176	No, unfortunately it is not.

03-28-2007, 04:35 PM	#7
Birdman275 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 19, 2007 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 19	I just got off the phone with a Ontario Provincal Police officer. The Blind River Killing suspect has not been caught. It has been said that Ronald Glenn West commited these murders. But as of 3-27-07 there is still a $50 000 CAD reward for the murderer. I will post further updates as I get them! Ronald West was convicted of 2 sex slayings in Toronto that occured in 1970. The suspect in Blind River was about 30 years of age. That would mean Ronald West was a murderer at the age of 9?

03-29-2007, 02:29 AM	#9
Birdman275 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 19, 2007 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 19	That maybe a very good presumption, that Gord McAllister could have guessed the wrong age. But never the less the suspect is still on the lam. The constable said he would check out the Ronald West theory. I mean if Ronald West did these crimes do you not think Gord McAllister could have identfied him? West first came up as a suspect in 1999. The main reason he is suspect is cause the guns used in the 1970 murders were the same type as the 1991 crime. Anybody know where to get a picture of Ronald West?

03-31-2007, 07:04 PM	#10
Telomerase Ed.Murphy Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 23, 2006 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 8	I just looked at the Biography channel web site and it says he is being featured on a show called Crime Stories tomorrow at 7pm. april 1.

05-08-2007, 02:45 PM	#11
Birdman275 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 19, 2007 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 19	Hello, I just got off the phone with an O.P.P. officer today, and he did confirm this suspect is on the lam. Ronald Glenn West is not the killer. This man is on the loose! So dont be stoping by rest stops, this SOB could be there. Scary thought after 16 years he still has avoided capture!

04-01-2009, 11:55 AM	#13
FanfromES televidente Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 06, 2002 Location: el salvador central america Posts: 161	I dont know how West became a suspect of the Blind River Stop Killings, but IMO these reasons arent enough to rule him out as a suspect: -Most violent criminals, such as West, continue committing criminal acts until being prevented to (i.e. being caught). Yet, if West committed the BRRS murders, he had waited over 20 years to commit a crime since his first crimes. ---How do we know he didnt continue killing all those years?, -The 1970 slayings of the Toronto women were very, very premeditated and methodical. West thoroughly planned these assaults, rapes and murders. Meanwhile, the BRRS murders were incredibly random, and unpremeditated; the type of behavior that normally indicates a psychotic break or schizophrenia. ---A 'random' killing is not always associated with a psychotic break of any kind, sometimes all it takes is proper conditions for a killing, like a quiet lonely place where the killer feels safe to do his deeds. -In the '70 cases, West did not just murder, but also sexually assaulted. Why did he not murder Gord McAllister and then sexually assault Jackie before murdering her? ---Most of sex murderers has a fetish of some kind that defines his potencial victims. Maybe he wasnt attracted to Ms. McAllister due to her age. -As far as I know, no record of West having owned/operated a blue van has ever been found. ---Maybe it was robbed Thats just my opinion, they must have better information about West to clear him out of this case.

04-01-2009, 01:02 PM	#14
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	I'm not sure if it was ever specified, but did Gordon Mcallister confirm whether the suspect had an American or Canadian accent?