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TVFactFan · 06-01-2003, 10:58 AM

Does anyone know if opening and closing credits of a sitcom are modified once they go into syndication? The reason i'm asking is because I noticed that my local station showed diffferent versions of Three's Company. I was also told that the very first time the Jeffersons aired on CBS, there was a longer version of the opening and closing credits. So if someone knows of any show that has different opening and closing credits once they were in syndication please let me know.

Adamantium · 06-02-2003, 08:00 PM

I bought a tape of "Taxi" and the theme song was longer than it is on TV. Of course, "I Love Lucy" had to change it's theme song for syndication since the original theme is an animated Lucy and Desi running around a Phillip Morris Cigarette box. The "Boy Meets World" theme song of the first, second and third seasons have been replaced by the fourth season's theme.

The Obsolete Man · 06-02-2003, 08:25 PM

Yes. Definitely Yes.

Bewitched, for Example... all the Dick York credits are from 1966 (even the episodes from '64 and '65), the Dick Sargent credits all from 1969, seemingly because there were products or sponsors in the credits at some point.

The Monkees entire syndicated run used the second season opening theme (and didn't have the little Kellogg's boxes beside the boys names in the closing credits).

The second season opening was used on the first season of the Partridge Family.

...Screen Gems edits the openings of their shows a lot.

At one point, I believe the Dick Van Dyke Show was run in syndication with the ottoman tripping opening covering the First season also.

TVFactFan · 06-02-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by TVAdam
I bought a tape of "Taxi" and the theme song was longer than it is on TV. Of course, "I Love Lucy" had to change it's theme song for syndication since the original theme is an animated Lucy and Desi running around a Phillip Morris Cigarette box. The "Boy Meets World" theme song of the first, second and third seasons have been replaced by the fourth season's theme.

So basically more video footage was seen in the opening credits when you bought the taxi tape?

Adamantium · 06-02-2003, 10:31 PM

It looked the same. The cab was driving over the bridge, but the reruns it has, for example, Marilu Henner Tony Danza Randall Carver. Whereas in the tape it had Marilu Henner (space) Tony Danza (space) Randall Carver (space). It was too long. Now I didn't notice any scenes added to the tape that N@N cut out, maybe cutting out the theme was enough, I don't know.

treky · 06-03-2003, 12:50 AM

they edit the opening & closing credits of shows, huh? I NEVER knew that! Boy, colorized movies, editing of TV shows and the credits, a million commercials. Is NOTHING sacred on TV anymore!!!

treky · 06-03-2003, 03:33 AM

theres a part of "The Beverly Hillbillies" opening that was edited out a long time ago. When they're driving down the street, just after ther closing credits stop, Jed points to something on the side & says something, & they all turn & look-but they don't show what they're looking at-it was a billboard advertising Kellogs cereals (one of the shows sponsors).

TVFactFan · 06-03-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by treky
they edit the opening & closing credits of shows, huh? I NEVER knew that! Boy, colorized movies, editing of TV shows and the credits, a million commercials. Is NOTHING sacred on TV anymore!!!

Yeah they sure do, I never new that my local stations edited out parts of the Three's Company Opening Credits. N@N shows the longer version of the opening credits and my local station showed the shorter version.

Sean Snow · 06-03-2003, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON

Yeah they sure do, I never new that my local stations edited out parts of the Three's Company Opening Credits. N@N shows the longer version of the opening credits and my local station showed the shorter version.

Yes, shorter versions of a show's opening are often used in syndication. I remember seeing Family Ties in reruns on a local station - they aired a horrible, shorter version of it's theme.

TVFactFan · 06-03-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Snow

Yes, shorter versions of a show's opening are often used in syndication. I remember seeing Family Ties in reruns on a local station - they aired a horrible, shorter version of it's theme.

I'm trying to find out if a scene was deleted out of the 1975 Jeffersons opening credits when George and Weezie are in the cab.

Commander Benson · 06-09-2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by treky
theres a part of "The Beverly Hillbillies" opening that was edited out a long time ago. When they're driving down the street, just after ther closing credits stop, Jed points to something on the side & says something, & they all turn & look-but they don't show what they're looking at-it was a billboard advertising Kellogs cereals (one of the shows sponsors).

I remember that very well, and you're correct--the Clampetts' truck passes a huge billboard advertising Kellogg's cereals (usually Corn Flakes).

The theme song continues during this last bit, as well:

"So come along and visit with the Clampett family,
as they learn the simple pleasures of the hills of Beverly;

"And that includes the products of the sponsor of the week:
the best to you each morning, fresh from Battle Creek."

My wife is younger than me; she caught me singing that final tag once and accused me of making it up.

Commander Benson

ABC1 · 06-09-2003, 08:45 PM

The reruns of The Golden Girls on Lifetime have had their opening credits cut so that some of the scenes of the cast were cut out. I hate that.

And of course, on Lifetime, you can't even SEE the closing credits as they originally aired on NBC. I HATE the way closing credits have been destroyed by networks just wanting to cram more ads into the show.
I know the only reason they do that is to make more money, but seeing those in program ads ticks me off as well. No wonder DVD's get to be so popular. I don't think I'm the only person who enjoys watching the closing credits of tv shows.

treky · 06-10-2003, 02:13 AM

no, you're not. I enjoy them too, and also get REALLY, REALLY MAD

when stations and networks do it! But, at least N@N & TV LAND don't do it all the time.

But, what REALLY, REALLY, REALY ticks me off is the way PAX treats the closing credits of "Bonnanza". They not only shrink them down so you can't even see them, and put them on the bottom half of the screen, but they also fade them so yo can barely see them at all! THEN, they shoot them by so fast, it's like they're being shot out of a machine gun, or something. I just hope that TV LAND doesn't do that when they start showing it. (I think they start showing it in Sept.)

Jenya · 06-10-2003, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by ABC1
The reruns of The Golden Girls on Lifetime have had their opening credits cut so that some of the scenes of the cast were cut out. I hate that.
And of course, on Lifetime, you can't even SEE the closing credits as they originally aired on NBC. I HATE the way closing credits have been destroyed by networks just wanting to cram more ads into the show.
I know the only reason they do that is to make more money, but seeing those in program ads ticks me off as well. No wonder DVD's get to be so popular. I don't think I'm the only person who enjoys watching the closing credits of tv shows.

We get that show on Prime in Canada. Lucky for us the music and credits are left intact. I would complain to the TV station for doing that.
I really hate it when they do that to movies on TV. They do it so fast, and split the TV screen, that you can't even read anything!!!

treky · 06-13-2003, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by Jenya
We get that show on Prime in Canada. Lucky for us the music and credits are left intact. I would complain to the TV station for doing that.
I really hate it when they do that to movies on TV. They do it so fast, and split the TV screen, that you can't even read anything!!!

I seriously doubt complaining to the station will do any good, unfortunately.

Also, sometimes the distributor purposley cuts some things, shortens certain scenes, etc., then sometimes the station will cut a couple more things to fit in more commercials. And since commercials help pay for the shows, unfortunatly, it's only going to get worse as time goes on.
In the 70s, a 30 minute show ran for 25-26 mins., minus commercials. Now, a 30 minute show runs for 22 mins., minus commrcials!!!

06-01-2003, 10:58 AM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,101	Question about the Opening and Closing credits for All Sitcoms Does anyone know if opening and closing credits of a sitcom are modified once they go into syndication? The reason i'm asking is because I noticed that my local station showed diffferent versions of Three's Company. I was also told that the very first time the Jeffersons aired on CBS, there was a longer version of the opening and closing credits. So if someone knows of any show that has different opening and closing credits once they were in syndication please let me know.

06-02-2003, 08:25 PM	#3
The Obsolete Man Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 18, 2000 Location: Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, Earth Prime Posts: 567	Yes. Definitely Yes. Bewitched, for Example... all the Dick York credits are from 1966 (even the episodes from '64 and '65), the Dick Sargent credits all from 1969, seemingly because there were products or sponsors in the credits at some point. The Monkees entire syndicated run used the second season opening theme (and didn't have the little Kellogg's boxes beside the boys names in the closing credits). The second season opening was used on the first season of the Partridge Family. ...Screen Gems edits the openings of their shows a lot. At one point, I believe the Dick Van Dyke Show was run in syndication with the ottoman tripping opening covering the First season also.
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06-03-2003, 12:50 AM	#6
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	they edit the opening & closing credits of shows, huh? I NEVER knew that! Boy, colorized movies, editing of TV shows and the credits, a million commercials. Is NOTHING sacred on TV anymore!!!
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06-02-2003, 08:00 PM	#2
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,839	I bought a tape of "Taxi" and the theme song was longer than it is on TV. Of course, "I Love Lucy" had to change it's theme song for syndication since the original theme is an animated Lucy and Desi running around a Phillip Morris Cigarette box. The "Boy Meets World" theme song of the first, second and third seasons have been replaced by the fourth season's theme.

06-02-2003, 10:31 PM	#5
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,839	It looked the same. The cab was driving over the bridge, but the reruns it has, for example, Marilu Henner Tony Danza Randall Carver. Whereas in the tape it had Marilu Henner (space) Tony Danza (space) Randall Carver (space). It was too long. Now I didn't notice any scenes added to the tape that N@N cut out, maybe cutting out the theme was enough, I don't know.

06-03-2003, 03:33 AM	#7
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	theres a part of "The Beverly Hillbillies" opening that was edited out a long time ago. When they're driving down the street, just after ther closing credits stop, Jed points to something on the side & says something, & they all turn & look-but they don't show what they're looking at-it was a billboard advertising Kellogs cereals (one of the shows sponsors).

06-09-2003, 08:45 PM	#12
ABC1 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 04, 2001 Location: Champaign, Illinois Posts: 279	The reruns of The Golden Girls on Lifetime have had their opening credits cut so that some of the scenes of the cast were cut out. I hate that. And of course, on Lifetime, you can't even SEE the closing credits as they originally aired on NBC. I HATE the way closing credits have been destroyed by networks just wanting to cram more ads into the show. I know the only reason they do that is to make more money, but seeing those in program ads ticks me off as well. No wonder DVD's get to be so popular. I don't think I'm the only person who enjoys watching the closing credits of tv shows.

06-10-2003, 02:13 AM	#13
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	no, you're not. I enjoy them too, and also get REALLY, REALLY MAD when stations and networks do it! But, at least N@N & TV LAND don't do it all the time. But, what REALLY, REALLY, REALY ticks me off is the way PAX treats the closing credits of "Bonnanza". They not only shrink them down so you can't even see them, and put them on the bottom half of the screen, but they also fade them so yo can barely see them at all! THEN, they shoot them by so fast, it's like they're being shot out of a machine gun, or something. I just hope that TV LAND doesn't do that when they start showing it. (I think they start showing it in Sept.)