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TVFactFan · 05-23-2003, 02:19 AM

Always try to purchase episodes or tapes that are not that expensive. No more than $20. I just read a post from a guy who is out of $150 and didn't get his tapes. Please whatever you do never never send someone off this board that much money. It's too risky. Most of my purchases have always been $15 and under. I think someone should only send $150 to a company not a person off this board. Hopefully everyone takes this post seriously.

Agent 13 · 05-23-2003, 11:21 AM

Hind site is always 20/20, isn't it? That's why I wish more traders/sellers took PayPal, where there's accountability. In the case of sending money orders, checks, or even cash, it's your word against theirs. Someone can get blackballed because of mere words, but remember this: what goes around comes around in both good and bad. "Whatsoever ye sow, that shall ye also reap."

Nanny Fine · 05-23-2003, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Jeneric
Hind site is always 20/20, isn't it? That's why I wish more traders/sellers took PayPal, where there's accountability. In the case of sending money orders, checks, or even cash, it's your word against theirs. Someone can get blackballed because of mere words, but remember this: what goes around comes around in both good and bad. "Whatsoever ye sow, that shall ye also reap."

Not everyone is a bad seller but I agree with Jeneric. I wish everyone used PayPal. Pay with PayPal, use Delivery Confirmation on your packages (which I do for everything anyhow) and you are covered.

Agent 13 · 05-23-2003, 02:31 PM

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use Delivery Confirmation on your packages (which I do for everything anyhow) and you are covered.

Using Delivery Confirmation only covers you once you've mailed the proof (post office dated slip) to the recipient. Until that actually transpires, the sender has no leg to stand on, and it will make any customer doubtful and quite possibly obnoxious.

It is very sad when we even have to use Delivery Confirmation so much these days. Too bad this is necessary, but such is the way of the world today.

dave w. · 05-23-2003, 05:10 PM

i always use confirmation for this reason when sending a package to someone. - because when i order something and the seller sends a confirmation # i can feel secure its on the way. and by going online i can track it also. then if it never arrives i can say it was lost and not the seller never sending it. i also want people who buy or trade with me to feel that same security !! I have a brother that works in the p.o and he said it was terrible how many people make a living from mail fraud every year. And the bad thing is that they think they're in the right and that we're in the wrong !!

Agent 13 · 05-25-2003, 09:49 AM

The bottom line, is that it is far more important for sellers to be honest than for buyers to beware. If the sellers are honest, then buyers have nothing to fear. It is putting the cart before the horse to put the blame on the customer rather than on the root cause. However, warning folks to not send so much money to someone for tapes or anything else for that matter, preventive medicine, if you will, is wise only in that honesty is a fading characteristic. Is it wrong to be trusting? Of course not. Then let's not blame the customer, especially when so much time has elapsed.

In the case where a package has truly been lost, an honest seller would not hesitate to forward the postal dated delivery confirmation slip out to the customer to set the customer's mind at rest, proving that the package was actually mailed; however, since I have shipped and received literally thousands of packages over the last four years via eBay, Half.com, and Alibris (on-line bookstore), I know what I am talking about when I state that it is extremely rare for a package to get lost in transit. I have only had it happen to me once, and the circumstances were very suspicious.

Incidently, postal workers admit quite freely that packages with only delivery confirmation (no insurance) cannot be actually located by the Post Office in any way, shape, or form.

dave w. · 05-25-2003, 10:12 AM

i agree 110%. I also state that keeping in touch with your customers by sending confirmation , by letting them know how their order is going and being friendly throughout the transaction makes a great difference in business. Also if i dont have time or too many irons in the fire, i won't accept an order or ask the customer to wait , else notify them a time limit of processing. A good conscience to me means more than anything else, and being honest is fore front in having one. I know then sleep will come easy !!

teboomer · 05-26-2003, 02:21 AM

My aunt works at the post office so I KNOW packages get LOST by USPS ALL THE TIME! I have had SEVERAL packages from Ebay purchases LOST by USPS over the past few years. Packages DO get lost by USPS and packages are NOT always scanned when the package needs to be scanned.

mcjohnc · 05-26-2003, 03:16 AM

I'd have to agree with Teboomer, I've had SEVERAL money orders and packages over the past 3 years from sellers on Ebay & from people on THESE BOARDS that swear they sent the tapes and they provide delivery confirmation numbers and the packages are lost all of he time. I WORK at USPS so I KNOW how UNRELIABLE USPS is and how USPS loses packages, money orders and mail all of the time! I've personally had packages going from CA to NY that were sent PRIORITY that took a MONTH to get to NY from California.

TVFactFan · 05-26-2003, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by mcjohnc
I'd have to agree with Teboomer, I've had SEVERAL money orders and packages over the past 3 years from sellers on Ebay & from people on THESE BOARDS that swear they sent the tapes and they provide delivery confirmation numbers and the packages are lost all of he time. I WORK at USPS so I KNOW how UNRELIABLE USPS is and how USPS loses packages, money orders and mail all of the time! I've personally had packages going from CA to NY that were sent PRIORITY that took a MONTH to get to NY from California.

Which is why i decided to only purchase ebay items for people on the eastcoast instead of the westcoast. But when Tina sent me a tape from seattle on a Saturday it surprisingly arrived on monday morning. But on ebay, when i ordered things from people in CA, either I never received it or it took forever

Agent 13 · 05-26-2003, 10:32 AM

I do not doubt that packages do get lost by the USPS, though extremely rarely; however, when delivery confirmation is used, the number will register on USPS on-line .

When I inquired at the post office about this situation a month ago, they told me that it was never mailed if the delivery confirmation # perpetually states (for more than a few days) the following:

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There is no record of that item. If it was mailed recently, information may not yet be available. Please try again later.

The postal worker told me that I needed to ask Tina to mail me the postal dated delivery confirmation form to prove that what she was telling me was the truth, which he didn't believe himself.

In an April 23rd email Tina stated:

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I told you that I would replace the taps if they got lost. Although right now I'm in the middle of a 21 tape order.

and I can only hope at this point.

Tina is both teboomer and mcjohnc though by the time you read this she may have edited her post to say otherwise.

Evita Peron · 05-26-2003, 12:05 PM

I've traded with a person on this board before and got the tape. But the quality was not that good. So there are some honest traders around. At least I got the tape.

Crystal

TVFactFan · 05-26-2003, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by robert-reed-fan
I've traded with a person on this board before and got the tape. But the quality was not that good. So there are some honest traders around. At least I got the tape.

Crystal

Sometimes i will not have a problem with quality of a show if it was short-lived because most short lived shows are hard to find. I ordered a show that aired only one month and i could barely hear the show or see it clear because at the time there wasn;'t not cable in a lot of households and it was only antennas-LOL

mcjohnc · 05-26-2003, 12:15 PM

If the Delivery confirmation was not SCANNED by the USPS employee then it will NOT show up in the system and happens ALL THE TIME! so if it was not scanned at the post office it would not showup ONLINE OR at the post office, which is probably what happened with your package because I have sent Tina $300 at one time for tapes and I had no problem receiving my tapes.

TVFactFan · 05-26-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by mcjohnc
If the Delivery confirmation was not SCANNED by the USPS employee then it will NOT show up in the system and happens ALL THE TIME! so if it was not scanned at the post office it would not showup ONLINE OR at the post office, which is probably what happened with your pacage because I have sent Tina $300 at one time for tapes and I had no problem receiving my tapes.

$300? Sounds like Tina is the Tape trader of the year-LOL

05-23-2003, 02:19 AM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,113	Important Advice for all people purchasing Tapes/Episodes from people on this board Always try to purchase episodes or tapes that are not that expensive. No more than $20. I just read a post from a guy who is out of $150 and didn't get his tapes. Please whatever you do never never send someone off this board that much money. It's too risky. Most of my purchases have always been $15 and under. I think someone should only send $150 to a company not a person off this board. Hopefully everyone takes this post seriously.

05-23-2003, 11:21 AM	#2
Agent 13 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 02, 2003 Location: Good ol' USA Posts: 1,510	Hind site is always 20/20, isn't it? That's why I wish more traders/sellers took PayPal, where there's accountability. In the case of sending money orders, checks, or even cash, it's your word against theirs. Someone can get blackballed because of mere words, but remember this: what goes around comes around in both good and bad. "Whatsoever ye sow, that shall ye also reap."
	__________________ It often requires more courage to dare to do right than to fear to do wrong. Abraham Lincoln

05-23-2003, 05:10 PM	#5
dave w. Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 16, 2003 Location: kentucky Posts: 188	TRUE i always use confirmation for this reason when sending a package to someone. - because when i order something and the seller sends a confirmation # i can feel secure its on the way. and by going online i can track it also. then if it never arrives i can say it was lost and not the seller never sending it. i also want people who buy or trade with me to feel that same security !! I have a brother that works in the p.o and he said it was terrible how many people make a living from mail fraud every year. And the bad thing is that they think they're in the right and that we're in the wrong !!

05-25-2003, 09:49 AM	#6
Agent 13 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 02, 2003 Location: Good ol' USA Posts: 1,510	Honesty is the best policy The bottom line, is that it is far more important for sellers to be honest than for buyers to beware. If the sellers are honest, then buyers have nothing to fear. It is putting the cart before the horse to put the blame on the customer rather than on the root cause. However, warning folks to not send so much money to someone for tapes or anything else for that matter, preventive medicine, if you will, is wise only in that honesty is a fading characteristic. Is it wrong to be trusting? Of course not. Then let's not blame the customer, especially when so much time has elapsed. In the case where a package has truly been lost, an honest seller would not hesitate to forward the postal dated delivery confirmation slip out to the customer to set the customer's mind at rest, proving that the package was actually mailed; however, since I have shipped and received literally thousands of packages over the last four years via eBay, Half.com, and Alibris (on-line bookstore), I know what I am talking about when I state that it is extremely rare for a package to get lost in transit. I have only had it happen to me once, and the circumstances were very suspicious. Incidently, postal workers admit quite freely that packages with only delivery confirmation (no insurance) cannot be actually located by the Post Office in any way, shape, or form.
	Last edited by Agent 13; 05-25-2003 at 02:15 PM.

05-25-2003, 10:12 AM	#7
dave w. Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 16, 2003 Location: kentucky Posts: 188	keeping in touch. i agree 110%. I also state that keeping in touch with your customers by sending confirmation , by letting them know how their order is going and being friendly throughout the transaction makes a great difference in business. Also if i dont have time or too many irons in the fire, i won't accept an order or ask the customer to wait , else notify them a time limit of processing. A good conscience to me means more than anything else, and being honest is fore front in having one. I know then sleep will come easy !!

05-26-2003, 02:21 AM	#8
teboomer Banned Banned!! Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 10, 2002 Location: USA Posts: 52	USPS My aunt works at the post office so I KNOW packages get LOST by USPS ALL THE TIME! I have had SEVERAL packages from Ebay purchases LOST by USPS over the past few years. Packages DO get lost by USPS and packages are NOT always scanned when the package needs to be scanned.

05-26-2003, 03:16 AM	#9
mcjohnc Banned Banned!! Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 27, 2002 Posts: 13	USPS & Ebay I'd have to agree with Teboomer, I've had SEVERAL money orders and packages over the past 3 years from sellers on Ebay & from people on THESE BOARDS that swear they sent the tapes and they provide delivery confirmation numbers and the packages are lost all of he time. I WORK at USPS so I KNOW how UNRELIABLE USPS is and how USPS loses packages, money orders and mail all of the time! I've personally had packages going from CA to NY that were sent PRIORITY that took a MONTH to get to NY from California.

05-26-2003, 12:05 PM	#12
Evita Peron Evita Perón Frequent Poster Join Date: May 19, 2003 Location: USA Posts: 311	I've traded with a person on this board before and got the tape. But the quality was not that good. So there are some honest traders around. At least I got the tape. Crystal
	__________________ "Time is my greatest enemy." -Eva's favorite saying. "I would willingly die a thousand times for my descamisados." Evita

05-26-2003, 12:15 PM	#14
mcjohnc Banned Banned!! Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 27, 2002 Posts: 13	Delivery confirmation If the Delivery confirmation was not SCANNED by the USPS employee then it will NOT show up in the system and happens ALL THE TIME! so if it was not scanned at the post office it would not showup ONLINE OR at the post office, which is probably what happened with your package because I have sent Tina $300 at one time for tapes and I had no problem receiving my tapes.
	Last edited by mcjohnc; 05-26-2003 at 02:24 PM.