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AtlantaBravesFan29 · 04-30-2003, 08:55 AM

I have a few questions about the last season of That Girl:

1. Why did Marlo change her hairstyle that season??? I like the hairstyle,actually the flip was the best for me and for many fans of the show.

2. The theme song from the last season,"Diamonds and Daisies",was sung at the last season,but not in the previous seasons. Was Marlo trying to compete with Mary Tyler Moore in getting a theme song going???

3. I know that Ann Marie and Donald were engaged during the last season,but there wasn't any closure in the very last episode. They could have ended it with the wedding of Ann Marie and Donald.

4. Why did Marlo Thomas end her show??? Was it ratings related or Marlo herself or both???

thatbirdmartha · 06-08-2003, 01:41 PM

Marlo changed her hair because it was the last season and she knew that she could. She had tired of wearing the flip quite awhile ago.

She did not want to marry Donald because she felt that it would be "giving in" to the idea of Ann's independence. That Girl was the first show to really show a single young woman working and living on her own (it was on the air before MTM).

After 5 years, Marlo felt that she had done all that she could with the show. Ted Bessel and the others had signed additional 3-year contracts but she did not. That Girl was that woman. Marlo was really the executive producer of the show and totally in charge although the credits never showed it. She felt that people weren't ready for that.

BundyBoy10 · 07-10-2003, 09:32 AM

Wow! I learned aotl just now. Thanks for the info!!

TV Knowledge Fan · 04-24-2006, 07:39 PM

Marlo WAS "Daisy Productions", and SHE had final say over just about everything. She knew where to get the best writers, producers, composers, production crew, and actors/actresses to work with {she learned from her father, of course!}.
I think she knew season five would be the last.....and tried to do the best work she could, without compromising herself or "Ann Marie". She and "Daw-nald Hollinger" would NOT get married on-screen, as she vowed...but we'd all like to think they eventually DID.

treky · 05-01-2006, 01:36 AM

CLAIROL-the shows sponsor-wanted the series to end with Ann & Donald getting married, but she didn't want that.

TV Knowledge Fan · 05-03-2006, 01:36 PM

....Marlo wouldn't compromise when it came to her sponsors, either. The Clairol division of Bristol-Myers had very little influence on "THAT GIRL"'s
content, no matter how long they sustained her series. She was dead set against an Ann Marie/Donald marriage....and that was THAT!

storrs19 · 05-04-2006, 09:36 AM

Interesting that Marlo did not want her name shown as "Executive in charge of Production" as Lucille Ball stated she was at the end of her shows since the 2nd season of The Lucy Show since September 1963. If Lucy could do it so could other women. I know Lucy led the way but I think by the late 1960's it should have been fine for Marlo to show her own name as Executive Producer. Just my two cents worth.

Shindigger · 06-25-2006, 09:16 PM

I really have so much admiration for Marlo Thomas. Not wanting to end the show with a wedding was, to my way of thinking, really indicative of Marlo's integrity to the character of Ann. It would have been easy to just do a wedding show and put a nice bow on things.

One episode, "What Are Your Intentions?" was really trail-blazing for the time it was filmed. Ann had a line to the effect that Don wasn't ready to get married and she wasn't either. It's not unusual for guys to say that, but for a woman to voice it, and say it first, I thought was brilliant! I think many men feel that every woman is just dying to marry, but surprise, surprise- that's not always the case. I just thought it great that Marlo would play a such an independent character.

I won't lie and say I wouldn't have loved seeing Ann and Don marry, but I think Marlo's choice was a good one; at least we can always use our imagination on how the story would have gone.

WalrusIsPaul · 12-16-2006, 11:42 PM

Was there any ever talks of a reunion show,to show them now,at least in the 80s early 90s.when a lot of the reunion shows started?

treky · 12-16-2006, 11:49 PM

I think I remember reading somewhere that there was, in the 80s (I think the mid-80s).

But Marlo didn't want to do the character again and Ted wasn't interested, or something like that.

gidgetgrape · 12-17-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WalrusIsPaul

Was there any ever talks of a reunion show,to show them now,at least in the 80s early 90s.when a lot of the reunion shows started?

Ted Bessell wanted to do a reunion, but he died before it could happen.

Source: http://www.thatgirltv.com/reunion.html

EmpressDR · 12-24-2006, 08:36 PM

If any of you were around in those days, you'd know what a feminist Marlo was. She was one of the most visible feminists for me, and because I'd long admired her, quite something.

She waited until she was in her 40s to marry Phil Donahue, then hailed as a feminist man

04-30-2003, 08:55 AM	#1
AtlantaBravesFan29 Atlanta Braves Fan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 13, 2002 Location: Pleasanton,TX--40 Miles South Of San Antonio Posts: 1,859	Questions About Season 5 (1970-1971 Season) I have a few questions about the last season of That Girl: 1. Why did Marlo change her hairstyle that season??? I like the hairstyle,actually the flip was the best for me and for many fans of the show. 2. The theme song from the last season,"Diamonds and Daisies",was sung at the last season,but not in the previous seasons. Was Marlo trying to compete with Mary Tyler Moore in getting a theme song going??? 3. I know that Ann Marie and Donald were engaged during the last season,but there wasn't any closure in the very last episode. They could have ended it with the wedding of Ann Marie and Donald. 4. Why did Marlo Thomas end her show??? Was it ratings related or Marlo herself or both???

04-24-2006, 07:39 PM	#4
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	That's right.... Marlo WAS "Daisy Productions", and SHE had final say over just about everything. She knew where to get the best writers, producers, composers, production crew, and actors/actresses to work with {she learned from her father, of course!}. I think she knew season five would be the last.....and tried to do the best work she could, without compromising herself or "Ann Marie". She and "Daw-nald Hollinger" would NOT get married on-screen, as she vowed...but we'd all like to think they eventually DID.

05-01-2006, 01:36 AM	#5
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	CLAIROL-the shows sponsor-wanted the series to end with Ann & Donald getting married, but she didn't want that.
	__________________ the Clampetts are in a fancy Beverly Hills jewelry store. Granny points to a tray of rubies. Granny: "How much fer one o' them red diamonds?" clerk: "Madam, those are rubies." Granny: "OK ask her kin we buy one offa her." clerk: " The ruby I am talking about is not a lady." Granny: "Lissen, how she got them diamonds is her business. I'm just sayin' ask her kin we buy one from her."

05-03-2006, 01:36 PM	#6
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	Exactly, 'treky'.... ....Marlo wouldn't compromise when it came to her sponsors, either. The Clairol division of Bristol-Myers had very little influence on "THAT GIRL"'s content, no matter how long they sustained her series. She was dead set against an Ann Marie/Donald marriage....and that was THAT!

05-04-2006, 09:36 AM	#7
storrs19 B&W TV Lover Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 07, 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 742	Interesting that Marlo did not want her name shown as "Executive in charge of Production" as Lucille Ball stated she was at the end of her shows since the 2nd season of The Lucy Show since September 1963. If Lucy could do it so could other women. I know Lucy led the way but I think by the late 1960's it should have been fine for Marlo to show her own name as Executive Producer. Just my two cents worth.
	__________________ Bring back my B&W TV Shows !!

06-08-2003, 01:41 PM	#2
thatbirdmartha Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 18, 2002 Posts: 24	Marlo changed her hair because it was the last season and she knew that she could. She had tired of wearing the flip quite awhile ago. She did not want to marry Donald because she felt that it would be "giving in" to the idea of Ann's independence. That Girl was the first show to really show a single young woman working and living on her own (it was on the air before MTM). After 5 years, Marlo felt that she had done all that she could with the show. Ted Bessel and the others had signed additional 3-year contracts but she did not. That Girl was that woman. Marlo was really the executive producer of the show and totally in charge although the credits never showed it. She felt that people weren't ready for that.

07-10-2003, 09:32 AM	#3
BundyBoy10 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2002 Posts: 311	Wow! I learned aotl just now. Thanks for the info!!

06-25-2006, 09:16 PM	#8
Shindigger Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 20, 2001 Posts: 79	I really have so much admiration for Marlo Thomas. Not wanting to end the show with a wedding was, to my way of thinking, really indicative of Marlo's integrity to the character of Ann. It would have been easy to just do a wedding show and put a nice bow on things. One episode, "What Are Your Intentions?" was really trail-blazing for the time it was filmed. Ann had a line to the effect that Don wasn't ready to get married and she wasn't either. It's not unusual for guys to say that, but for a woman to voice it, and say it first, I thought was brilliant! I think many men feel that every woman is just dying to marry, but surprise, surprise- that's not always the case. I just thought it great that Marlo would play a such an independent character. I won't lie and say I wouldn't have loved seeing Ann and Don marry, but I think Marlo's choice was a good one; at least we can always use our imagination on how the story would have gone.

12-16-2006, 11:42 PM	#9
WalrusIsPaul Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 04, 2001 Location: Pgh,Pa.US Posts: 264	Was there any ever talks of a reunion show,to show them now,at least in the 80s early 90s.when a lot of the reunion shows started?

12-16-2006, 11:49 PM	#10
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	I think I remember reading somewhere that there was, in the 80s (I think the mid-80s). But Marlo didn't want to do the character again and Ted wasn't interested, or something like that.

12-24-2006, 08:36 PM	#12
EmpressDR Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2004 Location: California Posts: 279	Marlo the feminist If any of you were around in those days, you'd know what a feminist Marlo was. She was one of the most visible feminists for me, and because I'd long admired her, quite something. She waited until she was in her 40s to marry Phil Donahue, then hailed as a feminist man