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10-21-2001, 02:33 AM

I thought June Cleaver was a delightful and charming lady who realy was one of the most understanding people in sitcoms. I do think though that many times she was often not able to think for herself and relied on Ward a bit too much to solve problems that she was perfectly capable of solving.

She seemed nosy at times and was always over-protective of Beaver. (This IMO is especially true in the first few seasons) I think Ward was more "level-headed" where as June was more emotional in her parenting.

Her nervousness/anxiety is there and without Ward, I think the poor woman would have been a basket case because she'd want to be so understanding to everyone that she could never enforce real strong discipline had she been a single mother....(I think poor Larry Mondello's mother was the ultimate nervous wreck with her husband being away.) I think June needed Ward far more than Ward needed her.

Penny Lane · 10-21-2001, 07:08 PM

June was a little too fussy. But I have to tell all of you, I grew up in the 50's and things in my home ran pretty much the same way!My mother stayed home to raise her 7 kids and worked hard doing it!But she never did housework in pearls! I think June is very charming! If a little naive! Times were really different then! I remember! But it was wonderful to come home from school and having my mom there! A kid really needs that!Some may laugh at that but it was always very comforting and nice to have a stable, regular "boring" life! I tried to do the same for my kids.Those really were "the good old days"!

10-21-2001, 08:28 PM

Sometimes she can be a Whinny Bi---h though!! Poor Ward ):

10-21-2001, 11:18 PM

With regard to June always wearing pearls, Barbara Billingsly insisted on doing this at all times because she was self-conscience about a wrinkle line in her neck that to her, looked like a scar.

Jack

Penny Lane · 10-22-2001, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Jack 1000:
EWHART FANWith regard to June always wearing pearls, Barbara Billingsly insisted on doing this at all times because she was self-conscience about a wrinkle line in her neck that to her, looked like a scar.

Jack

Natalie Wood had a similar problem. She had broken her wrist as a child and was very self- conscious of a bump that remained. So she insisted on wearing a bracelet on that wrist. I'm sure if you look at any pictures of her as an adult she will always be wearing a bracelet.
Thanks for the remark about the pearls! Very interesting!

BUNDYBOY · 11-06-2001, 05:45 PM

She was ok But she wasnt the funniest character there was!

11-08-2001, 07:25 PM

I saw Barbara Billingsley interviewed and she said that she had a very long neck so the producers wanted the pearls?

eyefocus · 11-06-2002, 10:42 AM

I always had a crush on June Cleaver and found her very attractive.
Although her character was a little stiff she posessed the characteristics
of what I thought was the typical model mother of most families.
Of course she represents a figure in the "ideal" family but I still
thought it was credible enough for the most part.
I find that her wearing pearls and heels all the time added a certain
amount of class and dignity though women of today absolutely dress
much more casual around the house. I do believe as well that women
dress like that during that time. Seems overdressed for todays
standards but it was becoming during the shooting of the series then.

Cory

BBF · 11-06-2002, 12:43 PM

I thought June was the BEST. I didn't think she was whiny or overdressed, people constantly say that she was, but she wasn't FOR THE TIME! Maybe all mothers didn't clean in heels but I know they wore dresses most of the time. I think the main problem there is that she is compared to women and mothers today who don't care half as much about how they look as women then did. I know I wouldn't wear a dress everyday! But back then, it was just the way it was! People also thought she depended on Ward too much, but the truth is, she just followed the teaching of the Man is the head of the household, and let him take care of things...a teaching that has been since thrown out the window.

FOL85NatandMrsGRock · 11-06-2002, 05:21 PM

Wow, so very many opininated people on the board here. I for one feel that sometimes she should have handled things herself, but i do not think she was a whiny B*tch, nor do i feel sorry for Ward to have her as a wife, she was the perfect wife, she stayed out of Ward's way most of the time, she always had dinner ready on the table, she almost always greeted him at the door with a kiss and an arm to take his suitcase. If you ask me, Ward had it pretty dam good! She did the cleaning and the laundry, sure Ward had to deal with most of Beaver and Wallys problems, but he probably wouldn't have known they had any problems without June "snooping" through their things (i used quotation marks becuase she usually stumbled upon them while putting their clothes away or emptying the trash) Besides the fact that she was following what woman should do back then, she was pretty self sufficient, Ward sure as hell would never sew a button back onto Beaver's sweater, and i'm sure he wouldn't be making a cake for the boys to eat when they got home from school!! And what episode was it where Ward had to cook dinner and he burned it or he didn't make something too good? I dunno, but Ward sure couldn't take care of the boys in a physical sense, he just supplied the money and helped them with their problems and homework. Now, don't get me wrong, cuz i love Ward to pieces as well, i just am mainly stating that she was very useful to the family, and i don't think she was just there to be the worry wart of the family, mother's intuitions are usually #1 in my book.

Now, for where I stand on June Cleaver, I feel that if I could, I'd be a stay home mother as well, to care for the kids, if i felt comfortable in a dress, i would wear it, the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect woman, the perfect person to run to when you need a shoulder to cry on. If that isn't what we aim for in this world, then i don't know what is. If I had a mom like June, in ANY sense, i don't think i would idolize her as much as i do. As far as i'm conserned, she's the #1 tv mom of ALL TIMES!!!

Stormtracker TF · 11-06-2002, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by BeaversBiggestFan
I thought June was the BEST. I didn't think she was whiny or overdressed, people constantly say that she was, but she wasn't FOR THE TIME! Maybe all mothers didn't clean in heels but I know they wore dresses most of the time. I think the main problem there is that she is compared to women and mothers today who don't care half as much about how they look as women then did. I know I wouldn't wear a dress everyday! But back then, it was just the way it was! People also thought she depended on Ward too much, but the truth is, she just followed the teaching of the Man is the head of the household, and let him take care of things...a teaching that has been since thrown out the window.

Agreed!

BBF · 11-06-2002, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by FOL85NatandMrsGRock
Wow, so very many opininated people on the board here. I for one feel that sometimes she should have handled things herself, but i do not think she was a whiny B*tch, nor do i feel sorry for Ward to have her as a wife, she was the perfect wife, she stayed out of Ward's way most of the time, she always had dinner ready on the table, she almost always greeted him at the door with a kiss and an arm to take his suitcase. If you ask me, Ward had it pretty dam good! She did the cleaning and the laundry, sure Ward had to deal with most of Beaver and Wallys problems, but he probably wouldn't have known they had any problems without June "snooping" through their things (i used quotation marks becuase she usually stumbled upon them while putting their clothes away or emptying the trash) Besides the fact that she was following what woman should do back then, she was pretty self sufficient, Ward sure as hell would never sew a button back onto Beaver's sweater, and i'm sure he wouldn't be making a cake for the boys to eat when they got home from school!! And what episode was it where Ward had to cook dinner and he burned it or he didn't make something too good? I dunno, but Ward sure couldn't take care of the boys in a physical sense, he just supplied the money and helped them with their problems and homework. Now, don't get me wrong, cuz i love Ward to pieces as well, i just am mainly stating that she was very useful to the family, and i don't think she was just there to be the worry wart of the family, mother's intuitions are usually #1 in my book.

Now, for where I stand on June Cleaver, I feel that if I could, I'd be a stay home mother as well, to care for the kids, if i felt comfortable in a dress, i would wear it, the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect woman, the perfect person to run to when you need a shoulder to cry on. If that isn't what we aim for in this world, then i don't know what is. If I had a mom like June, in ANY sense, i don't think i would idolize her as much as i do. As far as i'm conserned, she's the #1 tv mom of ALL TIMES!!!

AMEN GIRL!

bandito · 11-06-2002, 10:58 PM

i liked june although she would irk me when she would always neb into the boys buissnes (phone calls dresser drawers garbage can ect ect) she needed to give them there privacy a little more.

boechsner · 11-07-2002, 03:02 AM

June Cleaver is one of my all-time favorite TV Mom's, she's second only to Carol Brady.

For June fans, the episode, June's Birthday is must-see. This episode is very heartwarming and if you don't feel anything when Beaver sees her not wearing the birthday blouse and they show her reaction, there must be something wrong with you.

Another side of June can be seen in The Perfect Father, where she tries to get revenge on Eddie for pushing Beaver around. She puts mayo on his sandwich after he told her not to.

BBF · 11-07-2002, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by boechsner
For June fans, the episode, June's Birthday is must-see. This episode is very heartwarming and if you don't feel anything when Beaver sees her not wearing the birthday blouse and they show her reaction, there must be something wrong with you.

I LOVE THAT EPISODE!!! It's so sweet! I especially love it because at first, she was going to wait for Ward to talk to Beaver for her, but she decides to do it herself...It's so sweet!

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Another side of June can be seen in The Perfect Father, where she tries to get revenge on Eddie for pushing Beaver around. She puts mayo on his sandwich after he told her not to.

I love that one too!!! It's so funny! I remember my reaction to her saying "Just for that, I AM going to put mayonnaise on his sandwich!" was you go girl! The funny thing is that when Wally comes home, he said "Eddie was sick, something about having Mayo on his sandwich"

10-21-2001, 02:33 AM	#1
Jack 1000 Guest Posts: n/a	What Do We All Think of June? I thought June Cleaver was a delightful and charming lady who realy was one of the most understanding people in sitcoms. I do think though that many times she was often not able to think for herself and relied on Ward a bit too much to solve problems that she was perfectly capable of solving. She seemed nosy at times and was always over-protective of Beaver. (This IMO is especially true in the first few seasons) I think Ward was more "level-headed" where as June was more emotional in her parenting. Her nervousness/anxiety is there and without Ward, I think the poor woman would have been a basket case because she'd want to be so understanding to everyone that she could never enforce real strong discipline had she been a single mother....(I think poor Larry Mondello's mother was the ultimate nervous wreck with her husband being away.) I think June needed Ward far more than Ward needed her.
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10-21-2001, 08:28 PM	#3
taviz Guest Posts: n/a	Sometimes she can be a Whinny Bi---h though!! Poor Ward ):
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10-21-2001, 11:18 PM	#4
Jack 1000 Guest Posts: n/a	With regard to June always wearing pearls, Barbara Billingsly insisted on doing this at all times because she was self-conscience about a wrinkle line in her neck that to her, looked like a scar. Jack
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11-08-2001, 07:25 PM	#7
keane#6 Guest Posts: n/a	I saw Barbara Billingsley interviewed and she said that she had a very long neck so the producers wanted the pearls?
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11-06-2002, 10:42 AM	#8
eyefocus In Love With June Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 04, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 73	June I always had a crush on June Cleaver and found her very attractive. Although her character was a little stiff she posessed the characteristics of what I thought was the typical model mother of most families. Of course she represents a figure in the "ideal" family but I still thought it was credible enough for the most part. I find that her wearing pearls and heels all the time added a certain amount of class and dignity though women of today absolutely dress much more casual around the house. I do believe as well that women dress like that during that time. Seems overdressed for todays standards but it was becoming during the shooting of the series then. Cory
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10-21-2001, 07:08 PM	#2
Penny Lane Butter Pie Forum Icon Join Date: Jul 03, 2001 Location: Beneath the blue suburban skies Posts: 51,119	June was a little too fussy. But I have to tell all of you, I grew up in the 50's and things in my home ran pretty much the same way!My mother stayed home to raise her 7 kids and worked hard doing it!But she never did housework in pearls! I think June is very charming! If a little naive! Times were really different then! I remember! But it was wonderful to come home from school and having my mom there! A kid really needs that!Some may laugh at that but it was always very comforting and nice to have a stable, regular "boring" life! I tried to do the same for my kids.Those really were "the good old days"!

11-06-2001, 05:45 PM	#6
BUNDYBOY Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 05, 2001 Location: Mansfield, MA United States Posts: 69	She was ok But she wasnt the funniest character there was!

11-06-2002, 12:43 PM	#9
BBF Workin' those Scrubs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 12, 2002 Location: The "Natural" State Posts: 2,014	I thought June was the BEST. I didn't think she was whiny or overdressed, people constantly say that she was, but she wasn't FOR THE TIME! Maybe all mothers didn't clean in heels but I know they wore dresses most of the time. I think the main problem there is that she is compared to women and mothers today who don't care half as much about how they look as women then did. I know I wouldn't wear a dress everyday! But back then, it was just the way it was! People also thought she depended on Ward too much, but the truth is, she just followed the teaching of the Man is the head of the household, and let him take care of things...a teaching that has been since thrown out the window.
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11-06-2002, 05:21 PM	#10
FOL85NatandMrsGRock The Lovable Sarah Senior Member Join Date: Nov 07, 2000 Location: Wisconsin (Same Place Charlotte's From and where That 70's Show takes place!) .... Wish I was in Mayfield USA! Posts: 1,770	Wow, so very many opininated people on the board here. I for one feel that sometimes she should have handled things herself, but i do not think she was a whiny B*tch, nor do i feel sorry for Ward to have her as a wife, she was the perfect wife, she stayed out of Ward's way most of the time, she always had dinner ready on the table, she almost always greeted him at the door with a kiss and an arm to take his suitcase. If you ask me, Ward had it pretty dam good! She did the cleaning and the laundry, sure Ward had to deal with most of Beaver and Wallys problems, but he probably wouldn't have known they had any problems without June "snooping" through their things (i used quotation marks becuase she usually stumbled upon them while putting their clothes away or emptying the trash) Besides the fact that she was following what woman should do back then, she was pretty self sufficient, Ward sure as hell would never sew a button back onto Beaver's sweater, and i'm sure he wouldn't be making a cake for the boys to eat when they got home from school!! And what episode was it where Ward had to cook dinner and he burned it or he didn't make something too good? I dunno, but Ward sure couldn't take care of the boys in a physical sense, he just supplied the money and helped them with their problems and homework. Now, don't get me wrong, cuz i love Ward to pieces as well, i just am mainly stating that she was very useful to the family, and i don't think she was just there to be the worry wart of the family, mother's intuitions are usually #1 in my book. Now, for where I stand on June Cleaver, I feel that if I could, I'd be a stay home mother as well, to care for the kids, if i felt comfortable in a dress, i would wear it, the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect woman, the perfect person to run to when you need a shoulder to cry on. If that isn't what we aim for in this world, then i don't know what is. If I had a mom like June, in ANY sense, i don't think i would idolize her as much as i do. As far as i'm conserned, she's the #1 tv mom of ALL TIMES!!!
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11-06-2002, 10:58 PM	#13
bandito Going Topless Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Location: The Steel City Posts: 6,320	i liked june although she would irk me when she would always neb into the boys buissnes (phone calls dresser drawers garbage can ect ect) she needed to give them there privacy a little more.
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11-07-2002, 03:02 AM	#14
boechsner Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 18, 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 2,212	June Cleaver is one of my all-time favorite TV Mom's, she's second only to Carol Brady. For June fans, the episode, June's Birthday is must-see. This episode is very heartwarming and if you don't feel anything when Beaver sees her not wearing the birthday blouse and they show her reaction, there must be something wrong with you. Another side of June can be seen in The Perfect Father, where she tries to get revenge on Eddie for pushing Beaver around. She puts mayo on his sandwich after he told her not to.