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nantucket_wings · 04-23-2003, 08:37 PM

k this is how it goes ... example: Last nights episode was about Helen and Joes new gf getting together for lunch and ended up trading little trats of Joe, so everyone voice your opinion about that particular episode and so on ... tonights episode is The Late Mrs. Biggins so tomorrows debate will be on that particular episode ...

... lets see how far we can go with this thread ...

Chocoholic · 04-23-2003, 08:46 PM

I love the meat-slapping scene. Such a hysterical episode. Great writing, timing, and acting. I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again: Why the hell didn't Wings and any of its cast members ever win an Emmy?

In two nights is one of my favorites, The Bogey Men. "My goat knows the bowling score, Hallelujiah!"

nantucket_wings · 04-23-2003, 08:51 PM

I love that scene between helen and joe and the fish ... lol

I wonder how red their cheeks got after they got done shooting that scene ... lol ... after a while of getting slapped with fish I would think it would start to hurt a little ... lol

losthighway · 04-23-2003, 11:46 PM

I absolutely love the Ladies who Lunch episode. It's one of my favorites. The sarcastic barbs between Gail and Helen are great, Crystal's deliveries of the lines are classic.....

Helen: You pig!

Gail: How dare you.

Helen: Oh like that's the first time you've heard that today.

Then of course the dialogue between Helen and Joe is great.....Joe's line, "you wish you were over me, you wish you were ALL over me".....makes me laugh every time. And then it was all released perfectly with the big kiss. And then Joe's reaction to Gail.

Joe: Gail there's a perfectly good explanation for what happened.

Gail: I'm listening.

Joe: Oh, you want to hear it.

Great stuff.....and the secondary plot with Roy and Faye makes me chuckle as well.

Just like Snoopy said, I have no idea why none of the main actors or writers ever won an emmy. This episode was worthy of at least a writers award.

Chocoholic · 04-24-2003, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by losthighway

Just like Snoopy said, I have no idea why none of the main actors or writers ever won an emmy.

I know! I personally think Wings had far better writing and acting than Friends, Everybody Loves Raymond (Which I do like, but still think it's over-rated.), and other shows that have been nominated for and won Emmys. I don't bother paying attention to awards shows anymore.

losthighway · 04-24-2003, 12:39 AM

I don't pay much attention to the awards either Snoopy. I think they tend to be driven by agents and advertising campaigns.

It still frustrates me a little because I really think the work of David Schramm, Crystal Bernard, and Steven Weber were definitely worthy of recognition at certain times throughout the run of the show. I'm not sure if they were ever even nominated, which is even worse. And the show definitely should have gotten some emmys for writing.

Chocoholic · 04-24-2003, 01:41 AM

Maybe that can be another thread here: episodes/scenes where individual cast members really stood out acting-wise.

Anyhoo, tonight's episode "The Late Mrs. Biggins" had some great lines, but wasn't really laugh out loud funny, IMHO. I liked the scenes with Brian and Roy. On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being unwatchable, 10 being a true classic) I'd give it a 7.

HaskellGirl · 04-24-2003, 02:52 AM

I didn't think this episode was one of the best, either. I thought the person they hired to play Roy's ex-wife couldn't act one bit. The only part I really liked was Brian's whole speech to Roy, encouraging him to go. It was an interesting look into Brian's psyche.

I wonder if I'm the only one who does this, but lots of times when I'm watching Wings (although not all the time), especially when I see Joe and Brian interacting, I think "I can't believe Brian ran off and married Joe's fiancee". If my sister did that, I don't think I'd be able to forgive her, and I don't think she'd be able to forgive herself. But anyway, I thought Brian's speech indicated how he could do that.

pilotguy · 04-24-2003, 07:06 AM

I don't know why, but for some reason I just can't seem to get into the episodes that center around Roy and his problems. (I didn't really care for the episode where Roy's son announces that he's gay either).

I tend to think of Roy more as a "background" character....Somebody who watches the interaction of everyone else and then chimes in with a wisecrack (sort of like Louie on "Taxi" or Carla on "Cheers"). His personality just doesn't seem to be able to sustain the focus of an entire episode.

I DID enjoy the one where he was running against Fay for Town Council, but that was more of an "ensemble" episode.

Of course, part of my "ho-hum" attitude towards last night's "The Late Mrs. Biggins" entry could be that it was shown the night after the GREAT "Ladies Who Lunch" episode....which as I said earlier, I consider to be a true (and hilarious) "Wings" CLASSIC!

nantucket_wings · 04-24-2003, 08:55 AM

I agree last nights episode with Roy and his ex wife wasnt at the top of my wings favorites ... I think maybe it was in part to Roys ex wife having a losey sense of humor ... I also liked brians speach, kindof reminds me of myself sometimes ...

nantucket_wings · 04-24-2003, 08:58 AM

Tonights show is called "The Bogey Men" so tomorrows debate topic will be about that particular episode ...

... its one of my all time favorites, but youll have to wait till tomorrow to here all about it ...

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Originally posted by nantucket_wings
I agree last nights episode with Roy and his ex wife wasnt at the top of my wings favorites ... I think maybe it was in part to Roys ex wife having a losey sense of humor ... I also liked brians speach, kindof reminds me of myself sometimes ...

pilotguy · 04-24-2003, 09:16 AM

A thought on last night's episode....

Perhaps the story could have been a little better (and more emotional) if Roy's ex-wife hadn't been so cold and heartless.

Perhaps if she and Roy DID share a laugh or two together, and she displayed SOME sort of affection for him, but then got serious with Sylvia saying, "But Roy, that was a long time ago and I've moved on..."

THAT may have played better than having her stand there like an ice statue!

Krista2882 · 04-24-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by pilotguy
I don't know why, but for some reason I just can't seem to get into the episodes that center around Roy and his problems. (I didn't really care for the episode where Roy's son announces that he's gay either).

I tend to think of Roy more as a "background" character....Somebody who watches the interaction of everyone else and then chimes in with a wisecrack (sort of like Louie on "Taxi" or Carla on "Cheers"). His personality just doesn't seem to be able to sustain the focus of an entire episode.

I DID enjoy the one where he was running against Fay for Town Council, but that was more of an "ensemble" episode.

Of course, part of my "ho-hum" attitude towards last night's "The Late Mrs. Biggins" entry could be that it was shown the night after the GREAT "Ladies Who Lunch" episode....which as I said earlier, I consider to be a true (and hilarious) "Wings" CLASSIC!

I agree with you!
Roy is a funny character when he's more of an accessory to the rest of the characters- like how you said wen he's sort of in the background chiming in with a wisecrack.
I find the Roy episodes to be kind of boring (as was last night's episode.)

What I liked about the episode last night was the scenes with Brian. I liked his "ten percenter" speech to Roy, and then he was really funny in Roy's ex-wife's house.

~Krista
:o)

phoebe7165 · 04-24-2003, 12:45 PM

"Antonio comes to the U.S.A., Hallelujah". Sad, but everytime I see anything on the music "Michael, row the boat ashore", I have to chuckle. Helen-"Michael just keeps rowing that boat ashore but does he get anywhere? NOOOOOOO!!!!!" Too funny!

losthighway · 04-24-2003, 01:28 PM

There was a better episode with Roy dealing with his ex-wife in season 4 or 5 when Sylvia comes to see Roy and acts like she wants him back, but in reality she is only doing it to get back at her husband, who cheated on her.

04-23-2003, 08:37 PM	#1
nantucket_wings " Wing Nut " Senior Member Join Date: Apr 08, 2003 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 1,042	Wings Debate Thread k this is how it goes ... example: Last nights episode was about Helen and Joes new gf getting together for lunch and ended up trading little trats of Joe, so everyone voice your opinion about that particular episode and so on ... tonights episode is The Late Mrs. Biggins so tomorrows debate will be on that particular episode ... ... lets see how far we can go with this thread ...
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04-23-2003, 08:51 PM	#3
nantucket_wings " Wing Nut " Senior Member Join Date: Apr 08, 2003 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 1,042	I love that scene between helen and joe and the fish ... lol I wonder how red their cheeks got after they got done shooting that scene ... lol ... after a while of getting slapped with fish I would think it would start to hurt a little ... lol
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04-24-2003, 09:16 AM	#12
pilotguy Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 09, 2003 Posts: 1,305	"The Late Mrs. Biggins" A thought on last night's episode.... Perhaps the story could have been a little better (and more emotional) if Roy's ex-wife hadn't been so cold and heartless. Perhaps if she and Roy DID share a laugh or two together, and she displayed SOME sort of affection for him, but then got serious with Sylvia saying, "But Roy, that was a long time ago and I've moved on..." THAT may have played better than having her stand there like an ice statue!

04-23-2003, 08:46 PM	#2
Chocoholic Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 11,235	I love the meat-slapping scene. Such a hysterical episode. Great writing, timing, and acting. I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again: Why the hell didn't Wings and any of its cast members ever win an Emmy? In two nights is one of my favorites, The Bogey Men. "My goat knows the bowling score, Hallelujiah!"

04-23-2003, 11:46 PM	#4
losthighway Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2003 Posts: 370	I absolutely love the Ladies who Lunch episode. It's one of my favorites. The sarcastic barbs between Gail and Helen are great, Crystal's deliveries of the lines are classic..... Helen: You pig! Gail: How dare you. Helen: Oh like that's the first time you've heard that today. Then of course the dialogue between Helen and Joe is great.....Joe's line, "you wish you were over me, you wish you were ALL over me".....makes me laugh every time. And then it was all released perfectly with the big kiss. And then Joe's reaction to Gail. Joe: Gail there's a perfectly good explanation for what happened. Gail: I'm listening. Joe: Oh, you want to hear it. Great stuff.....and the secondary plot with Roy and Faye makes me chuckle as well. Just like Snoopy said, I have no idea why none of the main actors or writers ever won an emmy. This episode was worthy of at least a writers award.

04-24-2003, 12:39 AM	#6
losthighway Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2003 Posts: 370	I don't pay much attention to the awards either Snoopy. I think they tend to be driven by agents and advertising campaigns. It still frustrates me a little because I really think the work of David Schramm, Crystal Bernard, and Steven Weber were definitely worthy of recognition at certain times throughout the run of the show. I'm not sure if they were ever even nominated, which is even worse. And the show definitely should have gotten some emmys for writing.

04-24-2003, 01:41 AM	#7
Chocoholic Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 11,235	Maybe that can be another thread here: episodes/scenes where individual cast members really stood out acting-wise. Anyhoo, tonight's episode "The Late Mrs. Biggins" had some great lines, but wasn't really laugh out loud funny, IMHO. I liked the scenes with Brian and Roy. On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being unwatchable, 10 being a true classic) I'd give it a 7.

04-24-2003, 02:52 AM	#8
HaskellGirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 15, 2002 Posts: 590	I didn't think this episode was one of the best, either. I thought the person they hired to play Roy's ex-wife couldn't act one bit. The only part I really liked was Brian's whole speech to Roy, encouraging him to go. It was an interesting look into Brian's psyche. I wonder if I'm the only one who does this, but lots of times when I'm watching Wings (although not all the time), especially when I see Joe and Brian interacting, I think "I can't believe Brian ran off and married Joe's fiancee". If my sister did that, I don't think I'd be able to forgive her, and I don't think she'd be able to forgive herself. But anyway, I thought Brian's speech indicated how he could do that.

04-24-2003, 07:06 AM	#9
pilotguy Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 09, 2003 Posts: 1,305	I don't know why, but for some reason I just can't seem to get into the episodes that center around Roy and his problems. (I didn't really care for the episode where Roy's son announces that he's gay either). I tend to think of Roy more as a "background" character....Somebody who watches the interaction of everyone else and then chimes in with a wisecrack (sort of like Louie on "Taxi" or Carla on "Cheers"). His personality just doesn't seem to be able to sustain the focus of an entire episode. I DID enjoy the one where he was running against Fay for Town Council, but that was more of an "ensemble" episode. Of course, part of my "ho-hum" attitude towards last night's "The Late Mrs. Biggins" entry could be that it was shown the night after the GREAT "Ladies Who Lunch" episode....which as I said earlier, I consider to be a true (and hilarious) "Wings" CLASSIC!

04-24-2003, 08:55 AM	#10
nantucket_wings " Wing Nut " Senior Member Join Date: Apr 08, 2003 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 1,042	I agree last nights episode with Roy and his ex wife wasnt at the top of my wings favorites ... I think maybe it was in part to Roys ex wife having a losey sense of humor ... I also liked brians speach, kindof reminds me of myself sometimes ...

04-24-2003, 12:45 PM	#14
phoebe7165 Pop Culture Goddess Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 15, 2003 Location: US of A - the country of "really bad music" lovers Posts: 11,600	"Antonio comes to the U.S.A., Hallelujah". Sad, but everytime I see anything on the music "Michael, row the boat ashore", I have to chuckle. Helen-"Michael just keeps rowing that boat ashore but does he get anywhere? NOOOOOOO!!!!!" Too funny!

04-24-2003, 01:28 PM	#15
losthighway Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2003 Posts: 370	There was a better episode with Roy dealing with his ex-wife in season 4 or 5 when Sylvia comes to see Roy and acts like she wants him back, but in reality she is only doing it to get back at her husband, who cheated on her.