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trekkie · 04-20-2003, 04:39 PM

"It is not myself I am thinking about, but it is the affect of what might happen to whatever is left that bothers me" -- Walt Disney
The "new" Disney Channel is ignoring the very principles they were founded under and is spitting on the Disney name as a whole.
The following comment is from a once proud Disney Channel viewer who has signed the official petition. They sum up our case perfectly:
"I live in an area where the Disney Channel is a premium channel. After subscribing for nearly ten years, we unsubscribed in the fall of 1998 ... Fall [of] 1998 was when I started college, so I had grown up with the Disney Channel but had lost interest with the changing program. Without me at home, my parents nixed the channel. Through the 'old' Disney Channel, I was introduced to wonderful old movies. It was on Disney that I first saw a lot of the Disney classics as well as Hollywood classics like the musicals of Rogers and Hammerstein. It used to be programming that my parents and I could watch together when I was younger. Now the only group your channel plays to is the 12 and under crowd. Shame on you! Disney is about family and once this channel was for family, now it’s a commercial filled unwatchable channel for Disney fans. I might as well watch Nickelodeon or MTV and I don't have to pay extra."
We are not saying that they should get rid of programs such as Lizzie McGuire and Boy Meets World. Rather, mix current shows in with other daytime programming such as higher quality behind the scenes shows, Classic Hollywood (A Disney Channel series that used to show live action films from Hollywood’s Golden Age), cartoon shorts, old cartoon series from Disney Afternoon (Perhaps the channel could have its own two hour Disney Afternoon show with rotating cartoons each day; like Pepper Ann, Ducktales, Talespin, and Doug one day; Tarzan, Recess, Goof Troop and Darkwing Duck another; and so on), and vintage episodes of Walt Disney’s television shows. Bring back the yearly Animation Festival, Disneyland/Walt Disney World history shows and opening day programs on each parks birthday. It’s not too much to ask for. The station would not only re-gain its legacy and original reputation, but it would undoubtedly receive a broader and more diversified audience.
Hey ... Why not just turn Disneyland into a giant playground with shops? There's an idea. After all, it would be cheaper to operate and future generations will know it only it as a giant kiddy area. Not the family entertainment giant it once was.
Just like the Disney Channel.
If certain areas in this company ignore their principles, they stop the Disney name from flourishing. Not just as a company. But also as a man. A pioneer. Walt Disney, to be precise. Whose philosophy in the Disney Company was always to entice people to visit all of their masterpieces by providing nothing but "High quality family entertainment." The company he built currently preaches about family, yet at the same time ignores the very aspects and principles of family entertainment upon which they were built.
When the Disney Channel began to ignore these ideals, they helped to stop the Disney name from flourishing. Not just as a company. And Flourishing into what it was destined to be.
But also as a man. And What he was always meant to be.
Please sign the petition, get company mailing addresses and join the campaign at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/
preservethemagic
If anything, transform ABC Family into Walt Disney Family and put old Disney programming there. What is the harm of mixing in classic Disney films and TV shows for current and future generations to enjoy? After all, "this" is where Disney came from; "this" is where Disney was more of a magical legacy than a generic brand name, such as Nickelodeon or MTV.
I remember watching Bonanza on the Hallmark Channel one night, and I got kind of teary eyed during the commercial breaks when they showed previews of what westerns, classic Disney films and original all-American movies were coming up. I remember thinking to myself "This is how the Disney Channel used to be; these are the values upon which they were built." The only difference is that Disney included cartoons and other children's programming during weekday mornings and afternoons.
But the Hallmark Channel is what the Disney Channel once was; and what the Disney Channel was always meant to be.
And It’s sad.
Please sign this petition and join the campaign:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/
preservethemagic

Ravey · 04-20-2003, 05:10 PM

I like the way the channel is right now. And all those cartoons they named like Pepper Ann is what Toon Disney is for.....

Ewan's My Man · 04-20-2003, 05:18 PM

I miss Growing Pains!

trekkie · 04-20-2003, 05:21 PM

You may like it, but what TDC is doing is morally wrong; and if you read my post instead of skimming it like I know you probably did, you'll see why.
I know what TDC was built around. And I know who Walt Disney was. I know the principles that he spent 95% of his life building for this company. I know that TDC was built around these principles.
And I know what an insult they now are to the Disney name, as both a company, a man and an entire family.

LucyFan · 04-20-2003, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
I miss Growing Pains!

me too!

I wish Nick at Nite would air it.

Ravey · 04-20-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trekkie
You may like it, but what TDC is doing is morally wrong; and if you read my post instead of skimming it like I know you probably did, you'll see why.
I know what TDC was built around. And I know who Walt Disney was. I know the principles that he spent 95% of his life building for this company. I know that TDC was built around these principles.
And I know what an insult they now are to the Disney name, as both a company, a man and an entire family.

I read most of it, then I got bored so I skimmed the rest. But I know what your saying, but I still like the way the channel is now.

LucyFan · 04-20-2003, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Ravey
[color=deeppink]I like the way the channel is right now. color]

I hate it. It has gone to good to bad to worse in a matter of six years and probably less than that. The channel has completely changed from it's original programming. The old Disney channel back then was far more better than it is now. Back then, they had everything from classic movies to great cartoons (Ducktales, Goof Troop, ect.) to series of all kinds. It was great.

trekkie · 04-20-2003, 05:30 PM

OK; as long as you read it and understand where we're coming from.

At least you're not one of those naive 13 yr olds who see this and won't even read the thing before brutally assaulting me verbally (Which I've had done to me) LOL

trekkie · 04-20-2003, 05:32 PM

That was direc ted towards ravey

Ravey · 04-20-2003, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LucyFan

I hate it. It has gone to good to bad to worse in a matter of six years and probably less than that. The channel has completely changed from it's original programming. The old Disney channel back then was far more better than it is now. Back then, they had everything from classic movies to great cartoons (Ducktales, Goof Troop, ect.) to series of all kinds. It was great.

Well I like the series better than the cartoons. I never really liked watching Dark Wing Duck and Duck Tales, or the classic movies.

Ravey · 04-20-2003, 05:37 PM

Well I shouldn't say I never liked watching them, when I was like 7 and 8 I liked watching Dark Wing Ducks and the classic movies.

Chad22 · 04-20-2003, 05:44 PM

I Agree. I Loved The Disney channel when i was younger and it was alot better (Nickelodeon was too!). But it seems as if both The Disney Channel and Nickelodeon have sold out to please the 12 year olds. Dont get me wrong, I Love Boy Meets World and Smart Guy...But i think showing them once a day is fine. They should air the Sitcoms and stuff at night, and Air some of the older Classic Disney Channel stuff during the day. Man, What happened to Mickey, Donald and Goofy?

trekkie · 04-20-2003, 05:51 PM

They died

~Tropical Punch 19~ · 04-20-2003, 05:51 PM

I agree. i think disney should mix its new stuff and its old classic stuff. I mean some of the enw stuff is good-some being the key word. Others are pretty lame. I think children today need to be exposed to the old classics though so they will have appreciation for that time period.

~Tropical Punch 19~ · 04-20-2003, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
I miss Growing Pains!

ahhh!! me2. I got obssesed on GP from watching it on disney. Kirk is a HOTTIE!!

I really miss it.

04-20-2003, 04:39 PM	#1
trekkie Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2003 Posts: 224	The Disney Channel (Please Read!) "It is not myself I am thinking about, but it is the affect of what might happen to whatever is left that bothers me" -- Walt Disney The "new" Disney Channel is ignoring the very principles they were founded under and is spitting on the Disney name as a whole. The following comment is from a once proud Disney Channel viewer who has signed the official petition. They sum up our case perfectly: "I live in an area where the Disney Channel is a premium channel. After subscribing for nearly ten years, we unsubscribed in the fall of 1998 ... Fall [of] 1998 was when I started college, so I had grown up with the Disney Channel but had lost interest with the changing program. Without me at home, my parents nixed the channel. Through the 'old' Disney Channel, I was introduced to wonderful old movies. It was on Disney that I first saw a lot of the Disney classics as well as Hollywood classics like the musicals of Rogers and Hammerstein. It used to be programming that my parents and I could watch together when I was younger. Now the only group your channel plays to is the 12 and under crowd. Shame on you! Disney is about family and once this channel was for family, now it’s a commercial filled unwatchable channel for Disney fans. I might as well watch Nickelodeon or MTV and I don't have to pay extra." We are not saying that they should get rid of programs such as Lizzie McGuire and Boy Meets World. Rather, mix current shows in with other daytime programming such as higher quality behind the scenes shows, Classic Hollywood (A Disney Channel series that used to show live action films from Hollywood’s Golden Age), cartoon shorts, old cartoon series from Disney Afternoon (Perhaps the channel could have its own two hour Disney Afternoon show with rotating cartoons each day; like Pepper Ann, Ducktales, Talespin, and Doug one day; Tarzan, Recess, Goof Troop and Darkwing Duck another; and so on), and vintage episodes of Walt Disney’s television shows. Bring back the yearly Animation Festival, Disneyland/Walt Disney World history shows and opening day programs on each parks birthday. It’s not too much to ask for. The station would not only re-gain its legacy and original reputation, but it would undoubtedly receive a broader and more diversified audience. Hey ... Why not just turn Disneyland into a giant playground with shops? There's an idea. After all, it would be cheaper to operate and future generations will know it only it as a giant kiddy area. Not the family entertainment giant it once was. Just like the Disney Channel. If certain areas in this company ignore their principles, they stop the Disney name from flourishing. Not just as a company. But also as a man. A pioneer. Walt Disney, to be precise. Whose philosophy in the Disney Company was always to entice people to visit all of their masterpieces by providing nothing but "High quality family entertainment." The company he built currently preaches about family, yet at the same time ignores the very aspects and principles of family entertainment upon which they were built. When the Disney Channel began to ignore these ideals, they helped to stop the Disney name from flourishing. Not just as a company. And Flourishing into what it was destined to be. But also as a man. And What he was always meant to be. Please sign the petition, get company mailing addresses and join the campaign at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ preservethemagic If anything, transform ABC Family into Walt Disney Family and put old Disney programming there. What is the harm of mixing in classic Disney films and TV shows for current and future generations to enjoy? After all, "this" is where Disney came from; "this" is where Disney was more of a magical legacy than a generic brand name, such as Nickelodeon or MTV. I remember watching Bonanza on the Hallmark Channel one night, and I got kind of teary eyed during the commercial breaks when they showed previews of what westerns, classic Disney films and original all-American movies were coming up. I remember thinking to myself "This is how the Disney Channel used to be; these are the values upon which they were built." The only difference is that Disney included cartoons and other children's programming during weekday mornings and afternoons. But the Hallmark Channel is what the Disney Channel once was; and what the Disney Channel was always meant to be. And It’s sad. Please sign this petition and join the campaign: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ preservethemagic
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04-20-2003, 05:18 PM	#3
Ewan's My Man I'll Cover You Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 29, 2001 Location: Beneath the opera house... Posts: 5,682	I miss Growing Pains!
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04-20-2003, 05:10 PM	#2
Ravey Member Forum Icon Join Date: Apr 02, 2003 Posts: 53,025	I like the way the channel is right now. And all those cartoons they named like Pepper Ann is what Toon Disney is for.....

04-20-2003, 05:21 PM	#4
trekkie Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2003 Posts: 224	You may like it, but what TDC is doing is morally wrong; and if you read my post instead of skimming it like I know you probably did, you'll see why. I know what TDC was built around. And I know who Walt Disney was. I know the principles that he spent 95% of his life building for this company. I know that TDC was built around these principles. And I know what an insult they now are to the Disney name, as both a company, a man and an entire family.

04-20-2003, 05:30 PM	#8
trekkie Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2003 Posts: 224	OK; as long as you read it and understand where we're coming from. At least you're not one of those naive 13 yr olds who see this and won't even read the thing before brutally assaulting me verbally (Which I've had done to me) LOL

04-20-2003, 05:32 PM	#9
trekkie Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2003 Posts: 224	That was direc ted towards ravey

04-20-2003, 05:37 PM	#11
Ravey Member Forum Icon Join Date: Apr 02, 2003 Posts: 53,025	Well I shouldn't say I never liked watching them, when I was like 7 and 8 I liked watching Dark Wing Ducks and the classic movies.

04-20-2003, 05:44 PM	#12
Chad22 Captain Juke N Jive Moderator Forum Addict Join Date: Nov 23, 2002 Location: Caribou, Maine Posts: 71,661	I Agree. I Loved The Disney channel when i was younger and it was alot better (Nickelodeon was too!). But it seems as if both The Disney Channel and Nickelodeon have sold out to please the 12 year olds. Dont get me wrong, I Love Boy Meets World and Smart Guy...But i think showing them once a day is fine. They should air the Sitcoms and stuff at night, and Air some of the older Classic Disney Channel stuff during the day. Man, What happened to Mickey, Donald and Goofy?

04-20-2003, 05:51 PM	#13
trekkie Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2003 Posts: 224	They died

04-20-2003, 05:51 PM	#14
~Tropical Punch 19~ Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 19, 2001 Location: I'm a fly on Clay's wall Posts: 1,961	I agree. i think disney should mix its new stuff and its old classic stuff. I mean some of the enw stuff is good-some being the key word. Others are pretty lame. I think children today need to be exposed to the old classics though so they will have appreciation for that time period.