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AtlantaBravesFan29 · 03-22-2003, 10:42 AM

How many of you absoultely and positively hate the Jonathan Winters episodes??? I do with a purple passion!!! Any others???

DetectiveGriffin · 03-22-2003, 12:09 PM

Whoa. That's some serious hate, man.
I didnt think they were THAT bad.

What was it exactly that got you down .. Jonathan Winters himself or how the show changed.

I was still little when it was on, so it was all fascinating to me.

Now when I watch. I usually do prefer the early eps where Mork is still integrating.

peace.

AtlantaBravesFan29 · 03-22-2003, 12:39 PM

Actually both!!! They changed the whole premise of the show. No Mindy's dad,no Mindy's Grandma.I love the 1978-1981 episodes better than I do the last season.

My thoughts: If they wanted to,they could have had a traditional wedding and everything. Make the show the same as it was before actually having Mindy pregnant,and then if the show lasted longer,we could have seen the baby. I have nothing against Jonathan Winters but the whole idea of it,Mork being pregnant with him. I would have rather seen him in another role on the show than that one.

Brian · 03-22-2003, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by BravesFan712002
Actually both!!! They changed the whole premise of the show. No Mindy's dad,no Mindy's Grandma.I love the 1978-1981 episodes better than I do the last season.

Actually, both Mindy's dad and Grandma were there during the last season. Conrad Janis was gone during the second season but he was a regular during seasons 1, 3, and 4.

Michael L · 03-29-2003, 09:42 AM

I cant stand Johnathen winters he ruined the whole show with that big butt of his his acting was terribell and i hope we never see him on tv ever again no wionder it got canncelled

BundyBoy10 · 04-27-2003, 12:52 PM

I like Jonathan Winters. Hes an okay comedian. I havent seen many of his episodes though. I am not a HUGE fan of the show, but I do try to watch it once or twice a week.

HockeyStar53 · 09-23-2003, 04:07 PM

I totally disagree with you, I think the best episodes where the 1st season, and later the Mearth episodes if you don't count the end.
It was so funny to see Mork & Mearth, and Jonathan Winters made an outstanding performance as Mearth I think.
Something that I don't like is that Jonathan Winters played Frederik McConnell's brother before Mearth came so they looked exactly the same.

mrbig · 01-04-2007, 09:07 AM

I think he is a comic genuis but you can't have 2 genuises on the same show... Robin is the star cuz he stands out and I am sure that alot of the stuff he said on camera was just improv...

ClassicTV4Ever · 01-04-2007, 05:38 PM

Wow! Really really old thread but I'll respond anyway.

I think the entire series was watchable. I didn't hate the final season but I didn't love it either. I didn't get to see the final season until Nick at Nite (so I was a pre-teen when I saw those episodes for the first time) and I was SO disappointed that their "baby" turned out to be an old man! I was really hoping that Mindy had gotten pregnant and they had a normal infant. I think it would have more fun seeing them raise an infant with more human traits, and it would be another Earth experience for Mork. But then I guess had they done that viewers probably would have complained that their family unit was too normal.

EmpressDR · 01-11-2007, 03:51 AM

I LIKED the Mearth eps, because of how Robin's eyes lit up with hero worship for Jonathan Winters.

Quite honestly, though, I thought Robin was SO much more like Jerry Lewis than Winters.

And I recall an interview Gary Marshall did, where he said his son was watching a movie about a spaceman and said that his dad should have a show about a spaceman.
If you look at Jerry Lewis' film "Visit to a Small Planet" you can SEE how much it inspired Mork and Mindy --they even call the make-out area 'Inspiration Point" like in Happy Days.
I don't think Robin ever gave credit to Jerry for being an inspiration as a comedian. Chevy Chase finally admitted that Jerry was an inspiration to HIM, during a tribute to Jerry, instead of the typical 1970's-comic-ass-wiping-to Ernie Kovaks that so many 1970s comics felt required to give. ( although in earlier interviews, Chase DID over-praise and cite Kovaks as his hero )
Except for Dave Letterman, I just didn't see any resemblance to Kovaks in so many of these comics, who were IMHO just being elitists.
To be compared to Jerry Lewis used to be an insult. Steve Martin had openly praised him, then got insulted for doing so.

Yeah! Jerry Lewis was THE TOP movie draw at one time, and did many. many more films than so many newer comics will EVER do! WHAT an insult!

Is there a smilie for "sarcastic?"

There was a show titled "The Ladies' Man" based on Jerry's film, that didn't do well. Maybe Marshall thought he had to hide any Jerry connection.

TV_on_the_Porch · 01-13-2007, 11:10 PM

I enjoyed the final season. I don't have any great difficulty suspending disbelief.

That said, in following the Nielsens that season, there's no denying the effect that Mearth had on the show's numbers: it started the season relatively strong and maintained a very solid second to Magnum P.I. for several weeks--then dropped like a rock. Thud. Something turned the audience off en mass all-of-a-sudden, and I don't think there's much mystery about what it was.

Chocolate Moose · 01-24-2007, 06:09 PM

ME TOO! Not my ball of wax.

Karen64 · 01-28-2007, 01:04 PM

Yeah, the Jonathan Winters thing ruined it; the show went downhill from there! They should have had a "normal baby" who had some of Mork's powers (but then it would have been blasted for being too much like Bewitched...) The writers were trying to be original, I guess, but it justed sucked!

TVFactFan · 01-28-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Karen64

Yeah, the Jonathan Winters thing ruined it; the show went downhill from there! They should have had a "normal baby" who had some of Mork's powers (but then it would have been blasted for being too much like Bewitched...) The writers were trying to be original, I guess, but it justed sucked!

Are you going to tell me you watched this show while you were in highschol?-lol

Karen64 · 01-28-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

Are you going to tell me you watched this show while you were in highschol?-lol

Hey, you're not supposed to remember my age from another sitcom thread! LOL!
I think you're cool, though, no matter what everybody else says!!

03-22-2003, 10:42 AM	#1
AtlantaBravesFan29 Atlanta Braves Fan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 13, 2002 Location: Pleasanton,TX--40 Miles South Of San Antonio Posts: 1,859	How Many People Hate The Jonathan Winters Episodes How many of you absoultely and positively hate the Jonathan Winters episodes??? I do with a purple passion!!! Any others???

03-29-2003, 09:42 AM	#5
Michael L Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2003 Location: usa pennsylvania Posts: 28	Johnathen Winters sucks I cant stand Johnathen winters he ruined the whole show with that big butt of his his acting was terribell and i hope we never see him on tv ever again no wionder it got canncelled
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09-23-2003, 04:07 PM	#7
HockeyStar53 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 23, 2003 Location: Saltsjo-Boo, Sweden Posts: 11	Re: How Many People Hate The Jonathan Winters Episodes I totally disagree with you, I think the best episodes where the 1st season, and later the Mearth episodes if you don't count the end. It was so funny to see Mork & Mearth, and Jonathan Winters made an outstanding performance as Mearth I think. Something that I don't like is that Jonathan Winters played Frederik McConnell's brother before Mearth came so they looked exactly the same.
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01-11-2007, 03:51 AM	#10
EmpressDR Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2004 Location: California Posts: 279	M&M inspired by Jerry Lewis' "Visit to a Small Planet" I LIKED the Mearth eps, because of how Robin's eyes lit up with hero worship for Jonathan Winters. Quite honestly, though, I thought Robin was SO much more like Jerry Lewis than Winters. And I recall an interview Gary Marshall did, where he said his son was watching a movie about a spaceman and said that his dad should have a show about a spaceman. If you look at Jerry Lewis' film "Visit to a Small Planet" you can SEE how much it inspired Mork and Mindy --they even call the make-out area 'Inspiration Point" like in Happy Days. I don't think Robin ever gave credit to Jerry for being an inspiration as a comedian. Chevy Chase finally admitted that Jerry was an inspiration to HIM, during a tribute to Jerry, instead of the typical 1970's-comic-ass-wiping-to Ernie Kovaks that so many 1970s comics felt required to give. ( although in earlier interviews, Chase DID over-praise and cite Kovaks as his hero ) Except for Dave Letterman, I just didn't see any resemblance to Kovaks in so many of these comics, who were IMHO just being elitists. To be compared to Jerry Lewis used to be an insult. Steve Martin had openly praised him, then got insulted for doing so. Yeah! Jerry Lewis was THE TOP movie draw at one time, and did many. many more films than so many newer comics will EVER do! WHAT an insult! Is there a smilie for "sarcastic?" There was a show titled "The Ladies' Man" based on Jerry's film, that didn't do well. Maybe Marshall thought he had to hide any Jerry connection.

01-13-2007, 11:10 PM	#11
TV_on_the_Porch anything good on? Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 879	I enjoyed the final season. I don't have any great difficulty suspending disbelief. That said, in following the Nielsens that season, there's no denying the effect that Mearth had on the show's numbers: it started the season relatively strong and maintained a very solid second to Magnum P.I. for several weeks--then dropped like a rock. Thud. Something turned the audience off en mass all-of-a-sudden, and I don't think there's much mystery about what it was.
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03-22-2003, 12:09 PM	#2
DetectiveGriffin Sankontessou! Senior Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2001 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 1,288	Whoa. That's some serious hate, man. I didnt think they were THAT bad. What was it exactly that got you down .. Jonathan Winters himself or how the show changed. I was still little when it was on, so it was all fascinating to me. Now when I watch. I usually do prefer the early eps where Mork is still integrating. peace.

03-22-2003, 12:39 PM	#3
AtlantaBravesFan29 Atlanta Braves Fan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 13, 2002 Location: Pleasanton,TX--40 Miles South Of San Antonio Posts: 1,859	Actually both!!! They changed the whole premise of the show. No Mindy's dad,no Mindy's Grandma.I love the 1978-1981 episodes better than I do the last season. My thoughts: If they wanted to,they could have had a traditional wedding and everything. Make the show the same as it was before actually having Mindy pregnant,and then if the show lasted longer,we could have seen the baby. I have nothing against Jonathan Winters but the whole idea of it,Mork being pregnant with him. I would have rather seen him in another role on the show than that one.

04-27-2003, 12:52 PM	#6
BundyBoy10 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2002 Posts: 311	I like Jonathan Winters. Hes an okay comedian. I havent seen many of his episodes though. I am not a HUGE fan of the show, but I do try to watch it once or twice a week.

01-04-2007, 09:07 AM	#8
mrbig Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 04, 2007 Location: london, Ontario, canada Posts: 83	I think he is a comic genuis but you can't have 2 genuises on the same show... Robin is the star cuz he stands out and I am sure that alot of the stuff he said on camera was just improv...

01-04-2007, 05:38 PM	#9
ClassicTV4Ever Coming November 27th! Senior Member Join Date: May 02, 2002 Location: TV Land! Posts: 1,421	Wow! Really really old thread but I'll respond anyway. I think the entire series was watchable. I didn't hate the final season but I didn't love it either. I didn't get to see the final season until Nick at Nite (so I was a pre-teen when I saw those episodes for the first time) and I was SO disappointed that their "baby" turned out to be an old man! I was really hoping that Mindy had gotten pregnant and they had a normal infant. I think it would have more fun seeing them raise an infant with more human traits, and it would be another Earth experience for Mork. But then I guess had they done that viewers probably would have complained that their family unit was too normal.

01-24-2007, 06:09 PM	#12
Chocolate Moose Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 4,893	ME TOO! Not my ball of wax.

01-28-2007, 01:04 PM	#13
Karen64 Comedy Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 24, 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,412	Yeah, the Jonathan Winters thing ruined it; the show went downhill from there! They should have had a "normal baby" who had some of Mork's powers (but then it would have been blasted for being too much like Bewitched...) The writers were trying to be original, I guess, but it justed sucked!
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