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White_Daisy · 03-03-2003, 10:43 PM

I got into a discussion (read: big, huge screaming fight) over Drunk Driving with my friends because they felt my take on it was too harsh.

I believe that if you have been caught driving drunk, your license should be revoked for five years, no matter how old you are, no matter if you live in rural Alaska and that's your only form of transportation. No warnings, no second warnings, no daddy's-gonna-get-me-out-of-it. You pay the price with no license for five years.

If you drive drunk and kill someone, that was a murder. A flat-out murder. There is no manslaughter option to be considered. Personally, i disagree with manslaughter unless you accidently dropped a chainsaw on someone and i mean ACCIDENT. If you were driving drunk and killed someone, you murdered them. And you should get maximum time for that.

It's kinda surprising that I'm so anti-war, yet so pro-harsher punishments.

White_Daisy · 03-03-2003, 10:43 PM

By the way, what's your view?

-*Leah*- · 03-03-2003, 10:50 PM

I dunno if agree that if people just get caught that they should get their licence taken away for 5 years, but I do believe that they should HAVE to stay in jain for 6 months, but I do agree with you that if they have a wreck and kill someone, they SHOULD DEFINATLEY get the maximum punishment, whether it be life in prison, or death by injection. I agree, nobody should EVER drive drunk... EVER.

AnaheimPMWitch · 03-03-2003, 11:09 PM

WD
I TOTALLY agree with you My take on it if YOU'VE been drinking YOU shouldnt be driving
friends dont let friends drive drunk I know is cliche' but its true

White_Daisy · 03-03-2003, 11:11 PM

You know what pisses me off? When people get off for drunk driving with no punishment.

After DARE, SADDD (or whatever they are now), MADD, and every single other program known to mankind, people still have the stupidity to drink and drive. Even if you have zoned out for years, you still hear something in the back of your head saying, "NO." Listen to the voice people, you're not schizophrenic, it's Jiminy Cricket.

Hollow · 03-03-2003, 11:27 PM

it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

Chad22 · 03-03-2003, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

Im sure no one means to kill anyone. But i agree with the above posts, If you do it in the first place, Its your fault. Personally if i drank and drove (Which i dont do either actually

) And accidently hit and killed someone, I Wouldnt do it again anyway, Out of pure Guilt.

Nanny Fine · 03-04-2003, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelly Osbourne
it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

Oh yes it can be. Vehicular manslaughter, Vehicular Manslaughter without Intent...

Fleet · 03-04-2003, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by White_Daisy
By the way, what's your view?

I agree. The laws should be more strict.
A lot of drunk drivers (and potential drunk drivers) know that a first offense will not be too hard on them. So they take a chance and possibly kill someone. When you are behind the wheel, you are responsible for your actions.

Chad22 · 03-04-2003, 01:45 AM

Actually guys. I Wasnt going to mention this, But i think its pretty appropriate for this topic.

I was once almost killed by a drunk driver. When i was 4 years old i was riding in A Jeep with my Mom and Dad. Their were only 2 seats, So i sat in the middle of them. And their were a few drunk people in the car behind us. Anyway, They hit us, And Both my Mom and i went flying out of the jeep, And The jeep even rolled over on my Dad after he fell out. We still have alot of pictures from after it too. My Face was covered in blood, Considering i was only 4 Years old i am very lucky i made it. I Dont remember it at all, But i do remember being at my Grampy and Grammys house after it crying hard.

So the fact is, Drunk Driving is something i really hate. I was lucky enough to survive it, But think about all the Kids that may not have been so lucky. Its really sad that they have to lose Their entire future and miss out on their wedding, graduation and opther stuff like that. All so a few guys can go out and have a good time...Than drive home. Its really really sad.

Chocoholic · 03-04-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by White_Daisy

I believe that if you have been caught driving drunk, your license should be revoked for five years, no matter how old you are, no matter if you live in rural Alaska and that's your only form of transportation. No warnings, no second warnings, no daddy's-gonna-get-me-out-of-it. You pay the price with no license for five years.

If you drive drunk and kill someone, that was a murder. A flat-out murder. There is no manslaughter option to be considered. Personally, i disagree with manslaughter unless you accidently dropped a chainsaw on someone and i mean ACCIDENT. If you were driving drunk and killed someone, you murdered them. And you should get maximum time for that.

I totally agree! I'm tired of people not being forced to take responsability for their actions. If you drive under the influence of alcohol or drugs, you should pay the price.

I also feel that people who talk on their cellphones and cause an accident that kills someone should also be charged with murder.

*PinkLady* · 03-04-2003, 06:31 PM

If you didn't intend to kill someone while drunk driving, you still intended to engage in behaviors that you knew were destructive and dangerous. You know you can get in trouble, but you do it regardless. To me, that makes it murder.

Jem · 03-04-2003, 06:35 PM

Maybe people who drive drunk and kill someone should get the death penalty. How different is it than people who shoot or stab people to death and get the death penalty? They're still taking a person's life, no matter what.

Rhiannon · 03-04-2003, 06:36 PM

I hate people who drive drunk...I think police need to raise the penalty for it if you are caught. I have been lucky, I don't know anyone killed by a drunk driver.

DetectiveGriffin · 03-04-2003, 06:56 PM

I believe just about everything a person does is on purpose.
You cannot accidentally drunk drive and accidentally kill someone - people know before they take that first drink that they will be impaired. A lot of folks pretend they won't.
I hear that kind of thing from teenagers a lot, "I'll drive home drunk and let God decide."

Since the bible repeatedly says things like, "do not harm a single one of my children, for their angels have constant access to my Father", I can only imagine God is pretty horrified by that line of thinking.

I think people know the risk they are taking and just choose to ignore it, out of selfishness and stupidity.

03-03-2003, 10:43 PM	#1
White_Daisy blank Senior Member Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Posts: 2,374	Drunk Driving I got into a discussion (read: big, huge screaming fight) over Drunk Driving with my friends because they felt my take on it was too harsh. I believe that if you have been caught driving drunk, your license should be revoked for five years, no matter how old you are, no matter if you live in rural Alaska and that's your only form of transportation. No warnings, no second warnings, no daddy's-gonna-get-me-out-of-it. You pay the price with no license for five years. If you drive drunk and kill someone, that was a murder. A flat-out murder. There is no manslaughter option to be considered. Personally, i disagree with manslaughter unless you accidently dropped a chainsaw on someone and i mean ACCIDENT. If you were driving drunk and killed someone, you murdered them. And you should get maximum time for that. It's kinda surprising that I'm so anti-war, yet so pro-harsher punishments.
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03-03-2003, 10:50 PM	#3
-Leah- Back for More Forum Fanatic Join Date: Jan 15, 2003 Posts: 10,563	I dunno if agree that if people just get caught that they should get their licence taken away for 5 years, but I do believe that they should HAVE to stay in jain for 6 months, but I do agree with you that if they have a wreck and kill someone, they SHOULD DEFINATLEY get the maximum punishment, whether it be life in prison, or death by injection. I agree, nobody should EVER drive drunk... EVER.
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03-03-2003, 11:09 PM	#4
AnaheimPMWitch AKA CaitlinMoore2002 Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 08, 2002 Location: in the Las Vegas Crime Lab hangin with Nick and Sara Posts: 4,973	WD I TOTALLY agree with you My take on it if YOU'VE been drinking YOU shouldnt be driving friends dont let friends drive drunk I know is cliche' but its true
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03-04-2003, 06:35 PM	#13
Jem Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 25, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 625	Maybe people who drive drunk and kill someone should get the death penalty. How different is it than people who shoot or stab people to death and get the death penalty? They're still taking a person's life, no matter what.
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03-04-2003, 06:36 PM	#14
Rhiannon oh, snap! Forum Fanatic Join Date: Jul 19, 2002 Location: middle of nowhere Posts: 11,097	I hate people who drive drunk...I think police need to raise the penalty for it if you are caught. I have been lucky, I don't know anyone killed by a drunk driver.
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03-03-2003, 11:11 PM	#5
White_Daisy blank Senior Member Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Posts: 2,374	You know what pisses me off? When people get off for drunk driving with no punishment. After DARE, SADDD (or whatever they are now), MADD, and every single other program known to mankind, people still have the stupidity to drink and drive. Even if you have zoned out for years, you still hear something in the back of your head saying, "NO." Listen to the voice people, you're not schizophrenic, it's Jiminy Cricket.

03-03-2003, 11:27 PM	#6
Hollow Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 16, 2001 Posts: 30,406	it aint a murder when u wreck cuz it aint on purpose

03-04-2003, 01:45 AM	#10
Chad22 Captain Juke N Jive Moderator Forum Addict Join Date: Nov 23, 2002 Location: Caribou, Maine Posts: 71,662	Actually guys. I Wasnt going to mention this, But i think its pretty appropriate for this topic. I was once almost killed by a drunk driver. When i was 4 years old i was riding in A Jeep with my Mom and Dad. Their were only 2 seats, So i sat in the middle of them. And their were a few drunk people in the car behind us. Anyway, They hit us, And Both my Mom and i went flying out of the jeep, And The jeep even rolled over on my Dad after he fell out. We still have alot of pictures from after it too. My Face was covered in blood, Considering i was only 4 Years old i am very lucky i made it. I Dont remember it at all, But i do remember being at my Grampy and Grammys house after it crying hard. So the fact is, Drunk Driving is something i really hate. I was lucky enough to survive it, But think about all the Kids that may not have been so lucky. Its really sad that they have to lose Their entire future and miss out on their wedding, graduation and opther stuff like that. All so a few guys can go out and have a good time...Than drive home. Its really really sad.

03-04-2003, 06:31 PM	#12
PinkLady Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 04, 2002 Posts: 7,457	If you didn't intend to kill someone while drunk driving, you still intended to engage in behaviors that you knew were destructive and dangerous. You know you can get in trouble, but you do it regardless. To me, that makes it murder.

03-04-2003, 06:56 PM	#15
DetectiveGriffin Sankontessou! Senior Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2001 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 1,289	I believe just about everything a person does is on purpose. You cannot accidentally drunk drive and accidentally kill someone - people know before they take that first drink that they will be impaired. A lot of folks pretend they won't. I hear that kind of thing from teenagers a lot, "I'll drive home drunk and let God decide." Since the bible repeatedly says things like, "do not harm a single one of my children, for their angels have constant access to my Father", I can only imagine God is pretty horrified by that line of thinking. I think people know the risk they are taking and just choose to ignore it, out of selfishness and stupidity.