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TVFactFan · 02-09-2003, 07:21 PM

These are the spinoffs that didn't need to be showed

1.Gloria
2.Sanford Arms
3.Grady
4.Checking In
5.Joanie Loves Chachi

If you think about, the mainb characters in all of these shows had minor roles on their parent show. None of these characters were secondary which is why the spinoffs didn't last.

Grady was not a secondary character
Gloria was no where near a secondary character
joanie and chachi were not secondary characters
Florence was not a secondary. character

You cannot take a character who has a minor role on a Hit Show and give them their own show. It just doesn't work. That's like taking Larry off Three's Comany, Elvin and Sondra off the cosby show, and Lenny off lavere and Shirley.

Brian · 02-10-2003, 10:00 PM

Gloria would have only worked if Mike were still in it. The Sanford Arms definitely had no business being created because it didn't have Lamond or Fred. Grady was not a poular enough character IMO so he shouldn't have had his own series. I think Checking In and Joanie Loves Chachi would have worked but only if they were continuation series.

TVFactFan · 02-11-2003, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by BJL
Gloria would have only worked if Mike were still in it. The Sanford Arms definitely had no business being created because it didn't have Lamond or Fred. Grady was not a poular enough character IMO so he shouldn't have had his own series. I think Checking In and Joanie Loves Chachi would have worked but only if they were continuation series.

Most spinoffs that were successful had two characters from the parent show starting their own series. For example, Louise and George Jefferson, Florida and Henry(James)Evans, Carl and Harriet Winslow, Laverne and Shirley.

I think the only successful spinoff that had only one character from the Parent show was Maude. It may be more i'm not sure.

Janice · 02-11-2003, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON

Most spinoffs that were successful had two characters from the parent show starting their own series. For example, Louise and George Jefferson, Florida and Henry(James)Evans, Carl and Harriet Winslow, Laverne and Shirley.

I think the only successful spinoff that had only one character from the Parent show was Maude. It may be more i'm not sure.

Don't forget about Frasier. Lou Grant had a 5-year run too.

Brian Damage · 02-11-2003, 03:28 PM

I think the real reason why these spinoffs failed is because they were poorly executed and not well thought out as their parent shows.

TVFactFan · 02-11-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Janice

Don't forget about Frasier. Lou Grant had a 5-year run too.

Did Fraiser have a big role on Cheers?

Doug · 02-11-2003, 07:53 PM

GRADY came about after Redd Foxx walked out on SANFORD AND SON for a couple of months. To compensate, the producers had Grady move in with Lamont until Fred returned. The producers and network were impressed with Whitman Mayo. The ratings for the series held up and fan response was positive -- Mayo received a lot more fan mail during this period. So it convinced the network to give Mayo his own shot at a series and GRADY was born. Unfortunately, the format of GRADY wasn't very interesting, and he returned to SANFORD the following year.

TVFactFan · 02-11-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Doug
GRADY came about after Redd Foxx walked out on SANFORD AND SON for a couple of months. To compensate, the producers had Grady move in with Lamont until Fred returned. The producers and network were impressed with Whitman Mayo. The ratings for the series held up and fan response was positive -- Mayo received a lot more fan mail during this period. So it convinced the network to give Mayo his own shot at a series and GRADY was born. Unfortunately, the format of GRADY wasn't very interesting, and he returned to SANFORD the following year.

But it was a entire new cast that surrounded him. Which is why it didn't work.

Janice · 02-11-2003, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON

Did Fraiser have a big role on Cheers?

He had a decent size role in an ensemble cast.

TVFactFan · 02-11-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Janice

He had a decent size role in an ensemble cast.

Well that's why it worked.

Janice · 02-11-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON

Well that's why it worked.

Solomon, you talk in circles. What's your point? You asked for an example of one person doing a spinoff as opposed to two characters, and I gave you two examples, and now I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
You always have to have the last word and make it seem like you proved someone wrong.

TVFactFan · 02-11-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Janice

Solomon, you talk in circles. What's your point? You asked for an example of one person doing a spinoff as opposed to two characters, and I gave you two examples, and now I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
You always have to have the last word and make it seem like you proved someone wrong.

That statement i made wasn't posted to prove you wrong, i said it worked with Fraiser and Lou grant because their roles were larger on the parent show. That was a statement i made a couple of posts ago. Now, Grady, Florence, and Gloria roles were not important enough for viewers to watch a entirely seperate show with just those characters and new cast members. UNDERSTAND NOW?

DominosPizza · 02-12-2003, 12:11 PM

Rhoda lasted a while..

Phyllis did OK.

Enos "BOMBED"

"Tortellis" Bombed

"Ropers" did ok..I thought that show was better.

"Fish" lasted a year but was syndicated

Different World lasted a while..I hated that show..And I think the main character that it focused on left after one season..I wonder why..?

Facts of Life took a character not used significantly from Diffrent Strokes and ran with it...Again..I hated both shows but I can't argue with the success..

Lou Grant impressed me because it took a live audience comical character and put him in a hour long "drama" type show.

Brian Damage · 02-12-2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON

That statement i made wasn't posted to prove you wrong, i said it worked with Fraiser and Lou grant because their roles were larger on the parent show. That was a statement i made a couple of posts ago. Now, Grady, Florence, and Gloria roles were not important enough for viewers to watch a entirely seperate show with just those characters and new cast members. UNDERSTAND NOW?

You really don't make any sense Solomon because you're saying that certain sitcoms didn't work because the characters weren't important enough. Maude succeeded and she didn't have an important role on All in the Family. Gloria had a big role on that show and her spinoff failed. Janice is right, you are talking in circles so you can make yourself appear right.

David · 02-12-2003, 06:30 PM

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02-09-2003, 07:21 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 98,983	Spinoffs that had no business being created These are the spinoffs that didn't need to be showed 1.Gloria 2.Sanford Arms 3.Grady 4.Checking In 5.Joanie Loves Chachi If you think about, the mainb characters in all of these shows had minor roles on their parent show. None of these characters were secondary which is why the spinoffs didn't last. Grady was not a secondary character Gloria was no where near a secondary character joanie and chachi were not secondary characters Florence was not a secondary. character You cannot take a character who has a minor role on a Hit Show and give them their own show. It just doesn't work. That's like taking Larry off Three's Comany, Elvin and Sondra off the cosby show, and Lenny off lavere and Shirley.

02-11-2003, 03:28 PM	#5
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,108	I think the real reason why these spinoffs failed is because they were poorly executed and not well thought out as their parent shows.
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02-11-2003, 07:53 PM	#7
Doug Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 22, 2001 Location: Canton, Ohio USA Posts: 61	GRADY GRADY came about after Redd Foxx walked out on SANFORD AND SON for a couple of months. To compensate, the producers had Grady move in with Lamont until Fred returned. The producers and network were impressed with Whitman Mayo. The ratings for the series held up and fan response was positive -- Mayo received a lot more fan mail during this period. So it convinced the network to give Mayo his own shot at a series and GRADY was born. Unfortunately, the format of GRADY wasn't very interesting, and he returned to SANFORD the following year.

02-12-2003, 12:11 PM	#13
DominosPizza Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 30, 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 8	Rhoda lasted a while.. Phyllis did OK. Enos "BOMBED" "Tortellis" Bombed "Ropers" did ok..I thought that show was better. "Fish" lasted a year but was syndicated Different World lasted a while..I hated that show..And I think the main character that it focused on left after one season..I wonder why..? Facts of Life took a character not used significantly from Diffrent Strokes and ran with it...Again..I hated both shows but I can't argue with the success.. Lou Grant impressed me because it took a live audience comical character and put him in a hour long "drama" type show.
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02-10-2003, 10:00 PM	#2
Brian Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Jun 23, 2001 Posts: 20,451	Gloria would have only worked if Mike were still in it. The Sanford Arms definitely had no business being created because it didn't have Lamond or Fred. Grady was not a poular enough character IMO so he shouldn't have had his own series. I think Checking In and Joanie Loves Chachi would have worked but only if they were continuation series.