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IheartMoonlighting · 02-08-2003, 07:01 PM

A lot of people seem to have a problem with the Grace married to Leo storyline. I think that did change the show but I don't think that is the problem, the problem is that Will and Grace do not live in the same apartment bldg. We have had two seaons where Grace didn't live with Will, so that's not the problem. I think they should figure a way to move Grace in the bldg.

anyone got any ideas?

Janice · 02-14-2003, 01:37 AM

Grace moving into the building could help, but I'm not so sure. I think the problem runs deeper than that. Her marriage changed the entire dynamic of the show and drastically changed her relationship with Will.
They don't seem connected anymore. They don't appear in as many scenes together as they used to. The show seems in disarray to me.
It's not the same show. I used to love the banter between Will & Grace. They were just so close and funny together. I didn't like it when they lived apart in the same building, and I like it even less with her living so far away and married.
I think the show has lost its heart. It's supposed to be about Will & Grace. For example, tonight's show with Demi Moore, which I thought was horrible....anyway, if someone was watching that show for the first time and didn't know its title, they wouldn't even make a Will & Grace connection.
I think the only remedy is to lose Leo. Otherwise, it's taking that leap over the shark, which is nipping at its heels now anyway.

sonyab · 02-14-2003, 01:49 PM

the show already jumped the shark.. and boy will and grace dont even know how old they are.. one episode grace says she is 28 then a few episodes later she says she is 30 and last nigt's episode will says to demi moore's charactor that he is 40.. will and grace are the same age and jack is a little younger.. they just dont know how old they are.. make up your minds guys how old are you?

callmetootie · 02-18-2003, 02:42 PM

The problem is that the writers have turned Grace into a whining brat, and she doesn't have the chemistry that she had with Will anymore. She whines and cries about Leo, and doesn't even have contact with Will in some episodes. They need to drop the Leo thing as soon as possible, and get Grace back with Will. As I understand, HCJr. had a 12 episode contract, and still has episodes that need to air. This means that the character may be gone after those 12 episodes, and a divorce plotline could be in place. The writers seem to be cashing in on the energy of Karen and Jack, but they can only take so much out of the two.

harper · 06-05-2003, 09:46 AM

there characters are 1 note jokes,.there both selfish,and ego and it gets boring.The rosario maid thing is not funny anymore.Will and grace need to get back to Will and grace,their banter and physical inneractions are the foundation of the show.The show was becoming the Karen and Jack show it seems.The best part is when the show is showcasing each person for a moment here and there,Karen needs a man who can soften her a bit.Her character is like carla on cheers.I know the writers try to keep the show grounded in reality as much as possible so they do need to keep the characters as real and not as cartoon or as over the top as they get.jack being a father to his son showed that jack has a paternal instinct.Karen can be funny just trying to relate to someone who isn't like her,Will and grace needs the lead actors to be in the spotlight if this show is to have any life.

Karen&HerPoodle · 06-05-2003, 01:46 PM

Ditch Leo is all im saying. The show would be much more funnier and fresh as it used to be.

02-08-2003, 07:01 PM	#1
IheartMoonlighting David & Maddie Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 01, 2002 Location: Blue Moon Detective Agency Posts: 318	A way to fix the problem A lot of people seem to have a problem with the Grace married to Leo storyline. I think that did change the show but I don't think that is the problem, the problem is that Will and Grace do not live in the same apartment bldg. We have had two seaons where Grace didn't live with Will, so that's not the problem. I think they should figure a way to move Grace in the bldg. anyone got any ideas?
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02-14-2003, 01:49 PM	#3
sonyab Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 03, 2002 Location: rochester ny Posts: 288	jumping the shark the show already jumped the shark.. and boy will and grace dont even know how old they are.. one episode grace says she is 28 then a few episodes later she says she is 30 and last nigt's episode will says to demi moore's charactor that he is 40.. will and grace are the same age and jack is a little younger.. they just dont know how old they are.. make up your minds guys how old are you?

02-18-2003, 02:42 PM	#4
callmetootie Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 4,768	The problem is that the writers have turned Grace into a whining brat, and she doesn't have the chemistry that she had with Will anymore. She whines and cries about Leo, and doesn't even have contact with Will in some episodes. They need to drop the Leo thing as soon as possible, and get Grace back with Will. As I understand, HCJr. had a 12 episode contract, and still has episodes that need to air. This means that the character may be gone after those 12 episodes, and a divorce plotline could be in place. The writers seem to be cashing in on the energy of Karen and Jack, but they can only take so much out of the two.
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06-05-2003, 09:46 AM	#5
harper gentlegiant Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 04, 2003 Location: Towson,Maryland Posts: 130	nothing person to jack and karen,but there characters are 1 note jokes,.there both selfish,and ego and it gets boring.The rosario maid thing is not funny anymore.Will and grace need to get back to Will and grace,their banter and physical inneractions are the foundation of the show.The show was becoming the Karen and Jack show it seems.The best part is when the show is showcasing each person for a moment here and there,Karen needs a man who can soften her a bit.Her character is like carla on cheers.I know the writers try to keep the show grounded in reality as much as possible so they do need to keep the characters as real and not as cartoon or as over the top as they get.jack being a father to his son showed that jack has a paternal instinct.Karen can be funny just trying to relate to someone who isn't like her,Will and grace needs the lead actors to be in the spotlight if this show is to have any life.
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02-14-2003, 01:37 AM	#2
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Grace moving into the building could help, but I'm not so sure. I think the problem runs deeper than that. Her marriage changed the entire dynamic of the show and drastically changed her relationship with Will. They don't seem connected anymore. They don't appear in as many scenes together as they used to. The show seems in disarray to me. It's not the same show. I used to love the banter between Will & Grace. They were just so close and funny together. I didn't like it when they lived apart in the same building, and I like it even less with her living so far away and married. I think the show has lost its heart. It's supposed to be about Will & Grace. For example, tonight's show with Demi Moore, which I thought was horrible....anyway, if someone was watching that show for the first time and didn't know its title, they wouldn't even make a Will & Grace connection. I think the only remedy is to lose Leo. Otherwise, it's taking that leap over the shark, which is nipping at its heels now anyway.

06-05-2003, 01:46 PM	#6
Karen&HerPoodle Banned Banned!! Occasional Poster Join Date: May 30, 2003 Location: Ca Posts: 22	Ditch Leo is all im saying. The show would be much more funnier and fresh as it used to be.