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TVFactFan · 02-08-2003, 06:54 PM

I'm sittimg here looking at how pathetic the Gloria character looks in this two-part episode. Mike leaves her and now she is a single mother with no job and doesn't know what the direction to go in. She is crying and moaning while Mike is hooked up with a home coming Queen. Couldn't she jus have stayed away from ABP like Rob Reiner did? I thought when Mike and Gloria moved to California, that was the end of those characters. That's why I'm trying to figure out why Sally Struthers returned if she was written off. Maybe she had no other gigs.

DarleneIllyria · 02-08-2003, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON
Maybe she had no other gigs.

I think that's what it was. Rob and Sally were both geared up to leave AITF to get other projects. Sally didn't have much success, I suppose.

The Sally episodes from today were okay. I thought Gloria would've taken the whole thing more strongly. Gloria was such a strong character on AITF. Then again, I suppose even the strong people are shook up when their marriage ends.

jon123 · 02-09-2003, 05:36 AM

After this episode (not counting "Gloria, the First Day" which will be shown today but was never aired originally on ABP) Gloria did stay away from ABP. I remember how disappointed I was that there were no crossovers between Gloria and ABP during the season Gloria was on, and guess what, at the end of that season both shows were cancelled. I applaud Gloria's decision to make it on her own but from the show's standpoint, it would have been better if she had stayed with Archie (or maybe moved back next door). At least she made this one guest appearance, while she had left the show the character is still Archie's daughter and it made sense for her to visit from time to time. I thought the Gloria series was awful and perhaps another alternative would have to keep Mike and Gloria together(and spare us that rediculous commune) and have Gloria and Joey visit more often but without Mike if Rob Reiner did not want to appear.

TVFactFan · 02-09-2003, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by jon123
After this episode (not counting "Gloria, the First Day" which will be shown today but was never aired originally on ABP) Gloria did stay away from ABP. I remember how disappointed I was that there were no crossovers between Gloria and ABP during the season Gloria was on, and guess what, at the end of that season both shows were cancelled. I applaud Gloria's decision to make it on her own but from the show's standpoint, it would have been better if she had stayed with Archie (or maybe moved back next door). At least she made this one guest appearance, while she had left the show the character is still Archie's daughter and it made sense for her to visit from time to time. I thought the Gloria series was awful and perhaps another alternative would have to keep Mike and Gloria together(and spare us that rediculous commune) and have Gloria and Joey visit more often but without Mike if Rob Reiner did not want to appear.

It's just amazing that Archie never appered on none of the AITF spinoffs. But i think the Gloria episode TV LAND is showing today is the one they showed back in the fall-I could be wrong.

DarleneIllyria · 02-09-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by jon123
After this episode (not counting "Gloria, the First Day" which will be shown today but was never aired originally on ABP) Gloria did stay away from ABP. I remember how disappointed I was that there were no crossovers between Gloria and ABP during the season Gloria was on, and guess what, at the end of that season both shows were cancelled. I applaud Gloria's decision to make it on her own but from the show's standpoint, it would have been better if she had stayed with Archie (or maybe moved back next door). At least she made this one guest appearance, while she had left the show the character is still Archie's daughter and it made sense for her to visit from time to time. I thought the Gloria series was awful and perhaps another alternative would have to keep Mike and Gloria together(and spare us that rediculous commune) and have Gloria and Joey visit more often but without Mike if Rob Reiner did not want to appear.

Both shows were canceled at the same time? It's a shame they couldn't get Rob back for at least one more episode of ABP. I hated that final episode of Archie Bunker's Place. I absolutely hated it. They could've had Gloria move next door (like you said) and then Mike leave the commune and try to win back Gloria. That would've been a good ending.

I don't know about you guys, but it just looked so lonely to see Gloria and Archie in that episode. Edith's dead and Mike's left, we'll never see the gang back together again. That's what really sucks.

TVFactFan · 02-09-2003, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Jenny

Both shows were canceled at the same time? It's a shame they couldn't get Rob back for at least one more episode of ABP. I hated that final episode of Archie Bunker's Place. I absolutely hated it. They could've had Gloria move next door (like you said) and then Mike leave the commune and try to win back Gloria. That would've been a good ending.

I don't know about you guys, but it just looked so lonely to see Gloria and Archie in that episode. Edith's dead and Mike's left, we'll never see the gang back together again. That's what really sucks.

I just don't know how the producers thought a show that revolved around the Gloria character would last. I mean Gloria wasn't really a character that entertained the viewers of AITF which is why her show didn't last. That's like giving Maude's daughter Carol her own show or Giving Lionel Jefferson his own show.

jon123 · 02-09-2003, 10:27 PM

I almost would have rather seen a show with Carol or Lionel by themselves. Even my pets thought this episode stunk.

It's strange that while Mike moved to a commune, Gloria didn't really have her own space and privacy at her digs either. For once I wish Archie was right (when he said Gloria wouldn't make it at Dr. Adams' place). Gloria and Joey could have moved into Archie's basement and been better off. If anything was worse than seeing Archie without the rest of his original family, it was seeing Gloria without the family.

Had Gloria just joined the cast of ABP instead of her own show she could also interact with Billie and Stephanie and gang up on Archie and it would have been great. They could have eliminated or reduced the role of some of the characters at the bar and the result would have been a better show overall and it may have lasted a few more years.

As sad as it was just seeing Archie and Gloria left, we have the happy memories of AITF early years that will be with us in rerun heaven forever.

El_Presidente · 07-15-2003, 03:41 AM

They should have made a spinoff with the blind old dude tryng to pur a glass of water into a cup on top of a washing macine in use.
Each episode they'd focus on the people interrupting his attempts, as well as special gues stars such as Andrea Bocelli, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles and Bob the Pencil salesman from 86th and Lexington.

db108108 · 10-17-2003, 12:32 AM

Archie did appear in one of the spin-offs. The first time I remember seeing his character was in an episode of Maude

TVFactFan · 10-17-2003, 05:35 PM

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Archie did appear in one of the spin-offs. The first time I remember seeing his character was in an episode of Maude

The character Archie Bunker never appeared on any of the All in the Family Spinoffs. He appeared in the pilot of Maude which was aAll in the Family episode. Never apperaed on Maude once the show premeired in the fall of 1972.

TJAMES03 · 01-08-2006, 09:36 AM

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Archie did appear in one of the spin-offs. The first time I remember seeing his character was in an episode of Maude

No, Archie was never on Maude. Don't get confused with some episodes of The Jeffersons either. When Archie was at their "deluxe apartment" it was only on "AITF." Archie and Edith appeared in the flashbacks of Loiuse and George in a later season, but that is it.

An 80s Guy · 01-14-2006, 09:09 PM

if Mike and Gloria was split up how come they both went to spend Thanksgiving with the Bunkers

TVFactFan · 01-14-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TJAMES03

No, Archie was never on Maude. Don't get confused with some episodes of The Jeffersons either. When Archie was at their "deluxe apartment" it was only on "AITF." Archie and Edith appeared in the flashbacks of Loiuse and George in a later season, but that is it.

Archie was never at the Jeffersons APT, he was just referred to

JeffRuss1972 · 01-15-2006, 01:25 AM

I hated how they dealt with the Mike character leaving Gloria and Joey. It always seemed tacky. Always caught myself thinking "Mike would never do THAT." I prefer to think of them all as they were on AITF.

An 80s Guy · 01-15-2006, 11:13 AM

yeah me too

02-08-2003, 06:54 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,050	Why I feel the Gloria character should have stayed away like Mike Stivic I'm sittimg here looking at how pathetic the Gloria character looks in this two-part episode. Mike leaves her and now she is a single mother with no job and doesn't know what the direction to go in. She is crying and moaning while Mike is hooked up with a home coming Queen. Couldn't she jus have stayed away from ABP like Rob Reiner did? I thought when Mike and Gloria moved to California, that was the end of those characters. That's why I'm trying to figure out why Sally Struthers returned if she was written off. Maybe she had no other gigs.

01-15-2006, 01:25 AM	#14
JeffRuss1972 70s Sitcoms Rule!!! Eternal Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 11, 2005 Location: Villa Rica, GA Posts: 1,257	I hated how they dealt with the Mike character leaving Gloria and Joey. It always seemed tacky. Always caught myself thinking "Mike would never do THAT." I prefer to think of them all as they were on AITF.
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02-09-2003, 05:36 AM	#3
jon123 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 04, 2002 Location: Temecula Valley, CA Posts: 395	After this episode (not counting "Gloria, the First Day" which will be shown today but was never aired originally on ABP) Gloria did stay away from ABP. I remember how disappointed I was that there were no crossovers between Gloria and ABP during the season Gloria was on, and guess what, at the end of that season both shows were cancelled. I applaud Gloria's decision to make it on her own but from the show's standpoint, it would have been better if she had stayed with Archie (or maybe moved back next door). At least she made this one guest appearance, while she had left the show the character is still Archie's daughter and it made sense for her to visit from time to time. I thought the Gloria series was awful and perhaps another alternative would have to keep Mike and Gloria together(and spare us that rediculous commune) and have Gloria and Joey visit more often but without Mike if Rob Reiner did not want to appear.

02-09-2003, 10:27 PM	#7
jon123 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 04, 2002 Location: Temecula Valley, CA Posts: 395	I almost would have rather seen a show with Carol or Lionel by themselves. Even my pets thought this episode stunk. It's strange that while Mike moved to a commune, Gloria didn't really have her own space and privacy at her digs either. For once I wish Archie was right (when he said Gloria wouldn't make it at Dr. Adams' place). Gloria and Joey could have moved into Archie's basement and been better off. If anything was worse than seeing Archie without the rest of his original family, it was seeing Gloria without the family. Had Gloria just joined the cast of ABP instead of her own show she could also interact with Billie and Stephanie and gang up on Archie and it would have been great. They could have eliminated or reduced the role of some of the characters at the bar and the result would have been a better show overall and it may have lasted a few more years. As sad as it was just seeing Archie and Gloria left, we have the happy memories of AITF early years that will be with us in rerun heaven forever.

07-15-2003, 03:41 AM	#8
El_Presidente Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 13, 2003 Location: Capital Of The World (NYC) Posts: 57	They should have made a spinoff with the blind old dude tryng to pur a glass of water into a cup on top of a washing macine in use. Each episode they'd focus on the people interrupting his attempts, as well as special gues stars such as Andrea Bocelli, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles and Bob the Pencil salesman from 86th and Lexington.

10-17-2003, 12:32 AM	#9
db108108 Teacher (for now) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 20, 2003 Location: 2 hours north of Detroit, 2 hours south of Toronto Posts: 1,023	Archie did appear in one of the spin-offs. The first time I remember seeing his character was in an episode of Maude

01-14-2006, 09:09 PM	#12
An 80s Guy legen-wait for it-dary! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 03, 2005 Location: Austin,Texas Posts: 1,870	if Mike and Gloria was split up how come they both went to spend Thanksgiving with the Bunkers

01-15-2006, 11:13 AM	#15
An 80s Guy legen-wait for it-dary! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 03, 2005 Location: Austin,Texas Posts: 1,870	yeah me too