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zybomb1 · 02-02-2003, 10:11 PM

Even though I like this show and watch it every week, It is getting
to Hallmark-ish. Do we have to be so political correct--even in a show about the 60's? They shouldn't sugarcoat everything, even things that werent acceptable.

Meesa · 02-02-2003, 11:16 PM

The show isn't using the Meg and Sam friendship to be "PC" -- indeed, the whole point of that plot line is to demonstrate that race relations were VERY strained at that time in our history. It's not "nostalgia" at all, but rather, reality. Meg isn't supposed to hang out with "those people," and you can even see some of that strain in her dad's t.v. shop. It's a fascinating plot twist -- we can only wonder how it's going to turn out -- will Meg and Sam take the friendship further than platonic? Interracial dating continues to be a provocative issue even today -- Am Dreams is great at showing how LITTLE has changed, as well as how MUCH has changed.

americandreamsgirl · 02-02-2003, 11:52 PM

There is nothing wrong with a black person and white person going out.Im glad Meg is being friends with Sam.If it were me I would too.I respect everyone.

iowa*sweetie · 02-03-2003, 04:30 PM

I am really getting to like Sam's character. They're starting to actually develop his character beyond just an extra. I don't have any problem with interracial dating, but I just don't want Meg and Sam to date because I really like Luke! I'm a little concerned, too, from the preview where Meg says something about "does this mean you're breaking up with me?" Maybe I'm just being a typical teenage girl and my chick flick side is catching up with me, but I really like Luke and Meg together. My friend's mom tells us that they put parts like that in there just to attract viewers from our age group, but I don't care! I do want to see Meg and Sam continue to be friends, though, because I think it's adding a lot to the show.

americandreamsgirl · 02-03-2003, 04:34 PM

I don't want them to break up either.but I think they do.I was reading about the next two eps at almost human american dreams.Yeah they do put things like that in there the breaking up stuff and whatever cause they know we can relate to it.Thats what i like about it.

David Falkayn · 02-03-2003, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by zybomb1
Even though I like this show and watch it every week, It is getting
to Hallmark-ish. Do we have to be so political correct--even in a show about the 60's? They shouldn't sugarcoat everything, even things that werent acceptable.

They weren't sugarcoating anything here. JJ's reaction was anything but positive, and did you note the symbolism in the scene in Sam's apartment between him and Meg? Note the wide gulf separating the two of them while they were talking--that gulf is a very real thing. Sam and Meg are going to find it difficult enough to even maintain a friendship--much less a romantic relationship.

1964 was a very difficult time with respect to civil rights--disturbances and riots in St. Augustine and elsewhere in the South; 3 civil rights workers were murdered in Mississippi just for trying to register blacks to vote; and there were also riots and disturbances elsewhere in the country--including Philadelphia.

The nostalgia is coming to an end here as we're starting to get to the nitty-gritty of the sixties--race; the Women's Movement; Vietnam; the sexual revolution--buckle your seat belts--it's going to be a wild ride...

MandyGirl77 · 02-11-2003, 09:39 AM

I just dont see that happeing in that family. Really I mean, come on... the brother confronted her with the fact she was even in the sound booth... the brother should of went to the dad at that point. I think the black guy.. who works for him.. is going to branch out an open his own store... the dad isnt really very fair to him. The black boy knew ENOUGH to stay away from Meg in the beginning.. he knew it wasnt proper. It MAY of happened back in the day.... but her name would of been mud in her community an school. It would of brought shame to her family.. not that there is anything WRONG with that sort of thing... Im just being realistic to what is happening here, as someone who grew up in that era and knows first hand how those things effected families an the communities they lived in.

RM16 · 02-12-2003, 08:30 PM

Actually, I think that's kind of the point, though. Meg and Sam's friendship DOES cause problems for them and their families, but they still want to be friends. I think it's pretty realistic.

David Falkayn · 02-12-2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by RM16
Actually, I think that's kind of the point, though. Meg and Sam's friendship DOES cause problems for them and their families, but they still want to be friends. I think it's pretty realistic.

Exactly. It's realistic and it's really very touching--and yes, their friendship is most definitely going to be tested--very soon in a matter of fact. Historically, the summer of '64 saw some ugly rioting in North Philadelphia--we might very well see a confrontation between Sam and/or Nathan and Meg's uncle Pete the cop.

02-02-2003, 10:11 PM	#1
zybomb1 Member First Time Poster Join Date: Feb 02, 2003 Posts: 1	White Girl -- Black Guy. How nostalgic is That?? Even though I like this show and watch it every week, It is getting to Hallmark-ish. Do we have to be so political correct--even in a show about the 60's? They shouldn't sugarcoat everything, even things that werent acceptable.

02-02-2003, 11:16 PM	#2
Meesa Member First Time Poster Join Date: Feb 02, 2003 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1	It's not nostalgia, it's reality. The show isn't using the Meg and Sam friendship to be "PC" -- indeed, the whole point of that plot line is to demonstrate that race relations were VERY strained at that time in our history. It's not "nostalgia" at all, but rather, reality. Meg isn't supposed to hang out with "those people," and you can even see some of that strain in her dad's t.v. shop. It's a fascinating plot twist -- we can only wonder how it's going to turn out -- will Meg and Sam take the friendship further than platonic? Interracial dating continues to be a provocative issue even today -- Am Dreams is great at showing how LITTLE has changed, as well as how MUCH has changed.

02-02-2003, 11:52 PM	#3
americandreamsgirl Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 06, 2002 Location: Southern New Jersey, Posts: 158	There is nothing wrong with interrational dating There is nothing wrong with a black person and white person going out.Im glad Meg is being friends with Sam.If it were me I would too.I respect everyone. Attached Images

02-03-2003, 04:34 PM	#5
americandreamsgirl Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 06, 2002 Location: Southern New Jersey, Posts: 158	It's pretty cool I don't want them to break up either.but I think they do.I was reading about the next two eps at almost human american dreams.Yeah they do put things like that in there the breaking up stuff and whatever cause they know we can relate to it.Thats what i like about it. Attached Images

02-11-2003, 09:39 AM	#7
MandyGirl77 Member First Time Poster Join Date: Feb 11, 2003 Location: OKlahoma Posts: 1	WHite girl black guy, what are you thinking I just dont see that happeing in that family. Really I mean, come on... the brother confronted her with the fact she was even in the sound booth... the brother should of went to the dad at that point. I think the black guy.. who works for him.. is going to branch out an open his own store... the dad isnt really very fair to him. The black boy knew ENOUGH to stay away from Meg in the beginning.. he knew it wasnt proper. It MAY of happened back in the day.... but her name would of been mud in her community an school. It would of brought shame to her family.. not that there is anything WRONG with that sort of thing... Im just being realistic to what is happening here, as someone who grew up in that era and knows first hand how those things effected families an the communities they lived in.

02-03-2003, 04:30 PM	#4
iowasweetie Member Occasional Poster* Join Date: Jan 20, 2003 Location: MN Posts: 61	I am really getting to like Sam's character. They're starting to actually develop his character beyond just an extra. I don't have any problem with interracial dating, but I just don't want Meg and Sam to date because I really like Luke! I'm a little concerned, too, from the preview where Meg says something about "does this mean you're breaking up with me?" Maybe I'm just being a typical teenage girl and my chick flick side is catching up with me, but I really like Luke and Meg together. My friend's mom tells us that they put parts like that in there just to attract viewers from our age group, but I don't care! I do want to see Meg and Sam continue to be friends, though, because I think it's adding a lot to the show.

02-12-2003, 08:30 PM	#8
RM16 Senior Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 20, 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 37	Actually, I think that's kind of the point, though. Meg and Sam's friendship DOES cause problems for them and their families, but they still want to be friends. I think it's pretty realistic.
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