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Corvetteguy · 02-01-2003, 07:11 PM

Was there anyhting on the show that annoyed you ? Like characters etc. I always' thought it was annoying how beaver would always snoop in Wally's stuff and how June & ward would sometimes blow things out of proportion, like making Wally and Beaver go to social functions that they didn't want to attend and would reply by saying " But you have to go, because you were invited". I know they meant well, but they practically forced them to do thingsthey didn't wan't to do.

bandito · 02-01-2003, 10:21 PM

I always hated junes snooping. she never gave the boys thier privacy. always looking in thier garbage can under the beds ect. she would have made a good detective! btw welcome to the boards. i also love classic cars

Corvetteguy · 02-01-2003, 11:46 PM

I agree. They would throw something away and she " Just happened to find it" while she was cleaning the boys room. I also though it was nosy of them to listen to their phone calls and give them the 3rd degree about who it was and what they said. Thanks for the welcome. I love classic cars. Hopefully I will someday own one, preferably a classic (1959-1960-1961) corvette.

tdr · 02-02-2003, 12:56 AM

I don't think "annoy" is the precise term for me, for when Ward and June do their unnecessary probing as to who was on the phone and what did he want, and their "happening to find" a thrown away paper or something which tips them off to what the boys are 'up to.' I just see these as more like 'connectives' in the plots, especially finding a discarded 'letter' which tells the parents what the kids are doing without any volunteering. And always wanting to know who was calling by phone gave Beaver or Wally a reason to act obviously nervous to make it plain they are covering up something.

But I would use "annoy" to describe how I see so many times that Beaver (and sometimes Wally) just never learns. He never learns that his parents are not to be feared, so he too often goes behind their backs or pretends to be doing something he isn't [taking his clarinet to school when he is not in the band; pretending to go to basketball practice when he is off the team; getting Wally to be his 'guardian' several times instead of telling them he's in trouble]. And even worse is how he never learns that his 'friends' like to "give him the business" and leave him holding the bag [going to look for the "spanking machine" in the principal's office; making a face in the class picture; wearing the monster sweatshirt to school; ditching Pepe the burro on him despite their agreement].

BBF · 02-02-2003, 01:09 AM

I'm with tdr, nothing "annoyed" me, but there were a few things I noticed. First of all, dissapearing and nonexistant kids. What ever happened to Violet Rutherford? She vanished. And as for nonexistent...remember Fred mentioning his "older son"? So apparently he had another son older than Lumpy. And what about Larry's sister? She was apparently there, but NEVER seen. Perhaps the best example of a nonexistent kid was that of Angela Valentine. She upset Miss Landers by upchucking in the coat closet, and she also got sick on the bus. She also got in trouble with Mrs. Rayburn for wearing a Jackie kennedy wig to school. She was also the only girl Beaver didn't mind being around during the first season because she had 6 toes. Yes, Angela Valentine was definitely a busy girl, who did her share of trouble making...yet she is never seen. Odd.
Another disturbing thing was the way Gilbert went through 3 last names on the show...First it was Gates, then Bates, and one time it was even Harrison!

HaskellGirl · 02-02-2003, 01:10 AM

One thing that kinda bothers me is that Wally especially, but even Beaver, don't usually get upset with their parents. I know they are taught to be respectful, and that's great, but June and Ward sometimes overdo things, and the boys just take it. Like when the parents pry to much, or lecture Wally when it's his friends that are doing something wrong, I just want them to speak up for themselves!!! Beaver's actually a bit better than Wally, he'll sometimes react to his parents, like when he was running away from home, and when he said "So send me away for spilling some water" when Ward got upset that Beaver was clumsy. It almost seems like they were trying to make Wally more mature, but in my eyes, Beaver seems more plucky because he actually stands up for himself.

Corvetteguy · 02-02-2003, 01:28 AM

You all made good points. Maybe I shouldn't of used the term "annoyed", but rather irritated you. I noticed they never showed Angela Valentine, Larry's sister etc, and the name changes for Gilbert. I also noticed that originaly Lumpy's mother was called Geraldine, then it became Gwen by the time of the "Beaver & Violet" episode. Eddie's father was first referred to as George Haskell, then on today's episode it was Frank, then later it was back to George again. Speaking of Violet, Beaver said she was in his class at school, but we never saw her in class except the episodes that featured her. It was the same when they would show Gilbert missing in episodes that Richard was in, then Richard would be missing when Gilbert is shown etc. I guess the shows writers didn't think that these little quirks would be paid that much attention to at the time. They also didn't figure the show would have a huge fan following 40 something years later.

frani · 02-02-2003, 12:58 PM

I was just going to post the Angela Valentine question - that is, did we ever actually see her? I think it's interesting to have non-visible characters. It tends to give a show a life outside of its boundaries. I just wasn't sure if I had missed her or not.

Mijada · 02-02-2003, 02:35 PM

It always irritated me the way Larry was always getting Beaver into trouble. Talking him into going to the movies when he was supposed to be grounded, talking him into buying a bow and arrow for himself instead of a birthday present for Wally, talking him into playing with Wards autographed baseball, talking the go cart out on the street ect. Beaver would always go along with his friends instead of standing up for himself.

lliissaad · 02-02-2003, 03:03 PM

I am with Mijada. That damn Larry!

Otherwise, nothing irritated me or annoyed me. The parents were just typical parents, asking questions. That is what they are supposed to do, get in your biz and drive you crazy

*InThisMoment* · 02-02-2003, 09:24 PM

hmmm....well theres not a lot of things that annoyed me or irritated me but i didn't like how June was always asking them who was on the phone and when they said who it was then she would ask what they wanted when she could see that they didn't really like her asking them all these questions.but June always meant well.

Corvetteguy · 02-02-2003, 10:25 PM

Exactly. It was like they had to go through a line up. I also noticed that they always foud out things by a fluke. Twice I know of that Ward found things out by accidentaly picking up the phone when it was for Wally and the time they all took the camel back cutoff in Ward's car, the guy at the office "Just Happened" to be riding by on the bus and see them along the highway. It also bothered me when Ward would get irritaed if the boys were failures in athletics & school functions. He would also compete with Fred where Wally was concerned. Like the time he jumped on Wally because Wally wasn't interested in running for class president and when Wally got kicked off the track team for throwing towels and Fred rubbed it in that "Clarence will have to carry Mayfield in the event". He wanted the boys to be 100% perfect in all they did. I though the episode of forcing Beaver to eat Brussel Sprouts was ridiculous and when Beaver won the car and Ward sold it for college education funds, like June couldn't use a car. He also stayed on Wally's back when Wally bought the old car for 25 dollars. I'm through venting now....LOL

James · 02-03-2003, 01:27 AM

Remember the episode when Wally and the rest of the boys got ducktail haircuts? Their parents went nuts! (Was it the school principal who said that their haircuts were acceptable on account of free speech? Whoever it was was wrong in their judgment--dress codes are made to be followed. Plus those ducktail haircuts are a potential distraction!) Even Beaver got one for himself!

Man, talk about a lack of respect for authority!!!

HaskellGirl · 02-03-2003, 01:39 AM

Having a different kind of hairstyle isn't necessarily going against the dress code...it just depends on what the dress code is for that particular school. Like I went to a prep school where you weren't allowed to have unnaturally colored hair. So this girl who died her hair purple had to wear a wig. The funny thing is that the wig looked goofier than her purple hair, but it didn't go against the dress code, so it was acceptable.

And Wally's haircut was hilarious!!! Could you imagine if he wore that haircut with that crazy suit he bought?

DarleneIllyria · 02-03-2003, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by HaskellGirl

And Wally's haircut was hilarious!!! Could you imagine if he wore that haircut with that crazy suit he bought?

That would've been insane. I wished they would've shown Eddie with his crazy haircut.

02-01-2003, 07:11 PM	#1
Corvetteguy Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2003 Location: TN Posts: 126	Things That Annoyed You Was there anyhting on the show that annoyed you ? Like characters etc. I always' thought it was annoying how beaver would always snoop in Wally's stuff and how June & ward would sometimes blow things out of proportion, like making Wally and Beaver go to social functions that they didn't want to attend and would reply by saying " But you have to go, because you were invited". I know they meant well, but they practically forced them to do thingsthey didn't wan't to do.

02-01-2003, 10:21 PM	#2
bandito Going Topless Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Location: The Steel City Posts: 6,320	I always hated junes snooping. she never gave the boys thier privacy. always looking in thier garbage can under the beds ect. she would have made a good detective! btw welcome to the boards. i also love classic cars
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02-02-2003, 01:09 AM	#5
BBF Workin' those Scrubs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 12, 2002 Location: The "Natural" State Posts: 2,014	I'm with tdr, nothing "annoyed" me, but there were a few things I noticed. First of all, dissapearing and nonexistant kids. What ever happened to Violet Rutherford? She vanished. And as for nonexistent...remember Fred mentioning his "older son"? So apparently he had another son older than Lumpy. And what about Larry's sister? She was apparently there, but NEVER seen. Perhaps the best example of a nonexistent kid was that of Angela Valentine. She upset Miss Landers by upchucking in the coat closet, and she also got sick on the bus. She also got in trouble with Mrs. Rayburn for wearing a Jackie kennedy wig to school. She was also the only girl Beaver didn't mind being around during the first season because she had 6 toes. Yes, Angela Valentine was definitely a busy girl, who did her share of trouble making...yet she is never seen. Odd. Another disturbing thing was the way Gilbert went through 3 last names on the show...First it was Gates, then Bates, and one time it was even Harrison!
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02-02-2003, 09:24 PM	#11
InThisMoment a starlit sky and you & me Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 02, 2002 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 95,142	hmmm....well theres not a lot of things that annoyed me or irritated me but i didn't like how June was always asking them who was on the phone and when they said who it was then she would ask what they wanted when she could see that they didn't really like her asking them all these questions.but June always meant well.
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02-01-2003, 11:46 PM	#3
Corvetteguy Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2003 Location: TN Posts: 126	I agree. They would throw something away and she " Just happened to find it" while she was cleaning the boys room. I also though it was nosy of them to listen to their phone calls and give them the 3rd degree about who it was and what they said. Thanks for the welcome. I love classic cars. Hopefully I will someday own one, preferably a classic (1959-1960-1961) corvette.

02-02-2003, 12:56 AM	#4
tdr Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Posts: 1,454	I don't think "annoy" is the precise term for me, for when Ward and June do their unnecessary probing as to who was on the phone and what did he want, and their "happening to find" a thrown away paper or something which tips them off to what the boys are 'up to.' I just see these as more like 'connectives' in the plots, especially finding a discarded 'letter' which tells the parents what the kids are doing without any volunteering. And always wanting to know who was calling by phone gave Beaver or Wally a reason to act obviously nervous to make it plain they are covering up something. But I would use "annoy" to describe how I see so many times that Beaver (and sometimes Wally) just never learns. He never learns that his parents are not to be feared, so he too often goes behind their backs or pretends to be doing something he isn't [taking his clarinet to school when he is not in the band; pretending to go to basketball practice when he is off the team; getting Wally to be his 'guardian' several times instead of telling them he's in trouble]. And even worse is how he never learns that his 'friends' like to "give him the business" and leave him holding the bag [going to look for the "spanking machine" in the principal's office; making a face in the class picture; wearing the monster sweatshirt to school; ditching Pepe the burro on him despite their agreement].

02-02-2003, 01:10 AM	#6
HaskellGirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 15, 2002 Posts: 590	One thing that kinda bothers me is that Wally especially, but even Beaver, don't usually get upset with their parents. I know they are taught to be respectful, and that's great, but June and Ward sometimes overdo things, and the boys just take it. Like when the parents pry to much, or lecture Wally when it's his friends that are doing something wrong, I just want them to speak up for themselves!!! Beaver's actually a bit better than Wally, he'll sometimes react to his parents, like when he was running away from home, and when he said "So send me away for spilling some water" when Ward got upset that Beaver was clumsy. It almost seems like they were trying to make Wally more mature, but in my eyes, Beaver seems more plucky because he actually stands up for himself.

02-02-2003, 01:28 AM	#7
Corvetteguy Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2003 Location: TN Posts: 126	You all made good points. Maybe I shouldn't of used the term "annoyed", but rather irritated you. I noticed they never showed Angela Valentine, Larry's sister etc, and the name changes for Gilbert. I also noticed that originaly Lumpy's mother was called Geraldine, then it became Gwen by the time of the "Beaver & Violet" episode. Eddie's father was first referred to as George Haskell, then on today's episode it was Frank, then later it was back to George again. Speaking of Violet, Beaver said she was in his class at school, but we never saw her in class except the episodes that featured her. It was the same when they would show Gilbert missing in episodes that Richard was in, then Richard would be missing when Gilbert is shown etc. I guess the shows writers didn't think that these little quirks would be paid that much attention to at the time. They also didn't figure the show would have a huge fan following 40 something years later.

02-02-2003, 12:58 PM	#8
frani Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 445	I was just going to post the Angela Valentine question - that is, did we ever actually see her? I think it's interesting to have non-visible characters. It tends to give a show a life outside of its boundaries. I just wasn't sure if I had missed her or not.

02-02-2003, 02:35 PM	#9
Mijada Spencers mom Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 02, 2001 Location: eastern US Posts: 4,093	It always irritated me the way Larry was always getting Beaver into trouble. Talking him into going to the movies when he was supposed to be grounded, talking him into buying a bow and arrow for himself instead of a birthday present for Wally, talking him into playing with Wards autographed baseball, talking the go cart out on the street ect. Beaver would always go along with his friends instead of standing up for himself.

02-02-2003, 03:03 PM	#10
lliissaad Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2003 Posts: 7	I am with Mijada. That damn Larry! Otherwise, nothing irritated me or annoyed me. The parents were just typical parents, asking questions. That is what they are supposed to do, get in your biz and drive you crazy

02-02-2003, 10:25 PM	#12
Corvetteguy Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2003 Location: TN Posts: 126	Exactly. It was like they had to go through a line up. I also noticed that they always foud out things by a fluke. Twice I know of that Ward found things out by accidentaly picking up the phone when it was for Wally and the time they all took the camel back cutoff in Ward's car, the guy at the office "Just Happened" to be riding by on the bus and see them along the highway. It also bothered me when Ward would get irritaed if the boys were failures in athletics & school functions. He would also compete with Fred where Wally was concerned. Like the time he jumped on Wally because Wally wasn't interested in running for class president and when Wally got kicked off the track team for throwing towels and Fred rubbed it in that "Clarence will have to carry Mayfield in the event". He wanted the boys to be 100% perfect in all they did. I though the episode of forcing Beaver to eat Brussel Sprouts was ridiculous and when Beaver won the car and Ward sold it for college education funds, like June couldn't use a car. He also stayed on Wally's back when Wally bought the old car for 25 dollars. I'm through venting now....LOL

02-03-2003, 01:27 AM	#13
James Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,370	Remember the episode when Wally and the rest of the boys got ducktail haircuts? Their parents went nuts! (Was it the school principal who said that their haircuts were acceptable on account of free speech? Whoever it was was wrong in their judgment--dress codes are made to be followed. Plus those ducktail haircuts are a potential distraction!) Even Beaver got one for himself! Man, talk about a lack of respect for authority!!!

02-03-2003, 01:39 AM	#14
HaskellGirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 15, 2002 Posts: 590	Having a different kind of hairstyle isn't necessarily going against the dress code...it just depends on what the dress code is for that particular school. Like I went to a prep school where you weren't allowed to have unnaturally colored hair. So this girl who died her hair purple had to wear a wig. The funny thing is that the wig looked goofier than her purple hair, but it didn't go against the dress code, so it was acceptable. And Wally's haircut was hilarious!!! Could you imagine if he wore that haircut with that crazy suit he bought?