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flannelpjs · 08-26-2001, 02:54 PM

Hi everyone!!! How is everybody doing these long dog days of summer? I have been busy lately..just now catching up on the CATM boards!!!! I don't know about this Kathy thing...but like they say there are two sides to every story. Yes I guess she did handle it wrong..But maybe she did talk to him about getting help. Rembember in the book he tells his mother he can not fight every night?? Maybe she was trying something to get hiim to straighten up...I felt that as long as he was trying to get straight she would stay with him. And after all, a woman donesn't marry a man, have his child which was probably his wish if you don't love him, my guess is she saw a future with him and he did promise her that the drugs would not go on once the baby was born. Seems like the promises she got were not kept..not his fault. We cannot judge her because we didn't live it. We all have our breaking points.I guess she didn't know what else to do.. You know Freddie was a very proud man..he didn't want people to know anything was wrong, he cared too much what people thought and would say. Anyway that's my 2 cents worth..I don't like what she did to him, I blame those stupid doctors and that secretary of his!!! I just don't feel right blaming all on her..Go ahead and bash me if you wish ed brown jr!!

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chicosladyfair · 08-26-2001, 03:51 PM

Thank you flannelpjs...you said it all!

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Ed Brown: Pearls before swines.
VIAGRA: Nature's little way of saying "No hard feelings"

Karen64 · 08-26-2001, 03:55 PM

From the E Hollywood story; she seemed kind of emotionless when she talked of Freddie's death, but then, it happened so long ago...I don't even pretend to know what all happened in their relationship; maybe Kathy did try. But I do know that, as much as Freddie apparently loved Kathy, and if he were here right now, he might be saddened to hear of all the negative things about her. It sounds like both of them made some really poor choices. Maybe she just didn't understand his depression and state of mind and if she could've looked into the future, she might have done things a whole lot differently......Just my little 2-cent's worth.....

hillbilly · 08-26-2001, 03:57 PM

I agree with you,too.I don`t like some of the things she said on the E true Hollywood story.But I do feel that it wasn`t all her fault.

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Joy · 08-26-2001, 04:38 PM

AMEN! to that my Freddie friends. Very well said!!!

Pitooey · 08-26-2001, 05:27 PM

It's me again..........

Look at Freddie's pictures at the end of his life. It is obvious that he is sick....

He left the house and moved to the Comstock Hotel. Why did she serve divorce papers asking for money and other things to a man who looked so ill?

Not for nothing.... I had a somewhat similar experience but, I had no child by the man. I think if I did though... I would've tried to help him because he's my childs father.

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hillbilly · 08-26-2001, 06:39 PM

I look at it this way.Dusty was the one there with him that night.Why didn`t he stop him ...why didn`t he do something.Call for help when he was waving the gun around.

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hillbilly · 08-26-2001, 06:51 PM

In the Fade to Black it said Prinze was a deeply unhappy man whose only real solace came in the shape of his wife Kathy and his son.I think Freddie really loved Kathy.

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EdBrownJr · 08-26-2001, 06:57 PM

After seeing that E True Hollywood Story is was more than clear to me how heartless and cold this freak was. She showed no compassion or emotions. No evidence of her ever loving the man. She was slippery like a snake. I am disgusted by her.

No Doubt Freddie loved her but the problem was she did not love him. She only saw him as a meal ticket. Having a mans child only means one thing for people like her more money they can get.

Flannelpjs, You dont really want me to bash you. I happen to respect the fact that atleast you are aware that she did play some role in his problems. The Dr was the idiot who gave him more pills and his gun back. The Secretary was Kathys friend so all 3 of them are guilty as sin and did nothing to help. They only dug his grave for him.

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R.I.P. AALIYAH, ONE LOVE MAMA.

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LADY LOVES FREDDIE · 08-26-2001, 07:06 PM

I think we are all intitled to our opinions and I sure did not mean to offend anyone.Now I get rude email from someone. LOL! No one here Is trying to hurt Freddie Jr. if he should happen to visit this site or anyone else for that matter.I think we can all agree we all are fans of Freddie and we wish someone could have done something to save his life period no matter who it might be.no we werent in Kathys shoes but we, as said before, ARE INTITLED TO HAVE OUR OPINIONS!

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LADY LOVES FREDDIE · 08-26-2001, 07:26 PM

And too at Freddie Jrs age this message board cant be the 1st time hearing opinions about his mom.Some people say horrible things about his dad

, he has had to have heard plenty of views on his mother.Being in the public eye especially.But even If she was at her breaking point, demanding a maid is sure NOT a necessity.!

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Pitooey · 08-26-2001, 09:31 PM

All I'm saying is when a woman has a child its different. When you're single and free you think about yourself but, when you have a child.... you think about your child. I know I wasn't there and I know theres 2 sides to every story. I know she went through heavy duty crazy stuff with Freddie. I know that! I just can't believe she served him divorce papers when he was so ill at the Comstock hotel. That's being GREEDY! As for Dusty, he said that Freddie sounded bad on the phone that's why he ran to the apartment. Carol was tired I understand that too. I just wish out of all his friends or so called friends that he had... That someone would've cared........

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Pitooey · 08-26-2001, 09:36 PM

As for Freddie Jr. reading any of this.... All I have to say is that I loved his father and will always defend him no matter what. I'm just sounding off. As for Kathy.... She is still with us and she knows what happened that's all... She did give us Jr. though and for that I'm happy...... I love you Jr.

I can't help it..... It's the mother instinct coming out....

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LADY LOVES FREDDIE · 08-26-2001, 09:52 PM

I SO VERY MUCH AGREE with you Jenny Lee22,and I have known people in my own life with those kind of problems to deal with and I have did what I thought was best so even though I did NOT want to bring that up I have been there, yes different time and circumstance but I did help as best as I could and that person is doing a whole lot better thank GOD!!!!!ITS not always easy to give loved ones help but you do what you have to do out of love.and guess what I didnt ask for a maid when I helped him......that might have been a rude comment but its how I feel.Sorry to all you Kathy fans.Im NOT trying to judge! I really am not.She must feel horrible if she has a concience.I just cant imagine my loved one in such agony and torment with no one in the whole world to turn to and being that messed up and THEN being served papers by someone whoes supposed to love you THEN in all that, having to put out the CASH for a MAID? TELL ME WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??????????

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chicosladyfair · 08-26-2001, 11:51 PM

The e-mail wasn't rude. You took it that way. If you remember correctly...I agreed with everything you had to say. Yes, you are certainly entitled to your opinion...but I DO NOT want your opinions to bleed over into my site. I have a right to say what goes on at my site just like everybody else who has a site. If you want to bad mouth Kathy more power to ya. Be my guest. But I certainly don't think I am out of line to ask you not to bring it there. I was informed by another site that certain things wouldn't be allowed and the messages would be deleted. It's the right of that site manager to say that. She is completely within her rights to do that and I will honor that. In my attempt to keep this mess off the boards you got a private e-mail from me. But since you insist on bringing it here then I will answer you here. Like I said in my e-mail to you..it was NOT my intention to sound rude. If you took it that way then I'm sorry.

08-26-2001, 02:54 PM	#1
flannelpjs Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 01, 2001 Location: Church Point, Louisiana, United States Posts: 79	Maybe Kathy did try!! Hi everyone!!! How is everybody doing these long dog days of summer? I have been busy lately..just now catching up on the CATM boards!!!! I don't know about this Kathy thing...but like they say there are two sides to every story. Yes I guess she did handle it wrong..But maybe she did talk to him about getting help. Rembember in the book he tells his mother he can not fight every night?? Maybe she was trying something to get hiim to straighten up...I felt that as long as he was trying to get straight she would stay with him. And after all, a woman donesn't marry a man, have his child which was probably his wish if you don't love him, my guess is she saw a future with him and he did promise her that the drugs would not go on once the baby was born. Seems like the promises she got were not kept..not his fault. We cannot judge her because we didn't live it. We all have our breaking points.I guess she didn't know what else to do.. You know Freddie was a very proud man..he didn't want people to know anything was wrong, he cared too much what people thought and would say. Anyway that's my 2 cents worth..I don't like what she did to him, I blame those stupid doctors and that secretary of his!!! I just don't feel right blaming all on her..Go ahead and bash me if you wish ed brown jr!! ------------------ flannelpjs

08-26-2001, 03:51 PM	#2
chicosladyfair Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 10, 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 770	Thank you flannelpjs...you said it all! ------------------ Chico: Age before beauty. Ed Brown: Pearls before swines. VIAGRA: Nature's little way of saying "No hard feelings"

08-26-2001, 03:55 PM	#3
Karen64 Comedy Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 24, 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,412	From the E Hollywood story; she seemed kind of emotionless when she talked of Freddie's death, but then, it happened so long ago...I don't even pretend to know what all happened in their relationship; maybe Kathy did try. But I do know that, as much as Freddie apparently loved Kathy, and if he were here right now, he might be saddened to hear of all the negative things about her. It sounds like both of them made some really poor choices. Maybe she just didn't understand his depression and state of mind and if she could've looked into the future, she might have done things a whole lot differently......Just my little 2-cent's worth.....

08-26-2001, 03:57 PM	#4
hillbilly Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 21, 2001 Location: TN USA Posts: 322	I agree with you,too.I don`t like some of the things she said on the E true Hollywood story.But I do feel that it wasn`t all her fault. ------------------ Hillbilly

08-26-2001, 04:38 PM	#5
Joy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2001 Location: In Mn lovin my DVD and the Prinze of comedy!!! Posts: 3,247	AMEN! to that my Freddie friends. Very well said!!!

08-26-2001, 05:27 PM	#6
Pitooey Member Forum Star Join Date: Feb 15, 2001 Location: Rocking in Transylvania. Posts: 15,042	It's me again.......... Look at Freddie's pictures at the end of his life. It is obvious that he is sick.... He left the house and moved to the Comstock Hotel. Why did she serve divorce papers asking for money and other things to a man who looked so ill? Not for nothing.... I had a somewhat similar experience but, I had no child by the man. I think if I did though... I would've tried to help him because he's my childs father. [This message has been edited by JennyLee22 (edited 08-26-2001).]

08-26-2001, 06:39 PM	#7
hillbilly Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 21, 2001 Location: TN USA Posts: 322	I look at it this way.Dusty was the one there with him that night.Why didn`t he stop him ...why didn`t he do something.Call for help when he was waving the gun around. ------------------ Hillbilly

08-26-2001, 06:51 PM	#8
hillbilly Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 21, 2001 Location: TN USA Posts: 322	In the Fade to Black it said Prinze was a deeply unhappy man whose only real solace came in the shape of his wife Kathy and his son.I think Freddie really loved Kathy. ------------------ Hillbilly

08-26-2001, 06:57 PM	#9
EdBrownJr Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 08, 2001 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 1,247	After seeing that E True Hollywood Story is was more than clear to me how heartless and cold this freak was. She showed no compassion or emotions. No evidence of her ever loving the man. She was slippery like a snake. I am disgusted by her. No Doubt Freddie loved her but the problem was she did not love him. She only saw him as a meal ticket. Having a mans child only means one thing for people like her more money they can get. Flannelpjs, You dont really want me to bash you. I happen to respect the fact that atleast you are aware that she did play some role in his problems. The Dr was the idiot who gave him more pills and his gun back. The Secretary was Kathys friend so all 3 of them are guilty as sin and did nothing to help. They only dug his grave for him. ------------------ R.I.P. AALIYAH, ONE LOVE MAMA. [This message has been edited by EdBrownJr (edited 08-26-2001).] [This message has been edited by EdBrownJr (edited 08-26-2001).]

08-26-2001, 07:06 PM	#10
LADY LOVES FREDDIE Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2001 Location: California Posts: 312	I think we are all intitled to our opinions and I sure did not mean to offend anyone.Now I get rude email from someone. LOL! No one here Is trying to hurt Freddie Jr. if he should happen to visit this site or anyone else for that matter.I think we can all agree we all are fans of Freddie and we wish someone could have done something to save his life period no matter who it might be.no we werent in Kathys shoes but we, as said before, ARE INTITLED TO HAVE OUR OPINIONS! ------------------

08-26-2001, 07:26 PM	#11
LADY LOVES FREDDIE Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2001 Location: California Posts: 312	And too at Freddie Jrs age this message board cant be the 1st time hearing opinions about his mom.Some people say horrible things about his dad , he has had to have heard plenty of views on his mother.Being in the public eye especially.But even If she was at her breaking point, demanding a maid is sure NOT a necessity.! [This message has been edited by LADY LOVES FREDDIE (edited 08-26-2001).]

08-26-2001, 09:31 PM	#12
Pitooey Member Forum Star Join Date: Feb 15, 2001 Location: Rocking in Transylvania. Posts: 15,042	All I'm saying is when a woman has a child its different. When you're single and free you think about yourself but, when you have a child.... you think about your child. I know I wasn't there and I know theres 2 sides to every story. I know she went through heavy duty crazy stuff with Freddie. I know that! I just can't believe she served him divorce papers when he was so ill at the Comstock hotel. That's being GREEDY! As for Dusty, he said that Freddie sounded bad on the phone that's why he ran to the apartment. Carol was tired I understand that too. I just wish out of all his friends or so called friends that he had... That someone would've cared........ [This message has been edited by JennyLee22 (edited 08-26-2001).]

08-26-2001, 09:36 PM	#13
Pitooey Member Forum Star Join Date: Feb 15, 2001 Location: Rocking in Transylvania. Posts: 15,042	As for Freddie Jr. reading any of this.... All I have to say is that I loved his father and will always defend him no matter what. I'm just sounding off. As for Kathy.... She is still with us and she knows what happened that's all... She did give us Jr. though and for that I'm happy...... I love you Jr. I can't help it..... It's the mother instinct coming out.... [This message has been edited by JennyLee22 (edited 08-26-2001).]

08-26-2001, 09:52 PM	#14
LADY LOVES FREDDIE Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2001 Location: California Posts: 312	I SO VERY MUCH AGREE with you Jenny Lee22,and I have known people in my own life with those kind of problems to deal with and I have did what I thought was best so even though I did NOT want to bring that up I have been there, yes different time and circumstance but I did help as best as I could and that person is doing a whole lot better thank GOD!!!!!ITS not always easy to give loved ones help but you do what you have to do out of love.and guess what I didnt ask for a maid when I helped him......that might have been a rude comment but its how I feel.Sorry to all you Kathy fans.Im NOT trying to judge! I really am not.She must feel horrible if she has a concience.I just cant imagine my loved one in such agony and torment with no one in the whole world to turn to and being that messed up and THEN being served papers by someone whoes supposed to love you THEN in all that, having to put out the CASH for a MAID? TELL ME WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?????????? ------------------

08-26-2001, 11:51 PM	#15
chicosladyfair Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 10, 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 770	The e-mail wasn't rude. You took it that way. If you remember correctly...I agreed with everything you had to say. Yes, you are certainly entitled to your opinion...but I DO NOT want your opinions to bleed over into my site. I have a right to say what goes on at my site just like everybody else who has a site. If you want to bad mouth Kathy more power to ya. Be my guest. But I certainly don't think I am out of line to ask you not to bring it there. I was informed by another site that certain things wouldn't be allowed and the messages would be deleted. It's the right of that site manager to say that. She is completely within her rights to do that and I will honor that. In my attempt to keep this mess off the boards you got a private e-mail from me. But since you insist on bringing it here then I will answer you here. Like I said in my e-mail to you..it was NOT my intention to sound rude. If you took it that way then I'm sorry.