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ABlairican Pie · 12-14-2002, 08:56 PM

I read in the latest Guitar World in the article about the recording of "You Know You're Right" that Kurt No-Brain was laughing about the time when Eddie Van Halen wanted to jam with him--and Kurt No-Brain DISSED him. He used to idolize EVH, but that was BEFORE the whole grunge thing, and now that Kurt No-Brain was the most powerful man in the music biz back in '92, he felt he could blow off the guy he used to idolize. "Cause I'm Kurt Cobain, and grunge rules, and Eddie Van Halen is a total hair metal poseur from the 80's..." So what's with this I'm-so-tres-alternative elitist attitude from the 90's anyway??

What was wrong with Eddie Van Halen anyway?? If you were a metal/pop metal guy from the 80's, you couldn't be friends with all these new bands, they were
TOOOOOO IMPOOOOOORTANT for everyone else....

You could like them, but they couldn't like you.

SBTB Geek · 12-14-2002, 09:51 PM

It's probably because Kurt didn't want to be associated with joke known as Eddie Van Halen.

Admit it or not, NIRVANA doesn't not even COMPARE with Van Halen.

ABlairican Pie · 12-15-2002, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by SBTB Geek
It's probably because Kurt didn't want to be associated with joke known as Eddie Van Halen.

Admit it or not, NIRVANA doesn't not even COMPARE with Van Halen.

I guess it was also that EVH was also drunk off his ass at the time.

But hmm, lessee. Van Halen's first album came out with a blast in 1978. Hearing "Eruption" and "You Really Got Me" and "Running With the Devil" was a revelation to those of us traumatized by disco. I saw Van Halen open up for Black Sabbath in 1978, and they were AMAZING. When Nirvana came out in 1991, that was a revelation, too. I guess it was a breath of fresh stinky air back then, but...yeah, don't get me wrong, I thought Nirvana was really cool back then, too, but... it was after hearing about all the problems in the news with Nirvana that I just didn't really get into them anymore. I dunno. When did Van Halen begin to lose it?
When they got Sammy Hagar?

tormented_soul · 12-18-2002, 04:36 AM

ugh.. whatever.

Kristina · 12-18-2002, 07:37 PM

He's the one who like all our pretty songs and he likes to sing a long and he likes to shoot his gun. But he knows not what it means, knows not what it means.

ABlairican Pie · 12-18-2002, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by tormented_soul
ugh.. whatever.

Thank you for sharing...

WHATEVER your opinion was...

ABlairican Pie · 12-18-2002, 11:04 PM

What made Eddie Van Halen such an object of derision for Kurt No-Brain to blow him off? Van Halen was cool at one time. Did Kurt blow him off just because he could?? What's with this high-brow attitude of these elitist snobs in Seattle music??

Btw, I LIKE Nirvana's music. I LIKE In Bloom--and I understand it.

~*Hannah_Lee*~ · 12-19-2002, 11:54 PM

I LOVE Nirvana. Kurt Cobain and the rest of the band were awesome! If Kurt was still alive I am sure he would have been the greatest rock icon of the 90's, which he was pretty much anyway. I think Nirvana would have had an even greater legacy like Aerosmith, and Kurt Cobain would be as commonly known as Steven Tyler. And just for the record, I think it should be Captian No-Brain-ica instead of Kurt No-Brain.

ABlairican Pie · 12-20-2002, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by billdailyfanforever
I LOVE Nirvana. Kurt Cobain and the rest of the band were awesome! If Kurt was still alive I am sure he would have been the greatest rock icon of the 90's, which he was pretty much anyway. I think Nirvana would have had an even greater legacy like Aerosmith, and Kurt Cobain would be as commonly known as Steven Tyler. And just for the record, I think it should be Captian No-Brain-ica instead of Kurt No-Brain.

Good one!!

Yeah, I still think about what I was saying and I have to say, you can't say those guys didn't have some killer stuff back then. I remember 10 years ago, Nirvana WERE the epitome of cool. I was there at his memorial vigil in Seattle, and put a candle in a strawberry shake cup in remembrance for him. I guess I should be careful about dissing the dead. I wasn't dissing Kurt for his musical abilities, but the arrogant attitudes most people in Seattle had toward other kinds of rock. The good thing about Nirvana was that they made us face the demons in us and write our own songs reflecting that.

~*Hannah_Lee*~ · 12-20-2002, 12:49 AM

Hey, sorry for blowing up on ya in the previous post. I think i might have misunderstood ya. I am a pretty big fan of Nirvana, so I kinda go all crazy and nuts. But i get what you were saying now. And I see that everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And i have to agree, Nirvana had some awesome stuff back in the day. Smells like Teen Spirit has been named the greatest alternative rock song of all time, so they had to have done something right back then!!

AKA · 12-20-2002, 09:59 PM

I disagree with a lot of things that Kurt said (and did), but that doesn't make Nirvana any less my second favorite band. Although, as was posted above, during the height of Nirvana's popularity, Eddie Van Halen was a drunken buffoon.

Now he's just a joke.

ABlairican Pie · 12-20-2002, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by billdailyfanforever
Hey, sorry for blowing up on ya in the previous post. I think i might have misunderstood ya. I am a pretty big fan of Nirvana, so I kinda go all crazy and nuts. But i get what you were saying now. And I see that everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And i have to agree, Nirvana had some awesome stuff back in the day. Smells like Teen Spirit has been named the greatest alternative rock song of all time, so they had to have done something right back then!!

Yeah, I think when I read the article, it said that Kurt was blowing off the guitarist he used to idolize (as well as everyone else used to), Eddie Van Halen. And Eddie was drunk at the time, so more power to Kurt for putting him in his place. Cause the time when everyone idolized EVH was during the Eruption/You Really Got Me/
Somebody Get Me a Doctor/Everybody Wants Some days in the late 70's when he set the world on its ear with his mindblowing guitar. Ten years ago, when Nirvana was on top, Eddie was just a shell of his former glory, cranking out safe corporate hits in Van Hagar (THIS TOUR SPONSORED BUY MICHELOB--AND PEPSI CLEAR!!!

).

The real reasons why I was down on Nirvana:
1. The snooty, snobby Seattle attitude,
2. COURTNEY LOVEHOLE.

Other than that, Nirvana was way cool. I think at that time I was more into Soundgarden and Alice In Chains.

Think I should buy that Kurt Cobain journal??

Mr. Stefani · 12-21-2002, 02:50 AM

How can anyone hate Nirvana?

A Flaming Stick · 12-21-2002, 11:02 AM

NIRVANA SHALL REIGN SUPREME... even if Kurt is dead...

ABlairican Pie · 12-21-2002, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by timmy087
How can anyone hate Nirvana?

You're right, I change my opinion--I don't hate Nirvana now. Certain things about them I didn't like, but not about the music. Things that were actually peripheral to the band. The "we're better than anyone else attitude" of Seattle way back when, and more importantly, COURTNEY LOVEHOLE. As long as she has control of their music, it spoils my enjoyment of it--it's not in the hands of Krist and Dave anymore. Dave Grohl said that she spoiled something pure with their music, now it's all this legal beagle business. But as far as the music itself goes, I would be a fool to deny how cool it was--and still is.

I'm gonna put up a new kinda post... You'll see...

12-14-2002, 08:56 PM	#1
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,619	Another reason why I hate Nirvana. I read in the latest Guitar World in the article about the recording of "You Know You're Right" that Kurt No-Brain was laughing about the time when Eddie Van Halen wanted to jam with him--and Kurt No-Brain DISSED him. He used to idolize EVH, but that was BEFORE the whole grunge thing, and now that Kurt No-Brain was the most powerful man in the music biz back in '92, he felt he could blow off the guy he used to idolize. "Cause I'm Kurt Cobain, and grunge rules, and Eddie Van Halen is a total hair metal poseur from the 80's..." So what's with this I'm-so-tres-alternative elitist attitude from the 90's anyway?? What was wrong with Eddie Van Halen anyway?? If you were a metal/pop metal guy from the 80's, you couldn't be friends with all these new bands, they were TOOOOOO IMPOOOOOORTANT for everyone else.... You could like them, but they couldn't like you.
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12-18-2002, 04:36 AM	#4
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12-18-2002, 11:04 PM	#7
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,619	in other words... What made Eddie Van Halen such an object of derision for Kurt No-Brain to blow him off? Van Halen was cool at one time. Did Kurt blow him off just because he could?? What's with this high-brow attitude of these elitist snobs in Seattle music?? Btw, I LIKE Nirvana's music. I LIKE In Bloom--and I understand it.

12-19-2002, 11:54 PM	#8
~Hannah_Lee~ Let's dance in style Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 09, 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,358	I LOVE Nirvana. Kurt Cobain and the rest of the band were awesome! If Kurt was still alive I am sure he would have been the greatest rock icon of the 90's, which he was pretty much anyway. I think Nirvana would have had an even greater legacy like Aerosmith, and Kurt Cobain would be as commonly known as Steven Tyler. And just for the record, I think it should be Captian No-Brain-ica instead of Kurt No-Brain.
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12-21-2002, 11:02 AM	#14
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12-14-2002, 09:51 PM	#2
SBTB Geek Smooth Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 21, 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,004	It's probably because Kurt didn't want to be associated with joke known as Eddie Van Halen. Admit it or not, NIRVANA doesn't not even COMPARE with Van Halen.

12-18-2002, 07:37 PM	#5
Kristina Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Mar 27, 2001 Location: CaLiFoRnIa, UsA Posts: 8,890	He's the one who like all our pretty songs and he likes to sing a long and he likes to shoot his gun. But he knows not what it means, knows not what it means.

12-20-2002, 12:49 AM	#10
~Hannah_Lee~ Let's dance in style Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 09, 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,358	Hey, sorry for blowing up on ya in the previous post. I think i might have misunderstood ya. I am a pretty big fan of Nirvana, so I kinda go all crazy and nuts. But i get what you were saying now. And I see that everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And i have to agree, Nirvana had some awesome stuff back in the day. Smells like Teen Spirit has been named the greatest alternative rock song of all time, so they had to have done something right back then!!

12-20-2002, 09:59 PM	#11
AKA Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 17, 2001 Posts: 15,746	I disagree with a lot of things that Kurt said (and did), but that doesn't make Nirvana any less my second favorite band. Although, as was posted above, during the height of Nirvana's popularity, Eddie Van Halen was a drunken buffoon. Now he's just a joke.

12-21-2002, 02:50 AM	#13
Mr. Stefani Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Jul 15, 2001 Posts: 20,757	How can anyone hate Nirvana?