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I don't think this topic has been done before- I searched for any previous posts that did this and didn't find anything. So here goes, and feel free to post your opinion after:
Cox's book is very well researched and gives lots of little-known facts about IDOJ- along with lots of put-downs. Now, I know that he states in the introduction that he isn't at all fond of I Dream of Jeannie right off the bat. But as a writer myself: KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE. They're going to be Jeannie fans that are going to buy the book. So it's none too smart to dis it, no matter what your personal opinion is. Or if you were peer-pressured into writing a book, as Cox said he was. Yes, the full-color pictures are nice, along with show stories. But a book full of Jeannie-bashing isn't going to be made up by a (why the heck is it there?!) chapter of Bewitched-bashing. And what's with the "lost episodes of Bewitched"? Even though they were written by a "humorist" (and not a very funny one at that), by putting them right at the end of a nonfiction book, people are going to believe the episodes are actually real. Geesh. If you want to hear kinder words I Dream of Jeannie, read Bewitched Forever by Herbie J Pilato. I'm serious. It's sad, but true. |
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Wouldn't say he really bashed the I dream of Jeannie in his book. But it could have done without the Bewitched bashing, what was the whole point of that?
I have a copy of the book and I must say when I read the Bewitched bit it kind of sounded like Liz and York didn't get along well which I don't think was right. I know Dick York had a lot of nice things to say about Liz. I mean if you work with people you are going to disagree, its only human. I remember reading somewhere Larry Hagman said once on I dream of Jeannie he got angry at Barbara Eden over something, he said it didn't last long and they made up because she was such a nice person. She also save him from getting fired a couple of times. Bill Daily said that him and Larry were the out going ones and Barbara Eden was their rock and they balanced out. Larry Hagman also said when something were wrong he complained and and Barbara would find they same thing wrong but she didn't complain she would keep quite because Hagman did the complaining for them, I can see why they got along well. So I'm sure Liz and York had great times and bad times together, but I know York had nice things to say about her till the day he died. The book its self was informtive but I think he could have gone a little deeper into the show. One thing he said was it was nostalgia to write a book about I dream of Jeannie, I didn't think so, it was really the stars fame after I dream of Jeannie and it was the reruns that put it in it place in TV history. I mean wasn't it last month Barbara Eden was voted one of the top 50 sexy people of all time and she was also in the top 100 sexy people of all time for playboy too. I say if there was going to be a book about I dream of Jeannie a fan should write it. Just about a couple of months ago a fan wrote a book on Knight Rider and its said to be a must for every Knight Rider fan, because it has everything a fan would want to know. |
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Right on.
A labor of love, more often than not, would definetly bring out the best story there could be in a show. I'll have to take a look at the Knight Rider book. ![]() (Shameless Plug Alert! ) Just comparing Herbie J Pilato's book and Steve Cox's book: You can definetly see which one was the labor of love: Pilato's. He's a longtime fan of Bewitched (and I Dream of Jeannie), along with being a professional writer. It's great reading, giving all sides of the story without being condescending to anyone's viewpoint. He praises his topic without gushing or saying it changed the face of the earth (Personally, I think the show gave the world just what it needed: A good, moral makeover, rather than an entire facelift. )So a better book, deeper, more exploratory, and less snide (IMO) account of IDOJ is possible, just hasn't happened yet. |
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The kind of things I wanted to know were: Actor relationships. In the book it only really went into Barbara Eden, Larry Hagman and Bill Daily's relationship and it didn't really go that deep. I would have asked them what Hayden Rorke was like and Emmaline Henry. I would have loved to have known about Barbara Eden's and Emmaline Henry's relationship. I mean they could have been good friends at the time, I know Barbara, Larry and Bill were. But I notice none of the actors talked about her or weren't asked. And if they still were in contact with her till the day she died. I know Barbara Eden and Larry Hagman went and visited Hayden Rorke just before he died in 1987.
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Opps! sorry I forgot to add this.
I would have liked to have known what kind of jokes they played on each other during the time of I dream of Jeannie. I heard about the one where they left Barbara in a bottle and took off to lunch and she was banging on the bottle for someone to let her out, they also use the footage of that for the show in the episode Jeannie or the tiger. I know Larry hagman and Bill Daily would have done things like that. Hagman was said to be a bit of a joker on the DALLAS set. And where they hung out if they all did hang out just little things like that. I have seen pictures of them at parties. You know we might be able to get the answers. I know someone who knows Barbara Eden in person and rings and talks to her every now and then. Its a long shot because I don't really know them that well. But I had a question about one of Barbara Eden's TV apparence from the 60s I wanted to know about and I asked him to ask her and he did and I got my answer. |
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I agree that the book should have been written by someone who actually likes the show, but I don't see what the point was of dedicating a whole chapter to Bewitched (although I do like Bewitched, but isn't the book supposed to be about IDOJ?).
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I don't either. There's already been several (great
) books about Bewitched that, for example, delve into the REAL Jackie Cooper/ EM thing. I've learned not to trust anything that has come out of Cooper's dishonest mouth. Search for some of my previous posts if you want to see me rant. Have fun
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I read in the book that it was Jackie Cooper who talked Mr Sheldon into Larry Hagman - well the book said he claimed. |
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Yea, I'm interested too. Being a fan of the original "Our Gang" comedies, I always kind of liked Jackie Cooper.
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OK. I didn't write the following- it was originally posted by LarryT Tate on bewitched.net's message board. So here's the quote followed by his opinion (which is pretty much my opinion, too) :
___________________________________________ PART I (Jackie Cooper's excerpt) Quote:
~~~ PART II (LT's opinion) Quote:
_______________________________________________ Back to me now (Arfies). Here's my rant: Quote:
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Ok, you're right. I almost forgot that he said that about Liz in the Dreaming of Jeannie book. I never read his autobiography though.
I guess I can't argue you there, because I'm sure Liz was more of a respectable woman than he have her credit for. |
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That's it, it was in the dreaming of Jeannie book.
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