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Frasier W. Crane · 11-06-2002, 01:14 AM

I haven't seen it yet-on in 20 minutes-but what did everyone think??

sonyab · 11-06-2002, 11:50 AM

oh the show was great last night except for one thing.. freddy was 13 last night.. freddy isnt 13.. he was 13 a couple of years ago at that camping trip with his dad and grandpa.. they messed up..

Frasier W. Crane · 11-06-2002, 12:11 PM

DANG DANG DANG!!! Portland's Stupid election coverage made me and everyone else in my area miss it!!! Our news stations are so pathetic.....

UpstairsSteak · 11-06-2002, 01:00 PM

It was pretty good but you're right sonyab wasn't Freddy 13 in the camping ep? And why did they ever pick that kid to play Lilith and Frasier's son?

sonyab · 11-06-2002, 01:24 PM

hmmm well the kid isnt that bad he just looks a little older than 13.. it was very funny with the camera and frasier talking star trekkieng rofl.. he still has got it.. hmm cute handle name frasier w crane..

what does the w stand for?

Brian Damage · 11-06-2002, 02:32 PM

I really liked last night's ep. It was great when Frasier started talking Klingon and everybody in the room was confused except for Frasier's family who really thought he was speaking Hebrew.

Brian Damage · 11-06-2002, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by UpstairsSteak
And why did they ever pick that kid to play Lilith and Frasier's son?

I agree with you there. Considering it's a child coming from both Frasier and Lilith, you'd think the kid would have a better, more interesting personality. This actor doesn't have that.

callmetootie · 11-06-2002, 07:18 PM

Hail BEBE!!!! Great performance by Beebs...weak episode in general, but still worth while.

Central Perk · 11-06-2002, 07:40 PM

I personally am really starting to loose faith in Frasier, it was an ok episode but hardly as good as the earlier ones. They are running out of ideas but still I think they could come up with some more funny storylines. Personally I seem to be enjoying Life With Bonnie a lot more than Frasier. I hope Frasier can get its act together, maybe bring on some new writers.

callmetootie · 11-06-2002, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Dr. Frasier Crane
I personally am really starting to loose faith in Frasier, it was an ok episode but hardly as good as the earlier ones. They are running out of ideas but still I think they could come up with some more funny storylines. Personally I seem to be enjoying Life With Bonnie a lot more than Frasier. I hope Frasier can get its act together, maybe bring on some new writers.

Although Frasier hasn't been as fresh or hilarious as it may have been a few years back, it is 10 times better than that forbidden crap that ABC calls "Life With Bonnie". Kelsey hasn't been as great as he has been before, and John Mahoney is just a token character...but David Hyde Pierce and Jane Leeves are just great this season. I really wouldn't be surprised if David kept up these great performances and ended up winning the emmy...

purplefuzzycouch · 11-06-2002, 08:36 PM

i thought the episode was hilarious every time lilith opened her mouth i just laughed.and i disagree i still think frasier is a good show and better than life with bonnie. my opinion

Central Perk · 11-08-2002, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by callmetootie

Although Frasier hasn't been as fresh or hilarious as it may have been a few years back, it is 10 times better than that forbidden crap that ABC calls "Life With Bonnie". Kelsey hasn't been as great as he has been before, and John Mahoney is just a token character...but David Hyde Pierce and Jane Leeves are just great this season. I really wouldn't be surprised if David kept up these great performances and ended up winning the emmy...

Yea I agree on you with Kelsey, John, David, and Jane but I think Life With Bonnie is a good show, imo the best new show of the season.

dancrchic26 · 11-08-2002, 07:21 PM

I think that Frasier's still funny. With their new episode next week it is supposed to bring up the ratings but I think that this episode was great! hehe Lilith is so funny

Frasier W. Crane · 11-08-2002, 09:24 PM

I actually got to see it at 7:30 last night....( I couldn't on Tues cause of the election)...it was good...the camera thing was funny, and the clips at the end were to

Dr. Lilith Sternin · 11-12-2002, 12:03 AM

I didn't actually see it last Tuesday night because I went to see Bebe at the Q&A which KICKED ASS! I'll get into it some other time, because tonight I'm very upset and just... not in the right emotional state to write about such a thrilling experience for me.

Anyway, I ended up watching my tape of Star Mitzvah on Wednesday, and was slightly disappointed. It wasn't your average Lilith episode. She wasn't in it enough... or something. Bebe, of course, was fabulous. Isn't she always? I think it was Trevor who ruined it for me. He was annoying enough in The Apparent Trap, but I could deal because there was a lot of Frith focus. This episode was basically focused on Frederick and I couldn't stomach him. He's gotten even less cute over the years, if that's possible. Who in their right mind would cast such a horrendous actor, with the personality to match his talent, or lack there of, as the offspring of Frasier and Lilith? I mean, he's not even cute! The cute factor doesn't even negate the lack of talent. There's absolutely nothing there?! I'm horribly mean, but it completely irks me every time I see him. What makes it worse is that the little boys who originally played Frederick on Cheers (Christopher and Kevin Graves) were absolutely adorable, and that little boy they had for ONE episode on Frasier... Frasier Grinch... was so incredibly cute. Whatever, Trevor is NOT.

*sigh* How's that for transfering my inevitable aggressions onto an innocent party? Yeah, that's what I thought. LOL.

As for the plot making absolutely no sense, you're quite correct. I've said that since I heard about the episode. They say straight out that Freddie was 13 in Cranes Unplugged. How can they justify him turning 13 again a whole year and a half later? *sigh* I think they were just trying to devise a way to bring Bebe on, yet not encourage any hope for us Frith fans. *sigh* What is the world coming to? I think I'll go to bed... *crawls under her covers*

11-06-2002, 01:14 AM	#1
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11-06-2002, 11:50 AM	#2
sonyab Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 03, 2002 Location: rochester ny Posts: 288	i love the show oh the show was great last night except for one thing.. freddy was 13 last night.. freddy isnt 13.. he was 13 a couple of years ago at that camping trip with his dad and grandpa.. they messed up..

11-06-2002, 01:24 PM	#5
sonyab Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 03, 2002 Location: rochester ny Posts: 288	hi hmmm well the kid isnt that bad he just looks a little older than 13.. it was very funny with the camera and frasier talking star trekkieng rofl.. he still has got it.. hmm cute handle name frasier w crane.. what does the w stand for?

11-06-2002, 02:32 PM	#6
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	I really liked last night's ep. It was great when Frasier started talking Klingon and everybody in the room was confused except for Frasier's family who really thought he was speaking Hebrew.
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11-06-2002, 07:18 PM	#8
callmetootie Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 06, 2001 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 4,768	Hail BEBE!!!! Great performance by Beebs...weak episode in general, but still worth while.
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11-06-2002, 12:11 PM	#3
Frasier W. Crane Farewell, Frasier Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 22, 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 782	DANG DANG DANG!!! Portland's Stupid election coverage made me and everyone else in my area miss it!!! Our news stations are so pathetic.....

11-06-2002, 01:00 PM	#4
UpstairsSteak Shine On Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 30, 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 303	It was pretty good but you're right sonyab wasn't Freddy 13 in the camping ep? And why did they ever pick that kid to play Lilith and Frasier's son?

11-06-2002, 07:40 PM	#9
Central Perk ~~~~~ Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2002 Posts: 4,553	I personally am really starting to loose faith in Frasier, it was an ok episode but hardly as good as the earlier ones. They are running out of ideas but still I think they could come up with some more funny storylines. Personally I seem to be enjoying Life With Bonnie a lot more than Frasier. I hope Frasier can get its act together, maybe bring on some new writers.

11-06-2002, 08:36 PM	#11
purplefuzzycouch Bebe Neuwirth fan! Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 04, 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 168	i thought the episode was hilarious every time lilith opened her mouth i just laughed.and i disagree i still think frasier is a good show and better than life with bonnie. my opinion

11-08-2002, 07:21 PM	#13
dancrchic26 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 08, 2002 Location: usa Posts: 26	reply I think that Frasier's still funny. With their new episode next week it is supposed to bring up the ratings but I think that this episode was great! hehe Lilith is so funny
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11-08-2002, 09:24 PM	#14
Frasier W. Crane Farewell, Frasier Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 22, 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 782	I actually got to see it at 7:30 last night....( I couldn't on Tues cause of the election)...it was good...the camera thing was funny, and the clips at the end were to

11-12-2002, 12:03 AM	#15
Dr. Lilith Sternin Ice Cube in Heels Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 31, 2002 Posts: 523	I didn't actually see it last Tuesday night because I went to see Bebe at the Q&A which KICKED ASS! I'll get into it some other time, because tonight I'm very upset and just... not in the right emotional state to write about such a thrilling experience for me. Anyway, I ended up watching my tape of Star Mitzvah on Wednesday, and was slightly disappointed. It wasn't your average Lilith episode. She wasn't in it enough... or something. Bebe, of course, was fabulous. Isn't she always? I think it was Trevor who ruined it for me. He was annoying enough in The Apparent Trap, but I could deal because there was a lot of Frith focus. This episode was basically focused on Frederick and I couldn't stomach him. He's gotten even less cute over the years, if that's possible. Who in their right mind would cast such a horrendous actor, with the personality to match his talent, or lack there of, as the offspring of Frasier and Lilith? I mean, he's not even cute! The cute factor doesn't even negate the lack of talent. There's absolutely nothing there?! I'm horribly mean, but it completely irks me every time I see him. What makes it worse is that the little boys who originally played Frederick on Cheers (Christopher and Kevin Graves) were absolutely adorable, and that little boy they had for ONE episode on Frasier... Frasier Grinch... was so incredibly cute. Whatever, Trevor is NOT. sigh How's that for transfering my inevitable aggressions onto an innocent party? Yeah, that's what I thought. LOL. As for the plot making absolutely no sense, you're quite correct. I've said that since I heard about the episode. They say straight out that Freddie was 13 in Cranes Unplugged. How can they justify him turning 13 again a whole year and a half later? sigh I think they were just trying to devise a way to bring Bebe on, yet not encourage any hope for us Frith fans. sigh What is the world coming to? I think I'll go to bed... crawls under her covers
	__________________ "Musical theatre -- it's totally American and when it's good, it's like nothing else." ~Bebe Neuwirth </center> Lilith: I mapped out our dominant and recessive traits on a genome square, applied Mendel's laws, allowed for anomolies, and concluded that you are the best biological choice. Frasier: I see. Well, enticed as I am by your honeyed words, I'm gonna need some kissin'. Lilith: Frasier, don't misunderstand. I'm not proposing any change in our relationship. Frasier: Would we sleep together? Lilith: I thought we'd freeze your sperm. Frasier: Is that a yes or a no? Lilith: Natural fertilization isn't practical. I'd have to fly to Seattle every time I ovulate. Frasier: Right, okay. So then, your plan is for me to visit some local doctor, freeze my essence, and then bring it home with you. Lilith: Correct. I'll take mine to go!

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