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JamesG · 04-02-2012, 02:37 PM

Keck's Exclusives First Look: "Dallas" Honors Miss Ellie
Apr 1, 2012
by William Keck

J.R., Sue Ellen, Bobby, Ray, Cliff and Lucy will be back at Southfork when TNT's "Dallas" premieres June 13, but one original cast member will not return.

Barbara Bel Geddes, who played beloved matriarch Miss Ellie, passed away in 2005, and the series will explain that her character died in 2001. But her presence will still be strongly felt.

"Barbara is a big piece of our history, and it's important to me to honor her," says TV son Patrick Duffy, whose Bobby will be seen laying a simple bouquet of flowers at Mama's grave.

"To come back with Linda [Gray] as Sue Ellen and Larry [Hagman] in his J.R. hat, and then see the words ELLIE SOUTHWORTH EWING FARLOW on the gravestone made me think, 'Oh, that's right — she's gone.' It was hard to get through the dialogue."

There will be other tributes to Barbara, as well as to the late Jim Davis, who played Ellie's husband, Jock. Bobby will take his new wife, Ann, to a sweetheart tree where his parents carved their initials.

And the production designer, Richard Berg, painted a portrait of Ellie and Jock to hang in the redesigned Ewing home. "He captured Jim and Barbara in a look to each other that is unbelievable," raves Patrick.

"That painting is actually alive and gives me a nice feeling that they're always there. Through the whole first season, I don't think an episode goes by that Mama is not mentioned in reference to Southfork and the land."

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dallas-M...e-1045522.aspx

catlover79 · 04-02-2012, 02:47 PM

Thanks for posting that interview!! What a sweet and touching story.

Mr. Television · 04-02-2012, 03:40 PM

That is so wonderful. She was the heart and soul of Dallas and deserves to be remembered. No mention of Howard Keel though. I wonder what they'll say about Clayton?

MikeLutton · 04-02-2012, 08:14 PM

wil Clayton be rememberd to mr howard keel

MickeyMac · 04-04-2012, 06:37 PM

When they first started talking about the new series, they had mentioned that Clayton has passed on was buried at Southfork next to Ellie. I dont think they should re cast the role since Howard Keel is gone.

Mr. Television · 04-04-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeyMac

When they first started talking about the new series, they had mentioned that Clayton has passed on was buried at Southfork next to Ellie. I dont think they should re cast the role since Howard Keel is gone.

That's nice to hear. There appears to be 2 gravestones on the photo above. Maybe the other one is Clayton's.

catlover79 · 04-05-2012, 03:11 AM

That's sweet - and a nice nod to the show's roots.

Retro4Life · 04-05-2012, 11:17 AM

Yeah, this is a good sign that they are honoring the past and the wonderful (and essential) contributions of Barbara Bel Geddes. I'm impressed.

It's still hard for me to believe I'm going to be interested in this, though. I have a strong feeling the three adults from the old show will be in the background (they surely aren't going to have 80 year old J.R. sleeping around and being as actively evil as he was, it would be a bit silly), and I really don't care about the kids. I really wish they'd have been able to get Pam back (Victoria Principal). Without her, Bobby seems out of sorts and I always wanted them to end up "together". I'm sure they'll have some lame explanation as to why she's not around, but it won't be good enough.

Oh, I LOVED Dallas in its first four or five years. But for me, after Jim Davis died and Bel Geddes left, and all the crazy 'back from the dead' and 'reconstructive surgery' stuff started happening, it just got really weak. And once you kind of got that J.R. was never really going to get his, alot of the suspense was gone.

Again, nice touch on the grave scene. Kind of rare these days.

catlover79 · 04-05-2012, 05:30 PM

Has Victoria Principal even been approached about appearing on the new show? As for JR, I could still see him being, ahem, active - another Hugh Hefner!!!

Cliff Barnes · 04-06-2012, 09:35 PM

I enjoyed the show after Pam left even more than I did when she was there. Victoria Principal has made it clear she never wants to come back vocally, so it seems like a fine thing to me to move the story on without her.

MikeLutton · 04-06-2012, 11:42 PM

i got know something please help me with this how is everyone or some people getting the series on preview box set sent to their homes before everyone else

Retro4Life · 04-07-2012, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

Has Victoria Principal even been approached about appearing on the new show? As for JR, I could still see him being, ahem, active - another Hugh Hefner!!!

Well, I'm kinda thinking there's only ONE Hugh Hefner, but I know what you mean!

As to Principal, her wikipedia says that rumors have been flying that she might be asked to come back (probably not as a regular, if she did) but nothing for sure yet.

Mr. Television · 04-07-2012, 10:42 AM

Pam was far from my favorite character on Dallas but what I hated was the way they wrote her out and sort of left her in limbo. I would have rather they recast her than leave her like that.

Dr. Thong · 04-07-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck In The '70's

Pam was far from my favorite character on Dallas but what I hated was the way they wrote her out and sort of left her in limbo. I would have rather they recast her than leave her like that.

Pam was recast with actress Margaret Michaels for one episode in season 11. But the character never appeared again.

Retro4Life · 04-07-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Thong

Pam was recast with actress Margaret Michaels for one episode in season 11. But the character never appeared again.

Something tells me that if Pam ever reappears, no one is going to want to see the recast. If they don't bring back Principal, they might as well not bother.

04-02-2012, 02:37 PM	#1
JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,075	"Dallas" First Look: Honoring Miss Ellie *Keck's Exclusives First Look: "Dallas" Honors Miss Ellie* Apr 1, 2012 by William Keck J.R., Sue Ellen, Bobby, Ray, Cliff and Lucy will be back at Southfork when TNT's "Dallas" premieres June 13, but one original cast member will not return. Barbara Bel Geddes, who played beloved matriarch Miss Ellie, passed away in 2005, and the series will explain that her character died in 2001. But her presence will still be strongly felt. "Barbara is a big piece of our history, and it's important to me to honor her," says TV son Patrick Duffy, whose Bobby will be seen laying a simple bouquet of flowers at Mama's grave. "To come back with Linda [Gray] as Sue Ellen and Larry [Hagman] in his J.R. hat, and then see the words ELLIE SOUTHWORTH EWING FARLOW on the gravestone made me think, 'Oh, that's right — she's gone.' It was hard to get through the dialogue." There will be other tributes to Barbara, as well as to the late Jim Davis, who played Ellie's husband, Jock. Bobby will take his new wife, Ann, to a sweetheart tree where his parents carved their initials. And the production designer, Richard Berg, painted a portrait of Ellie and Jock to hang in the redesigned Ewing home. "He captured Jim and Barbara in a look to each other that is unbelievable," raves Patrick. "That painting is actually alive and gives me a nice feeling that they're always there. Through the whole first season, I don't think an episode goes by that Mama is not mentioned in reference to Southfork and the land." http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dallas-M...e-1045522.aspx Attached Images

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04-05-2012, 11:17 AM	#8
Retro4Life Accept No Substitutes Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 04, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 6,708	Yeah, this is a good sign that they are honoring the past and the wonderful (and essential) contributions of Barbara Bel Geddes. I'm impressed. It's still hard for me to believe I'm going to be interested in this, though. I have a strong feeling the three adults from the old show will be in the background (they surely aren't going to have 80 year old J.R. sleeping around and being as actively evil as he was, it would be a bit silly), and I really don't care about the kids. I really wish they'd have been able to get Pam back (Victoria Principal). Without her, Bobby seems out of sorts and I always wanted them to end up "together". I'm sure they'll have some lame explanation as to why she's not around, but it won't be good enough. Oh, I LOVED Dallas in its first four or five years. But for me, after Jim Davis died and Bel Geddes left, and all the crazy 'back from the dead' and 'reconstructive surgery' stuff started happening, it just got really weak. And once you kind of got that J.R. was never really going to get his, alot of the suspense was gone. Again, nice touch on the grave scene. Kind of rare these days.
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04-04-2012, 06:37 PM	#5
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,004	When they first started talking about the new series, they had mentioned that Clayton has passed on was buried at Southfork next to Ellie. I dont think they should re cast the role since Howard Keel is gone.

04-05-2012, 03:11 AM	#7
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	That's sweet - and a nice nod to the show's roots.

04-05-2012, 05:30 PM	#9
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	Has Victoria Principal even been approached about appearing on the new show? As for JR, I could still see him being, ahem, active - another Hugh Hefner!!!

04-06-2012, 09:35 PM	#10
Cliff Barnes Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 09, 2005 Posts: 163	I enjoyed the show after Pam left even more than I did when she was there. Victoria Principal has made it clear she never wants to come back vocally, so it seems like a fine thing to me to move the story on without her.

04-06-2012, 11:42 PM	#11
MikeLutton Mike Lutton DVD Legend! Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 05, 2005 Location: usa pennsyvania Posts: 6,883	i got know something please help me with this how is everyone or some people getting the series on preview box set sent to their homes before everyone else

04-07-2012, 10:42 AM	#13
Mr. Television 23 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,133	Pam was far from my favorite character on Dallas but what I hated was the way they wrote her out and sort of left her in limbo. I would have rather they recast her than leave her like that.