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kamy · 03-31-2009, 12:10 PM

Sorry if I'm repeating a previous thread, I did a quick search and came up with nothing---I was just watching Cold Case on A&E and they had an episode on the San Mateo Arsonist, the creepy Omar one! It was even creepier than UM!!!!

Apparently they got a lead on a suspect after his own home garage went up in flames. In the garage they found animal parts, sacrifical items, large saws and blades and headless dummies. Lots of home videos were found of other fires he set and of the suspect himself (and his friends) doing bizarre and evil things. One video, the suspect (they blurred his eyes) was calling a homemade dummy "father" and then repeatedly stabbed him and beheaded him. Several vids depicted the youth dressed as a vampire and praising satan and evil and stuff. Very troubled kid. Needless to say, it was very disturbing.

Creepy half hour. Didn't know if anyone else watched it. The cops said they allowed the 18year old to plead guilty to only the fire that was shown on UM, although they know he committed several others--they said they wanted to get him help and not so much punish him. Can't remember the time he got, but hopefully he's a much healthier member of society now....

TracyLynnS · 03-31-2009, 01:08 PM

Wish I would have seen it. I remember watching it a long time ago, but I forgot a lot of the details. I think the UM segment said he was sent to a psychiatric facility for treatment, but I don't know for how long, either.

With that much hate and anger involved, it's a complete miracle that no one died as a result of any of that kid's arsons.

ms_bates · 03-31-2009, 01:35 PM

I'd like to see that!

I re-watched the UM segment recently, and it was as creepy as I remembered. Maybe even a little creepier, since I moved to San Mateo County as an adult.

Maybe I should try and find out where some of the locations from the segment were, and go take pictures.

peachysquirt21 · 03-31-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kamy

Sorry if I'm repeating a previous thread, I did a quick search and came up with nothing---I was just watching Cold Case on A&E and they had an episode on the San Mateo Arsonist, the creepy Omar one! It was even creepier than UM!!!!

Apparently they got a lead on a suspect after his own home garage went up in flames. In the garage they found animal parts, sacrifical items, large saws and blades and headless dummies. Lots of home videos were found of other fires he set and of the suspect himself (and his friends) doing bizarre and evil things. One video, the suspect (they blurred his eyes) was calling a homemade dummy "father" and then repeatedly stabbed him and beheaded him. Several vids depicted the youth dressed as a vampire and praising satan and evil and stuff. Very troubled kid. Needless to say, it was very disturbing.

Creepy half hour. Didn't know if anyone else watched it. The cops said they allowed the 18year old to plead guilty to only the fire that was shown on UM, although they know he committed several others--they said they wanted to get him help and not so much punish him. Can't remember the time he got, but hopefully he's a much healthier member of society now....

Thank god I missed this. I watched the episode once on UM & that was more then enough for me. That guy is a looney tune & just listening to the UM gives me the creeps. If anyone has watched this episode at night, kudos to you cause I could barely stand watching it in the daytime.

I have to say this Omar guy should be doing horror movies. He would fit perfectly in the mix.

TracyLynnS · 03-31-2009, 04:22 PM

It's gonna be back on in about a half an hour according to www.aetv.com

TracyLynnS · 03-31-2009, 06:53 PM

Okie dokie. I watched it. That dude has issues.

Since the guy was around 18 when he was setting those fires in the late 80s, he's around 40 years old now. I wonder if they were ever able to rehabilitate him or if he was so messed up that he was in and out of the system until the point that he ended up being in the system permanently.

edit: Oh, and the case they had on before his was the one about Peter Kupaza, the guy who killed, skinned, and dismembered his cousin from tanzania who was living with him. She was ID'd through a new type of high tech thingie that built a reproduction of her skull from laser cuts of paper, then the forensic artist made a clay likeness of her that immediately led to her identity.

I noticed that they used the dog, Eagle, in that case. Eagle was the dog whose owner, Sandra Anderson, was proven to be a fraud, who was planting fake evidence at crime scenes. I think that the guy was guilty in this case. He lied to the cops from the very first question of "do you recognize the woman in this picture?" When everyone else said it looked like his cousin, he couldn't think of anyone that it resembled. I wonder if this case was one of the ones that they went back through to make sure that his conviction stuck.

MegtheEgg86 · 03-31-2009, 07:53 PM

I actually saw the Cold Case Files segment on the "Omar" arsonist about two years before I ever knew there was a UM segment on him. I guess that's why the UM segment didn't really freak me out when I first saw it, because I already knew it was some dipwad kid who'd been caught.

Mimmy · 03-31-2009, 07:59 PM

I am really sorry that I missed this. It is one of my favorite cases. I remember in the UM segment they did not identify the arsonist (I believe it was because he was underage). Did they give his name in the CCF segment?

justins5256 · 04-01-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimmy

I am really sorry that I missed this. It is one of my favorite cases. I remember in the UM segment they did not identify the arsonist (I believe it was because he was underage). Did they give his name in the CCF segment?

I don't know about CCF but I have seen the Omar story profiled on another show and the kid's name was never disclosed, nor did they show his face.

TracyLynnS · 04-01-2009, 09:42 AM

Yep, they blurred out his face and that of his friend when they were showing clips of the videos they had taken of themselves.

I'm not exactly sure why the authorities decided to conceal this guy's identity. He was an adult when he committed some of those arsons so it's not like they had to protect him because he was a minor. The could have ID'd him if they wanted to, I guess...

Although, the authorities viewed the videos and recognized that the kid needed professional help. They seemed really interested in getting him treatment, rather than just having him tossed in jail. The fact that he went on to a mental health facility may have been a major reason they didn't reveal his name publicly.

CowboyStudTied · 04-17-2009, 10:53 AM

they had it on spike a few years back on america's craziest or wildest videos and he lit the fires and he spoke in this chilling waspy voice.

what is the name of the episode

TracyLynnS · 04-17-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CowboyStudTied

they had it on spike a few years back on america's craziest or wildest videos and he lit the fires and he spoke in this chilling waspy voice.

what is the name of the episode

On UM, it's called The Stockton Arsonist. I don't know what Cold Case Files called it.

Here's a link to the UM website summary:

http://www.unsolved.com/ajaxfiles/so...n_arsonist.htm

TracyLynnS · 04-20-2009, 09:10 AM

MissKitka, not only was he an adult when he committed some major arsons, he actually lit one house on fire while it was occupied, at night!

The people living there discovered the fire and put it out before it had a chance to kill them.

That's the only reason this guy is an arsonist and not a murderer.

SiberianKiss · 04-22-2009, 04:34 AM

I saw that Cold Case Files episode. What a freaking dork. And very sick too. His videos were stupid and creepy. You know what really pissed me off, is the aronist investigators were all like "we were just so happy we were able to identify this young man and get him some help" What!? Punk was a serial arsonist, could have killed someone, and he caused millions in damage. Oh and he tortured animals! That's worse than the arson.

How pathetic these law enforcement folks were with their "oh poor boy, let's help him" Please gimme a break. You know what his punishment should have been? He should have been doused with gasoline and then lit on fire! Now that would've been poetic justice. Maybe somebody could have videotaped it while saying "ooooh look at the fire! Look at pathetic loser burn to death! I told you I'd do it Omar! ahahahahahaha!"

Now wouldn't that have been a just punishment? Instead of a weak slap on the wrist. Unbelievable.

TracyLynnS · 04-22-2009, 09:41 AM

Torturing animals.
Setting fires.

The next step in the historically predictable pattern is full blown serial killer.

03-31-2009, 12:10 PM	#1
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	Omar Creepy Arsonist on Cold Case Files Sorry if I'm repeating a previous thread, I did a quick search and came up with nothing---I was just watching Cold Case on A&E and they had an episode on the San Mateo Arsonist, the creepy Omar one! It was even creepier than UM!!!! Apparently they got a lead on a suspect after his own home garage went up in flames. In the garage they found animal parts, sacrifical items, large saws and blades and headless dummies. Lots of home videos were found of other fires he set and of the suspect himself (and his friends) doing bizarre and evil things. One video, the suspect (they blurred his eyes) was calling a homemade dummy "father" and then repeatedly stabbed him and beheaded him. Several vids depicted the youth dressed as a vampire and praising satan and evil and stuff. Very troubled kid. Needless to say, it was very disturbing. Creepy half hour. Didn't know if anyone else watched it. The cops said they allowed the 18year old to plead guilty to only the fire that was shown on UM, although they know he committed several others--they said they wanted to get him help and not so much punish him. Can't remember the time he got, but hopefully he's a much healthier member of society now....

03-31-2009, 07:53 PM	#7
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	I actually saw the Cold Case Files segment on the "Omar" arsonist about two years before I ever knew there was a UM segment on him. I guess that's why the UM segment didn't really freak me out when I first saw it, because I already knew it was some dipwad kid who'd been caught.
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03-31-2009, 01:08 PM	#2
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	Wish I would have seen it. I remember watching it a long time ago, but I forgot a lot of the details. I think the UM segment said he was sent to a psychiatric facility for treatment, but I don't know for how long, either. With that much hate and anger involved, it's a complete miracle that no one died as a result of any of that kid's arsons.

03-31-2009, 01:35 PM	#3
ms_bates Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 14, 2008 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 134	I'd like to see that! I re-watched the UM segment recently, and it was as creepy as I remembered. Maybe even a little creepier, since I moved to San Mateo County as an adult. Maybe I should try and find out where some of the locations from the segment were, and go take pictures.

03-31-2009, 04:22 PM	#5
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	It's gonna be back on in about a half an hour according to www.aetv.com

03-31-2009, 06:53 PM	#6
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	Okie dokie. I watched it. That dude has issues. Since the guy was around 18 when he was setting those fires in the late 80s, he's around 40 years old now. I wonder if they were ever able to rehabilitate him or if he was so messed up that he was in and out of the system until the point that he ended up being in the system permanently. edit: Oh, and the case they had on before his was the one about Peter Kupaza, the guy who killed, skinned, and dismembered his cousin from tanzania who was living with him. She was ID'd through a new type of high tech thingie that built a reproduction of her skull from laser cuts of paper, then the forensic artist made a clay likeness of her that immediately led to her identity. I noticed that they used the dog, Eagle, in that case. Eagle was the dog whose owner, Sandra Anderson, was proven to be a fraud, who was planting fake evidence at crime scenes. I think that the guy was guilty in this case. He lied to the cops from the very first question of "do you recognize the woman in this picture?" When everyone else said it looked like his cousin, he couldn't think of anyone that it resembled. I wonder if this case was one of the ones that they went back through to make sure that his conviction stuck.

03-31-2009, 07:59 PM	#8
Mimmy Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 06, 2008 Location: East Coast Posts: 32	I am really sorry that I missed this. It is one of my favorite cases. I remember in the UM segment they did not identify the arsonist (I believe it was because he was underage). Did they give his name in the CCF segment?

04-01-2009, 09:42 AM	#10
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	Yep, they blurred out his face and that of his friend when they were showing clips of the videos they had taken of themselves. I'm not exactly sure why the authorities decided to conceal this guy's identity. He was an adult when he committed some of those arsons so it's not like they had to protect him because he was a minor. The could have ID'd him if they wanted to, I guess... Although, the authorities viewed the videos and recognized that the kid needed professional help. They seemed really interested in getting him treatment, rather than just having him tossed in jail. The fact that he went on to a mental health facility may have been a major reason they didn't reveal his name publicly.

04-17-2009, 10:53 AM	#11
CowboyStudTied Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 06, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 54	they had it on spike a few years back on america's craziest or wildest videos and he lit the fires and he spoke in this chilling waspy voice. what is the name of the episode

04-20-2009, 09:10 AM	#13
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	MissKitka, not only was he an adult when he committed some major arsons, he actually lit one house on fire while it was occupied, at night! The people living there discovered the fire and put it out before it had a chance to kill them. That's the only reason this guy is an arsonist and not a murderer.

04-22-2009, 04:34 AM	#14
SiberianKiss Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 08, 2006 Posts: 204	I saw that Cold Case Files episode. What a freaking dork. And very sick too. His videos were stupid and creepy. You know what really pissed me off, is the aronist investigators were all like "we were just so happy we were able to identify this young man and get him some help" What!? Punk was a serial arsonist, could have killed someone, and he caused millions in damage. Oh and he tortured animals! That's worse than the arson. How pathetic these law enforcement folks were with their "oh poor boy, let's help him" Please gimme a break. You know what his punishment should have been? He should have been doused with gasoline and then lit on fire! Now that would've been poetic justice. Maybe somebody could have videotaped it while saying "ooooh look at the fire! Look at pathetic loser burn to death! I told you I'd do it Omar! ahahahahahaha!" Now wouldn't that have been a just punishment? Instead of a weak slap on the wrist. Unbelievable.

04-22-2009, 09:41 AM	#15
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	Torturing animals. Setting fires. The next step in the historically predictable pattern is full blown serial killer.