a plethora of new info on Bobbi Parker and Randolph Dial

[wiseguy182]

ok, so I'm on vacation from work and I finally got around to watching the Datline episode on this that I taped when it aired a little while ago. Anyways, there was a bunch of new info on it that I thought I would share. I took notes on it as I watched it so my notes are a little disorganized.

-When Bobbi's van was found a couple days after their disappearance (100 miles away from the prison) they found duct tape with strands of Bobbi's hair on it

-Bobbi's best friend said something to this effect on the program "There is no way that she would go with a aging, skinny man, with no front teeth, white-haired, obnoxious man." (she snickers when she says this and so did I)

-This occured in the summer of 1994 in Oklahoma. FBI agents that were investigating it put it on the backburner when the Oklahoma city bombings occured early the next year.

-I gotta warn ya's this is disturbing: -When he was captured, Randolph said he ducked down in the passenger side of Bobbi's van and waited for her, and held a knife to an artery on her leg.

-Dial said that they moved around constantly, and they would perform menial jobs with her doing most of the work and him working on his ceramics. She often performed back-breaking, grueling physical work.

-Dial said he threatened her daughters, which is why she didn't make a move to get out of there.

-Some believe that Bobbi was a willing accomplice, and point out that she often went to the market alone, and when Dial became ill (I think had a heart attack) she called 911 and took care of him as he was recovering. They also mention letters and Valentine's day cards the two sent each other, and said that it appeared they were sleeping in the same bed.

-Others, however, say that Bobbi was always crying and Dial appeared drunk all the time, and they he abused her often. It is also reported that Dial often drugger her to keep her from having energy.

-It is believed that Dial had mafia ties.

-Her husband and daughters bought and kept Christmas gifts all the while she was gone. (that was really touching)

-I couldn't tell for sure because he only appeared for a second, but I think the guy that interviewed Frank Delano Floyd in the UM segment, also makes an appearance here. Both cases had Oklahoma ties, so this could be true.

I always believed that Bobbi was kidnapped, and did not go willingly, and I still do.

[kamy]

Great find, wiseguy!!!! Interesting info. Anyone know if she and her husband remained together? After all that time I wondered if they were still "in love" after all she went through.......

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by kamy

Great find, wiseguy!!!! Interesting info. Anyone know if she and her husband remained together? After all that time I wondered if they were still "in love" after all she went through.......

good question, they were reunited, but for some reason, her husband and daughters did not appear on the show/or interview. The husband appeared very briefly in a taped interview, but other than that we didn't see him. I can't remember if they were in the UM segment or not. Her daughters, I believe they said, are now a college junior and a high school senior, so they had a lot of catching up to do I would imagine.

[Todd Mueller]

Great stuff, wiseguy! Thanks for sharing.

I know the husband was on the UM segment but I don't think the daughters were. I think actors played the girls for the UM story.

I could never make up my mind on which way to go with this. I always leaned towards he abducted her and then she suffered from "Stockholm Syndrome." Yet I do think it is very possible she just wanted out. I don't know if this applies to her or not, but mental illness can make a person do some very weird stuff.

Great update!

[PrettyinPink55]

Thanks for the info, Wiseguy!!! I wish I had seen this Dateline special!!!

I still think Bobbi suffered from Stockholm Syndrome...but it's always interesing to hear the other sides of the argument!

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by PrettyinPink55

Thanks for the info, Wiseguy!!! I wish I had seen this Dateline special!!!

I still think Bobbi suffered from Stockholm Syndrome...but it's always interesing to hear the other sides of the argument!

i still have it on tape, but the reception/quality is less than stellar (black and white)

[user296686@aol.c]

Originally Posted by wiseguy182

ok, so I'm on vacation from work and I finally got around to watching the Datline episode on this that I taped when it aired a little while ago. Anyways, there was a bunch of new info on it that I thought I would share. I took notes on it as I watched it so my notes are a little disorganized.

-When Bobbi's van was found a couple days after their disappearance (100 miles away from the prison) they found duct tape with strands of Bobbi's hair on it

-Bobbi's best friend said something to this effect on the program "There is no way that she would go with a aging, skinny man, with no front teeth, white-haired, obnoxious man." (she snickers when she says this and so did I)

-This occured in the summer of 1994 in Oklahoma. FBI agents that were investigating it put it on the backburner when the Oklahoma city bombings occured early the next year.

-I gotta warn ya's this is disturbing: -When he was captured, Randolph said he ducked down in the passenger side of Bobbi's van and waited for her, and held a knife to an artery on her leg.

-Dial said that they moved around constantly, and they would perform menial jobs with her doing most of the work and him working on his ceramics. She often performed back-breaking, grueling physical work.

-Dial said he threatened her daughters, which is why she didn't make a move to get out of there.

-Some believe that Bobbi was a willing accomplice, and point out that she often went to the market alone, and when Dial became ill (I think had a heart attack) she called 911 and took care of him as he was recovering. They also mention letters and Valentine's day cards the two sent each other, and said that it appeared they were sleeping in the same bed.

-Others, however, say that Bobbi was always crying and Dial appeared drunk all the time, and they he abused her often. It is also reported that Dial often drugger her to keep her from having energy.

-It is believed that Dial had mafia ties.

-Her husband and daughters bought and kept Christmas gifts all the while she was gone. (that was really touching)

-I couldn't tell for sure because he only appeared for a second, but I think the guy that interviewed Frank Delano Floyd in the UM segment, also makes an appearance here. Both cases had Oklahoma ties, so this could be true.

I always believed that Bobbi was kidnapped, and did not go willingly, and I still do.

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by user296686@aol.c

So Wiseguy isn't allowed to voice his opinion on this subject? It seems you're willing to discuss these cases as long as everyone agrees with you.

[Big3sCompanyFan]

It's incredibly obvious Bobbi CHOSE to stay with Dial. She had thousands of chances to leave and was left alone EVERY DAY. Even witnesses said she was alone and could've simply called police for help and/or just left.

She was charged, right?

[mphs95]

Thanks for the background. I like to know all the facts before I come up with a theory, not just "vomit" an opinion.

[user296686@aol.c]

Originally Posted by crystaldawn

So Wiseguy isn't allowed to voice his opinion on this subject? It seems you're willing to discuss these cases as long as everyone agrees with you.

WOW.

I NEVER said wiseguy wasn't allowed to voice his opinion, crystaldawn. I was merely voicing mine. Take 'er down a notch... jeez.

Part of the fun of these boards is the fact that everyone DOESN'T agree. I am willing to discuss any subject on here with anyone, whether they believe the same thing I believe or not. That is the fun of it. It would be pretty boring and threads would die pretty quickly if everyone here agreed on everything posted.

Bobbi Parker and Darlie Routier are the only threads I've really commented on with the exception of a R.I.P. message for someone who has passed or to welcome someone to the board. As fate would have it, you and I disagree on the only two cases I've posted on. Oh well... that's the way it is. As you told me earlier, we'll just have to agree to disagree, and thats fine with me. It seems to me that you are the one who has a problem with people disagreeing with you.

I speak on this Bobbi Parker thing from my own personal experience. I was attacked at an ATM a few years back at knife point at my THROAT. I was told to get in my car to drive him where he wanted to go. I flipped out. Fear... anger... everything mixed together.... I flipped out, started screaming... told him if he was going to kill me he was going to do it here and now... that I was NOT going to drive off to God knows where before he did it. He, in turn, freaked out and ran away. Was that a smart move? I don't know. It worked for me. Had it been a different person or situation, it may not have worked. And that was at night (stupidly), without armed guards or anyone else around me. I am only speaking from my own personal experience as to why it is so hard for me to believe that this could happen in such a secure area in broad-open daylight with armed guards around. And the same goes for her idiotic husband. What kind of idiot lets a convicted murderer go anywhere near the home his wife and children live in?? That seems to be the only point you and I agree on and like I said, that's fine. It's no fun to be here without opposition.

Pam

[user296686@aol.c]

Originally Posted by mphs95

Thanks for the background. I like to know all the facts before I come up with a theory, not just "vomit" an opinion.

Hi mph95

Thanks for your opinion. What gives you the impression that I DON'T know the facts of the case? I DO know the facts of the case and that is why her story simply doesn't hold water... with ME. That is not to say that everyone has to agree with me. I have only commented on two cases on this entire board and those are Darlie Routier and Bobbi Parker. And only then because it happens that I have followed both cases for years. I have only commented on those two cases because they are the only ones here that I feel I have enough information on to even give an opinion. I don't post blindly. If you believe Bobbi Parker, that's fine. That is absolutely your right, and I respect that. Even though my right to disagree doesn't seem to be respected. Like crystaldawn told me, "We'll just have to agree to disagree". I don't have a problem with it.

Pam

[user296686@aol.c]

Originally Posted by Big3sCompanyFan

It's incredibly obvious Bobbi CHOSE to stay with Dial. She had thousands of chances to leave and was left alone EVERY DAY. Even witnesses said she was alone and could've simply called police for help and/or just left.

She was charged, right?

Hi Big3scompanyFan

Yes, she has been charged.

http://newsok.com/article/3227070

Pam

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by user296686@aol.c

WOW.

I NEVER said wiseguy wasn't allowed to voice his opinion, crystaldawn. I was merely voicing mine. Take 'er down a notch... jeez.

Part of the fun of these boards is the fact that everyone DOESN'T agree. I am willing to discuss any subject on here with anyone, whether they believe the same thing I believe or not. That is the fun of it. It would be pretty boring and threads would die pretty quickly if everyone here agreed on everything posted.

Bobbi Parker and Darlie Routier are the only threads I've really commented on with the exception of a R.I.P. message for someone who has passed or to welcome someone to the board. As fate would have it, you and I disagree on the only two cases I've posted on. Oh well... that's the way it is. As you told me earlier, we'll just have to agree to disagree, and thats fine with me. It seems to me that you are the one who has a problem with people disagreeing with you.

I speak on this Bobbi Parker thing from my own personal experience. I was attacked at an ATM a few years back at knife point at my THROAT. I was told to get in my car to drive him where he wanted to go. I flipped out. Fear... anger... everything mixed together.... I flipped out, started screaming... told him if he was going to kill me he was going to do it here and now... that I was NOT going to drive off to God knows where before he did it. He, in turn, freaked out and ran away. Was that a smart move? I don't know. It worked for me. Had it been a different person or situation, it may not have worked. And that was at night (stupidly), without armed guards or anyone else around me. I am only speaking from my own personal experience as to why it is so hard for me to believe that this could happen in such a secure area in broad-open daylight with armed guards around. And the same goes for her idiotic husband. What kind of idiot lets a convicted murderer go anywhere near the home his wife and children live in?? That seems to be the only point you and I agree on and like I said, that's fine. It's no fun to be here without opposition.

Pam

You bumped up an old thread which I found well thought out and written and your only reply was a How is that intelligently discussing the case? I just felt that it was quite tacky and as moderator felt I needed to say something. If you'll notice in the Bobbi Parkers threads I have not once criticized your opinion, at the most said I didn't agree with it and the reasons why. How does that make me intolerant of others opinions? You're right this board is all about different opinions and intelligently discussing the cases. The only way the board runs effectively however is if people are allowed to freely give their opinion.

As for the Darlie thread, you and I actually do agree for the most part, but I have thought you treated some people badly who simply didn't agree with you and you didn't seem to care for how they expressed their opinion and attacked them for it. I've already discussed that with you so its over as far as I'm concerned unless it comes up again of course. Everyone is entitled to express their opinion without being criticized even if they don't agree with you.

[user296686@aol.c]

Originally Posted by crystaldawn

You bumped up an old thread which I found well thought out and written and your only reply was a How is that intelligently discussing the case? I just felt that it was quite tacky and as moderator felt I needed to say something. If you'll notice in the Bobbi Parkers threads I have not once criticized your opinion, at the most said I didn't agree with it and the reasons why. How does that make me intolerant of others opinions? You're right this board is all about different opinions and intelligently discussing the cases. The only way the board runs effectively however is if people are allowed to freely give their opinion.

As for the Darlie thread, you and I actually do agree for the most part, but I have thought you treated some people badly who simply didn't agree with you and you didn't seem to care for how they expressed their opinion and attacked them for it. I've already discussed that with you so its over as far as I'm concerned unless it comes up again of course. Everyone is entitled to express their opinion without being criticized even if they don't agree with you.

Good morning CD

I'm not sure what post was 'bumped up' where my only response was a puke icon. I do recall making a comment back in June or somewhere around then about the JonBenet Ramsey case. (Yet another case you and I don't agree on, and quite honestly, I had forgotten about even commenting on it. So my apologies for saying Darlie and Bobbi are the only cases I've ever posted on.) But my statement basically was that I found it a little bit more than a coincidence that the entire family was cleared by "Touch DNA" and Ramsey just happens to be running for governor at the same time, and then used the puke icon. You thought whatever comment you are referring to was "well thought out and written" ... maybe it was well thought out and well written... but is it not my right to disagree with what the opinion is? If you think that it was a well written post, does that mean no one is allowed to disagree with it? Now I'm sure you don't actually believe that but again, all I was doing was stating my opinion. I think I replied twice to that thread. And if the puke icon is so tacky, then, as a moderator, why is it there for use? If that is how I feel about a post, and the icon is there for use, then why is it wrong for me to use it?

And as far as the Darlie Routier case, I don't remember you and I agreeing on much of anything. But I could very easily be wrong and if I am, I apologize, but I don't think I am. It was a thread with many posts. But I do not believe that I have ever attacked or criticized anyone on that thread or any other. If I have ever attacked anyone, on any post, please let me know which one(s) in particular and I will immediately apologize to anyone I've offended. If I believe strongly in something, I'm going to stand up for that, the same as you will and have. And to be honest with you, and no disrepect crystaldawn, I would be willing to bet that if I'd thrown that puke icon up there and you agreed with me, you wouldn't be quite so peeved.

I feel that I give you all due respect as moderator and begin and end posts with a smile because this is, after all, only a discussion board and nothing is meant personally or to offend anyone.

And once again, if the icons that are here are considered "tacky" or considered to be a response who's use is improper, then they should be removed. I'm not the first to use that icon, and unless it is removed, I doubt I'll be the last. You are actually doing to me what you are criticizing me for doing.
You are criticizing the way I expressed an opinion... With an icon that is on this board... that is there for that purpose... expression.


Pam