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comedylover2002 · 09-25-2002, 06:03 PM

I am interested to know and discuss what people's thoughts are about the E true Hollywood Story about Freddie. Personally, I thought they could have done another hour on his life and career
and some of the information provided was in error as to who was speaking at his funeral service (the speech was credited to Jack Albertson, however, James Komack had given the speech that was used in the program)..Also, why no mention of his original secretary, Diane Rappaport, and of his album, and the TV movie made about him.
What are people's thoughts on Can You hear The Laughter ? The Story of Freddie Prinze ? I liked it, Ira Angustain did a fine job as Prinze,

and I think they should make a new one and update it. Take care, Freddie fans..

Pitooey · 09-25-2002, 08:53 PM

Hi - I personally didn't like Can you hear the Laughter because it was pure negativity about Freddie. I grew up seeing Freddie back then in the 70's and they really stretched his drug use throughout the whole movie giving him a bad rap. He was a positive entertainer back then and when he was on TV he bought the house down. I thought Ira did look like Freddie a bit though. If they ever made a nother movie on Freddie they should show his positive accomplishments. I don't see movies being done on Marilyn with drug use throughout the whole movies or James Dean and his obsession with driving. Freddie deserves a break. People make mistakes. His son deserves to hear the positive side of his father's life not the negative side all the time. His life was not all about drugs.........

Thanks for hearing me out Comedy lover..

SitcomsAreTheWay · 09-25-2002, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by comedylover2002
I am interested to know and discuss what people's thoughts are about the E true Hollywood Story about Freddie. Personally, I thought they could have done another hour on his life and career
and some of the information provided was in error as to who was speaking at his funeral service (the speech was credited to Jack Albertson, however, James Komack had given the speech that was used in the program)..Also, why no mention of his original secretary, Diane Rappaport, and of his album, and the TV movie made about him.
What are people's thoughts on Can You hear The Laughter ? The Story of Freddie Prinze ? I liked it, Ira Angustain did a fine job as Prinze, and I think they should make a new one and update it. Take care, Freddie fans..

I agree, his story should've been 2 hours because I think there were alot of other things in which had happened within his 22 years of living which weren't mentioned. Maybe the producers didn't have enough sources to fill them in on it. Maybe they weren't able reach Maria. I wonder if they had tried to reach his old friend, Nat, from New York City? Or did they not have him in mind at the time? I've also wondered why they didn't mention Diane Rappaport considering the fact that she had been in the picture before Carol and even before he became well-known.

There are just too many questions regarding why his story was only 1 hour in length.

As for the movie, "Can You Hear The Laughter?", it was pretty obvious that there were some inaccuracies regarding some of the events in which had taken place. Take the shooting scene for instance, the scene had Ira standing while staring at his reflection in the mirror with the gun placed at his temple, while mumbling something to himself when it's clearly stated in Freddie's biography that he was sitting on his couch while Marvin "Dusty" Snyder was on the other end of the coffee table. There was a suicide note on the coffee table in which he had written before he shot himself, and there was also an inaccuracy (regarding the scene) regarding what he (Freddie) had been wearing that morning.

It's possible that it could've been done for dramatical purposes though. All in all, I thought Ira did well with his portrayal of Freddie. He even resembled him a bit in the Inaugural scene and in the scene where he first moved into the Comstock Hotel.

SitcomsAreTheWay · 09-25-2002, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by JennyLee22
Hi - I personally didn't like Can you hear the Laughter because it was pure negativity about Freddie. I grew up seeing Freddie back then in the 70's and they really stretched his drug use throughout the whole movie giving him a bad rap. He was a positive entertainer back then and when he was on TV he bought the house down. I thought Ira did look like Freddie a bit though. If they ever made a nother movie on Freddie they should show his positive accomplishments. I don't see movies being done on Marilyn with drug use throughout the whole movies or James Dean and his obsession with driving. Freddie deserves a break. People make mistakes. His son deserves to hear the positive side of his father's life not the negative side all the time. His life was not all about drugs.........

Thanks for hearing me out Comedy lover..

I agree, they made him (Freddie) out to be some kind of ungrateful, spoiled, and violent monster.

Joy · 09-25-2002, 09:28 PM

I DIDN'T LIKE THE MOVIE CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER EITHER BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEGATIVITY ABOUT FREDDIE THE ONLY POSITIVE THING MENTIONED WAS WHEN FREDDIE TOLD HIS FRIEND THAT HE BOUGHT HIS MOM A HOUSE.
I THOUGFHT THE MOVIE MADE KATHY OUT TO BE THE VICTIM AND WHILE TO AN EXTENT SHE WAS,BECAUSE IT MUST HAVE BEEN DIFICULT TO WATCH SOMEONE YOU LOVE SUFFER AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT BUT SHE WAS TO BLAME FOR A LOT OF IT WITH HER SELFISH DEMANDS FOR A MAID AND SUCH.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN THE MOVIE WAS FIRST MADE MARIA AND JACK WERE UPSET AT THE PORTRAYAL OF FREDDIE(NOT DUE TO IRA)BUT THE WRITTING AND WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOVIE .
IF I AM WRONG ON THIS PLEASE CORRECT ME.
IN REGARDS TO THE E STORY IT WASINTERESTING AND I THOUGHT A LOT MORE ACURATE THAN THE MOVIE BUT KATHY TRIED TO ACT AS IF SHE DID ALL SHE COULD TO HELP HIM BUT IT WAS NO USE. SHE SAYS AT ONE POINT ON THERE THAT IF ASHE HAD BEEN AT THE COMSTOCK THAT NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPEND BUT SINCE HE CALLED HER AT LEAST TWICE TOI SAY WHAT HE WANTED TO DO WHY DIDN'T SHE GET HER BUNS OVER THERE TO STOP HIM THEN, IF SHE WAS SO SURE SHE COULD HAVE?
JUST MY OPINONS HERE, NOT INTENDED TO START TROUBLE

Rosalyz · 09-25-2002, 10:19 PM

I liked the E! true Hollywood story, but they should had taken more time for research; at least any from Freddie's relatives like Maria or his brothers (He has a brother and a sister from Karl's first marriage) or any of his cousings who can talk about his early years etc.. Instead of getting information from them, they give the position to speak for the family side to Kathy!!! In her comments, she says that if she would have knew about Freddie's decision that night, she would had stop him (Cause she was sooo accesible and helpful to him by that time!!!!)
Go ahead girls!!!, Lets get the darts!!!

Joy · 09-25-2002, 10:25 PM

i'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL HEARD THE EXPRESSION:IF LOOKS COULD KILL? WELL KATHY HONEY HERE ARE A FEW!

comedylover2002 · 09-25-2002, 10:33 PM

Rosalyz,
Agreed, they could have and should have done more research on Freddie. Where is his mother, Maria, today ? what about the former manager, David Jonas ? they didn't mention him either. And as you say, any of his relatives...and what about the many TV apprearances he made ? they seemed to keep showing the same images of Freddie and nothing new. Freddie was on The Tonight Show, The Mike Douglas Show, was there any mention of The Million Dollar Rip Off, the Tv movie he starred in ?

At a scant hour, E told Freddie's story but it was seemingly incomplete for this viewer as well as for others I am sure. God Bless you, Freddie Prinze...You did a great thing, you made the world laugh, and entertained it with style, charisma, charm, and great humor. Thank you for that

Cheryl Harrell · 09-26-2002, 02:01 AM

His mom has diabetes real bad & is living in Puerto-Rico with relatives.

And why didn't Kathy try to stop him? & Why did she try to keep him from seeing Jr when she knew that it would just destroy him to not be able to see his son anymore in addition to her divorcing him. I can understand her being afraid for the baby to be around the pills, but if she had allowed supervised visits maybe he might still be here. I wonder if she realizes she made the poor dear cry?

She hit him with a divorce at his worst time when he was getting into the lawsuit with his former manager Jonas. They make her out to be his widow but never mention that she was practically his ex-wife... The poor dear boy was so overwhelmed with it all the lawsuit with Jonas, being shorter on money cuz of all that plus working his butt off to help her pay for a full time maid & a fur coat (The fur coat was out of the generosity of his heart cuz he was happy she was gonna have the baby) & then she basically dumps him when he was at his lowest point. I can't figure out why she wouldn't have waited until things had gotten better for him & the lawsuit was over. If my hubby had bought me a fur coat I sure wouldn't have dumped him! She couldn't have hated being married to him that much. I'm sure the pills kept him from being his normal self & probably made him do strange things but not enough to cause someone to just break his heart when he was at his lowest point. If she was so desperate to get away from him, why not just have a trial seperation instead of a permanent one? Then maybe he might still be here... Marriage ain't easy but you work thru your problems & love conquers all. You don't bail out on a marriage when someone has an illness problem. I didn't when Mike got diabetes & he didn't when I got it too. Wasn't there of course so I don't know all the story of both sides. I'm sure she probably realizes too late her mistakes. So Kathy should've stayed & gotten the boy help. He needed it & those who would've given it to him like his family, Jack Scatman, Della & Mando etc did not know anything was wrong. Those who knew something was wrong stood by & did nothing. I bet they now regret they didn't get him the help he needed. All our baby wanted was the love of his wife. So sad...

Please don't think I am jumping on anyones case as I'm not, just noticing how he didn't get the help he needed. This is so sad...

I hated how both movies/shows left out his family & only showed negative views of him. Why didn't they show Isaac Ruiz (Mando), Freddie's Mom, Tony Orlando, Alan Bursky, Diane Rappaport, Nat Blake & others who knew him so well? Both were really sad tearjerkers & showed only negative stuff about him. In CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER they show him as ignoring the baby & we all know how he loved Pie.

When I watched the video of the E-TRUE HOLLWOOD STORY, I cried my eyes out during the sad parts about his death. When they showed his death, funeral & the casket etc, it really had me sobbing & breaking out the hankies even tho I never knew him.

I saw the casket & boom-- the waterworks started flowing. I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief.
It just killed me to see the casket going by...

When I saw the video I got of CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER, it was so sad at the end when he died. When he died in it I cried so hard, I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief like I did with the E-TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY. My hubby didn't want to watch it with me cuz he had seen it on tv in the 70's & said it was too disturbing & was too derogatory about him. I was sobbing so bad when he died in it my hubby came into the other room to see what was wrong & found me sobbing in my hankie. The really weird & strange thing was just as soon as the movie ended, the electricity in our house went out for quite awhile. Strange...

I went thru several hankies watching both of those & every time I watch them I end up crying my eyes out & going thru the hankies they are soooo sad.

Why can't someone make a more positive movie about him? Sure it may have to have the sad stuff like his death in it, but they could do it where it does it justice & portrays it not as a nut who killed himself but as a dear sweet boy who died way too soon...

tylersmistress2002 · 09-26-2002, 12:33 PM

They could have done AT LEAST another hour on his life and as for the movie......nothin like kickem when they are down......
They sure must be brave to print all that negative stuff.......AFTER he is gone and cant defend himself! NOT NICE PEOPLE!
Sorry, I had to vent.

I love that picture of Freddie ...altho it is not one of his famous smiles...he is still as handsome as ever. Truthfully, he reminds me a little bit of my b/f....just a little.... What a doll! We love ya Freddie

jamison__99 · 09-26-2002, 12:59 PM

speaking about kathy . . . you know, i get the sense that his was a whirlwind romance, and that they didn't really gat a chance to know each other before she was pregnant, and he married herwith great feeling in his heart for her, but i don't think it was shared. she didn't even want to know his family, which is telling on its own. i think they moved a bit too fast, and at the end, she just wanted out of a mistake in her life.

i am blessed by the fact that, even though i met my husband and married him in the course of six months, that this november we will be celebrating 15 years. so, with God's help, whirlwind can work, but not if *both* of you are committed in the same way.

jamison

Cheryl Harrell · 09-26-2002, 01:32 PM

On one of the site, might've been Croiters, there was an article on Freddie & Kathy called WHIRLWIND ROMANCE...

comedylover2002 · 09-26-2002, 01:51 PM

I would like to suggest that it would be a great idea if E ! or one of the other networks were to make a brand new True Hollywood Story, flesh it out, make it two hours, add more information and interviews, and this time really tell the story, in a more favorable light

Also, make a new Biography about Freddie, update it and have a little class in making it. Focus on all of the points we have stated here.
Oh, a note: what was mentioned about CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER: I had read in TV GUIDE about a year or two later after the movie was made (in an article about TV-Movies) that Freddie's mother, Maria, would not allow any family stuff used in the film.

I agree that that would have made his bio better. Agreed too about Kathy, and the people around him, they didn't know ? How could they not have known when Freddie was so depressed all thetime ? When he was crying out to them for help ?

SitcomsAreTheWay · 09-26-2002, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by jamison__99
speaking about kathy . . . you know, i get the sense that his was a whirlwind romance, and that they didn't really gat a chance to know each other before she was pregnant, and he married herwith great feeling in his heart for her, but i don't think it was shared. she didn't even want to know his family, which is telling on its own. i think they moved a bit too fast, and at the end, she just wanted out of a mistake in her life.

i am blessed by the fact that, even though i met my husband and married him in the course of six months, that this november we will be celebrating 15 years. so, with God's help, whirlwind can work, but not if *both* of you are committed in the same way.

jamison

That's great! Congrats!

Well, it works out for some and for others, it just doesn't. In Freddie's and Kathy's case, it probably just wasn't meant to be.

I honestly believe that they had gotten married for the wrong reason. Although I understand that they wanted to make it official for Jr's sake, when you marry for the wrong reasons the chances of the marriage lasting are odd.

We are already aware of Freddie's faults, but to excuse her as being the total victim (not directed toward you) is just plain bogus.

Her expression was practically blank for the majority of the E! True Story interview.

comedylover2002 · 09-26-2002, 07:59 PM

True, Kathy showed no emotion during the E TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY..Why ?

09-25-2002, 06:03 PM	#1
comedylover2002 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2002 Location: Santa Ana, California Posts: 50	E True Hollywood Story: Freddie/tv-movie I am interested to know and discuss what people's thoughts are about the E true Hollywood Story about Freddie. Personally, I thought they could have done another hour on his life and career and some of the information provided was in error as to who was speaking at his funeral service (the speech was credited to Jack Albertson, however, James Komack had given the speech that was used in the program)..Also, why no mention of his original secretary, Diane Rappaport, and of his album, and the TV movie made about him. What are people's thoughts on Can You hear The Laughter ? The Story of Freddie Prinze ? I liked it, Ira Angustain did a fine job as Prinze, and I think they should make a new one and update it. Take care, Freddie fans..

09-25-2002, 08:53 PM	#2
Pitooey Member Forum Star Join Date: Feb 15, 2001 Location: Rocking in Transylvania. Posts: 15,042	Hi - I personally didn't like Can you hear the Laughter because it was pure negativity about Freddie. I grew up seeing Freddie back then in the 70's and they really stretched his drug use throughout the whole movie giving him a bad rap. He was a positive entertainer back then and when he was on TV he bought the house down. I thought Ira did look like Freddie a bit though. If they ever made a nother movie on Freddie they should show his positive accomplishments. I don't see movies being done on Marilyn with drug use throughout the whole movies or James Dean and his obsession with driving. Freddie deserves a break. People make mistakes. His son deserves to hear the positive side of his father's life not the negative side all the time. His life was not all about drugs......... Thanks for hearing me out Comedy lover..
	__________________ Pitooey... AKA JennyLee - I love the Monkees all over again! *SAY NO TO DRUGS* Jesus saves...

09-25-2002, 09:28 PM	#5
Joy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2001 Location: In Mn lovin my DVD and the Prinze of comedy!!! Posts: 3,247	I DIDN'T LIKE THE MOVIE CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER EITHER BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEGATIVITY ABOUT FREDDIE THE ONLY POSITIVE THING MENTIONED WAS WHEN FREDDIE TOLD HIS FRIEND THAT HE BOUGHT HIS MOM A HOUSE. I THOUGFHT THE MOVIE MADE KATHY OUT TO BE THE VICTIM AND WHILE TO AN EXTENT SHE WAS,BECAUSE IT MUST HAVE BEEN DIFICULT TO WATCH SOMEONE YOU LOVE SUFFER AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT BUT SHE WAS TO BLAME FOR A LOT OF IT WITH HER SELFISH DEMANDS FOR A MAID AND SUCH. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN THE MOVIE WAS FIRST MADE MARIA AND JACK WERE UPSET AT THE PORTRAYAL OF FREDDIE(NOT DUE TO IRA)BUT THE WRITTING AND WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOVIE . IF I AM WRONG ON THIS PLEASE CORRECT ME. IN REGARDS TO THE E STORY IT WASINTERESTING AND I THOUGHT A LOT MORE ACURATE THAN THE MOVIE BUT KATHY TRIED TO ACT AS IF SHE DID ALL SHE COULD TO HELP HIM BUT IT WAS NO USE. SHE SAYS AT ONE POINT ON THERE THAT IF ASHE HAD BEEN AT THE COMSTOCK THAT NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPEND BUT SINCE HE CALLED HER AT LEAST TWICE TOI SAY WHAT HE WANTED TO DO WHY DIDN'T SHE GET HER BUNS OVER THERE TO STOP HIM THEN, IF SHE WAS SO SURE SHE COULD HAVE? JUST MY OPINONS HERE, NOT INTENDED TO START TROUBLE Attached Images

09-25-2002, 10:19 PM	#6
Rosalyz La amiguita de Fredo Occasional Poster Join Date: May 03, 2001 Location: San Francisco California Posts: 92	The E! Story I liked the E! true Hollywood story, but they should had taken more time for research; at least any from Freddie's relatives like Maria or his brothers (He has a brother and a sister from Karl's first marriage) or any of his cousings who can talk about his early years etc.. Instead of getting information from them, they give the position to speak for the family side to Kathy!!! In her comments, she says that if she would have knew about Freddie's decision that night, she would had stop him (Cause she was sooo accesible and helpful to him by that time!!!!) Go ahead girls!!!, Lets get the darts!!! Attached Images
	Last edited by Rosalyz; 09-25-2002 at 10:20 PM.

09-25-2002, 10:25 PM	#7
Joy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2001 Location: In Mn lovin my DVD and the Prinze of comedy!!! Posts: 3,247	i'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL HEARD THE EXPRESSION:IF LOOKS COULD KILL? WELL KATHY HONEY HERE ARE A FEW! Attached Images

09-25-2002, 10:33 PM	#8
comedylover2002 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2002 Location: Santa Ana, California Posts: 50	RE: E TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY Rosalyz, Agreed, they could have and should have done more research on Freddie. Where is his mother, Maria, today ? what about the former manager, David Jonas ? they didn't mention him either. And as you say, any of his relatives...and what about the many TV apprearances he made ? they seemed to keep showing the same images of Freddie and nothing new. Freddie was on The Tonight Show, The Mike Douglas Show, was there any mention of The Million Dollar Rip Off, the Tv movie he starred in ? At a scant hour, E told Freddie's story but it was seemingly incomplete for this viewer as well as for others I am sure. God Bless you, Freddie Prinze...You did a great thing, you made the world laugh, and entertained it with style, charisma, charm, and great humor. Thank you for that

09-26-2002, 02:01 AM	#9
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	His mom has diabetes real bad & is living in Puerto-Rico with relatives. And why didn't Kathy try to stop him? & Why did she try to keep him from seeing Jr when she knew that it would just destroy him to not be able to see his son anymore in addition to her divorcing him. I can understand her being afraid for the baby to be around the pills, but if she had allowed supervised visits maybe he might still be here. I wonder if she realizes she made the poor dear cry? She hit him with a divorce at his worst time when he was getting into the lawsuit with his former manager Jonas. They make her out to be his widow but never mention that she was practically his ex-wife... The poor dear boy was so overwhelmed with it all the lawsuit with Jonas, being shorter on money cuz of all that plus working his butt off to help her pay for a full time maid & a fur coat (The fur coat was out of the generosity of his heart cuz he was happy she was gonna have the baby) & then she basically dumps him when he was at his lowest point. I can't figure out why she wouldn't have waited until things had gotten better for him & the lawsuit was over. If my hubby had bought me a fur coat I sure wouldn't have dumped him! She couldn't have hated being married to him that much. I'm sure the pills kept him from being his normal self & probably made him do strange things but not enough to cause someone to just break his heart when he was at his lowest point. If she was so desperate to get away from him, why not just have a trial seperation instead of a permanent one? Then maybe he might still be here... Marriage ain't easy but you work thru your problems & love conquers all. You don't bail out on a marriage when someone has an illness problem. I didn't when Mike got diabetes & he didn't when I got it too. Wasn't there of course so I don't know all the story of both sides. I'm sure she probably realizes too late her mistakes. So Kathy should've stayed & gotten the boy help. He needed it & those who would've given it to him like his family, Jack Scatman, Della & Mando etc did not know anything was wrong. Those who knew something was wrong stood by & did nothing. I bet they now regret they didn't get him the help he needed. All our baby wanted was the love of his wife. So sad... Please don't think I am jumping on anyones case as I'm not, just noticing how he didn't get the help he needed. This is so sad... I hated how both movies/shows left out his family & only showed negative views of him. Why didn't they show Isaac Ruiz (Mando), Freddie's Mom, Tony Orlando, Alan Bursky, Diane Rappaport, Nat Blake & others who knew him so well? Both were really sad tearjerkers & showed only negative stuff about him. In CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER they show him as ignoring the baby & we all know how he loved Pie. When I watched the video of the E-TRUE HOLLWOOD STORY, I cried my eyes out during the sad parts about his death. When they showed his death, funeral & the casket etc, it really had me sobbing & breaking out the hankies even tho I never knew him. I saw the casket & boom-- the waterworks started flowing. I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief. It just killed me to see the casket going by... When I saw the video I got of CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER, it was so sad at the end when he died. When he died in it I cried so hard, I had to stop the tape & go get a hankerchief like I did with the E-TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY. My hubby didn't want to watch it with me cuz he had seen it on tv in the 70's & said it was too disturbing & was too derogatory about him. I was sobbing so bad when he died in it my hubby came into the other room to see what was wrong & found me sobbing in my hankie. The really weird & strange thing was just as soon as the movie ended, the electricity in our house went out for quite awhile. Strange... I went thru several hankies watching both of those & every time I watch them I end up crying my eyes out & going thru the hankies they are soooo sad. Why can't someone make a more positive movie about him? Sure it may have to have the sad stuff like his death in it, but they could do it where it does it justice & portrays it not as a nut who killed himself but as a dear sweet boy who died way too soon...
	__________________ RIP darling Mike. I love you forever... You are with Freddie Prinze & Jesus now. 1951-2009 "Make it your way, who can beat the Lord, the Son of God. Dear Lord, help me be strong where I am weak, if it be your will"-- The Late Freddie Prinze Sr Last edited by Cheryl Harrell; 09-26-2002 at 02:29 AM.

09-26-2002, 12:33 PM	#10
tylersmistress2002 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 21, 2001 Location: Providence, RI USA Posts: 493	They could have done AT LEAST another hour on his life and as for the movie......nothin like kickem when they are down...... They sure must be brave to print all that negative stuff.......AFTER he is gone and cant defend himself! NOT NICE PEOPLE! Sorry, I had to vent. I love that picture of Freddie ...altho it is not one of his famous smiles...he is still as handsome as ever. Truthfully, he reminds me a little bit of my b/f....just a little.... What a doll! We love ya Freddie
	__________________ so....what are you trying to say?

09-26-2002, 12:59 PM	#11
jamison__99 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Location: tulsa Posts: 37	speaking about kathy . . . you know, i get the sense that his was a whirlwind romance, and that they didn't really gat a chance to know each other before she was pregnant, and he married herwith great feeling in his heart for her, but i don't think it was shared. she didn't even want to know his family, which is telling on its own. i think they moved a bit too fast, and at the end, she just wanted out of a mistake in her life. i am blessed by the fact that, even though i met my husband and married him in the course of six months, that this november we will be celebrating 15 years. so, with God's help, whirlwind can work, but not if both of you are committed in the same way. jamison

09-26-2002, 01:32 PM	#12
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	On one of the site, might've been Croiters, there was an article on Freddie & Kathy called WHIRLWIND ROMANCE...

09-26-2002, 01:51 PM	#13
comedylover2002 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2002 Location: Santa Ana, California Posts: 50	Re: E Hollywood Story/CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER ? I would like to suggest that it would be a great idea if E ! or one of the other networks were to make a brand new True Hollywood Story, flesh it out, make it two hours, add more information and interviews, and this time really tell the story, in a more favorable light Also, make a new Biography about Freddie, update it and have a little class in making it. Focus on all of the points we have stated here. Oh, a note: what was mentioned about CAN YOU HEAR THE LAUGHTER: I had read in TV GUIDE about a year or two later after the movie was made (in an article about TV-Movies) that Freddie's mother, Maria, would not allow any family stuff used in the film. I agree that that would have made his bio better. Agreed too about Kathy, and the people around him, they didn't know ? How could they not have known when Freddie was so depressed all thetime ? When he was crying out to them for help ?

09-26-2002, 07:59 PM	#15
comedylover2002 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2002 Location: Santa Ana, California Posts: 50	Re: Kathy True, Kathy showed no emotion during the E TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY..Why ?