Is The Disease of Addiction, The Absolute Worst Disease???

[Caroline13]

I'm thinking Could Be, reading and hearing more about Matthew Perry and Ketamine, he had so much and gone so young...sounds like the drug but I've read too he had a lot of health issues...

I have addiction issues in my family and the FIRST and Most Important one must do is "Admit the Disease"....and get to the AA rooms...

My dad NEVER admitted the alcohol and had 2 beers a couple weeks before he died at 95... he had the life of Riley so to speak, but everyone in his family had a life of Misery. Today's modern wife, probably would not take what my mom's generation took....if they can help it....

I have no addictions and have questioned that over many years of foolish indulgences of alcohol and sweet stuff and I have not had a desire for a alcoholic drink in about 10 yrs or so. No Desire and sugar stuff I keep it to a minimum but lately treating myself to ice cream, but also keeping an awareness of what I'm putting in my body, as old as it is, I still want to keep as healthy as I can....NOT SICK.

Arthritis is my downfall and have dealt with it since 18 and I'm 85 and have had a lot of stuff going on thru my life, and at this point take low dose otc pain stuff every 6 hrs so I can continue to walk and do some life.

Your stories on this Disease...

[Babalu]

No, addiction is 100% curable.

Just stop.

[stevea]

Originally Posted by Babalu

No, addiction is 100% curable.

Just stop.

Agree--and if it's to be called a disease, I'd call it a disease of choice. I saw a mugshot of an old friend who's now out of state, and it's destroyed someone who was a normal-looking person. She now looks like some other-world, nearly 70-year-old monster.

[PaperClips]

As someone who has overcome it - addiction is a choice, not a disease IMO.

Cancer is a nightmare.

[Caroline13]

I've heard so much about addiction over my life, and yes we choose and yes I believe some/many get addicted to the bad choices. I've heard strong craving words used, etc. I've heard "genes" some of us are born with. What would those in the AA rooms call "it".

Back in my young days and living with a big drinker, none of the old folks called them alcoholics, but said they drank too much.

I took some oxycontin for hip surgery and another rehab issue with knee and I could never get addicted to that Sheet as the side effects are horrid...

And then there is pharma who continue to push and shovel this poison into our bodies and then they can push more stuff to try to undo what has been done....

[stevea]

Drugs like oxycontin and hydrocodone--another matter--not a choice there. This may have improved over the years, but these were common painkiller prescriptions--after surgery, etc.

User beware--highly addictive

[Caroline13]

Thinking about what "it's" called.

Addiction is defined as a disease by most medical associations, including the American Medical Association and the American Society of Addiction Medicine. Like diabetes, cancer and heart disease, addiction is caused by a combination of factors.

From Indiana Univ.

https://iuhealth.org/thrive/is-addic...ally-a-disease

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JULY 13, 2023
Is Addiction Really a Disease?
Is Addiction Really a Disease?
Is addiction really a disease or a matter of choice? Ask the mother who lost her 19-year-old son — the laughing family prankster who earned a full-ride college scholarship as a solid student and star second baseman — to drugs.

The moody, angry dropout who survived overdoses to get caught breaking into cars wasn't the boy she raised. What she knew, like the families and friends of the more than 15,000 Hoosiers who've died due to overdose since 1999, is that addiction's not a life anyone would choose.

Most medical professionals agree. The American Medical Association (AMA) classified alcoholism as a disease in 1956 and included addiction as a disease in 1987.

In 2011 the American Society of Addiction Medicine (ASAM) joined the AMA, defining addiction as a chronic brain disorder, not a behavior problem, or just the result of making bad choices.

Research and input from top addiction authorities, addiction medicine doctors, neuroscientists and experts from the National Institute on Drug Abuse agree in classifying addiction as a disease. Like other chronic diseases such as diabetes and heart disease, experts are still learning about how and why the disease develops. This blog post will help you understand addiction and how IU Health addiction treatment can help those struggling.

What is addiction?
Alcohol or drug addiction, also known as substance use disorder, is a chronic disease of the brain that can happen to anyone. Severe substance use disorder happens when substance use becomes an uncontrollable habit that hurts your day-to-day life, showing up as struggles at work or in school, conflicts with relationships, legal or money problems.


Thinking about the alcoholic father in my home, he worked 40 yrs at a blue collar job and rarely missed a day of work. He drank probably every day after work and not in the day times and was hjighly functioning. ????

And hardly ever heard the word pain from his mouth could be the hops in the beers kept him pain free...

Here is what is said about Hops

It has been attributed anti-inflammatory and antimicrobial properties, as well as diuretic, digestive, sedative, progestogenic properties, even being considered a cure for insomnia. For this wide range of health benefits, it was regarded as a life prolonging plant ... Dad's heart just kept on and he said he was so ready to check out....so maybe the hops kept him going.

[Babalu]

Originally Posted by Caroline13

Thinking about what "it's" called.

Addiction is defined as a disease by most medical associations, including the American Medical Association and the American Society of Addiction Medicine.

These are the same people that tell us that being male or female is a choice and 'fluid'. If you don't go along with it you are excommunicated from the medical field.

Why?

There's money in it.

It's a crock of ****.

[PaperClips]

I'll say it again, addiction is a CHOICE. I was addicted, the only way I could have stopped was if I accepted it was a choice I was making.

Cancer is a disease. No-one wants cancer and there is no easy way out of it. You can't stop cancer by going to rehab.

[Caroline13]

Originally Posted by PaperClips

I'll say it again, addiction is a CHOICE. I was addicted, the only way I could have stopped was if I accepted it was a choice I was making.

Cancer is a disease. No-one wants cancer and there is no easy way out of it. You can't stop cancer by going to rehab.

People don't want addiction either, and millions put crap in their mouths that can cause their cancers....this subject could go on forever, but I keep my mind open to that it's many names, that addiction stuff....

[PaperClips]

Yeah but cancer in many cases is just unpredictable. My mother lived the cleanest life ever and died at 64 from a weird form of cancer. My Dad was born with Type 1 diabetes and died early. It's different from addiction. Some diseases just happen and no-one can figure it out. Addiction, I knew exactly what I was doing to my body before I stopped. It's the same as smoking. People know what they are doing and they always have the choice to stop.

[HuntingtonM15]

Originally Posted by PaperClips

I'll say it again, addiction is a CHOICE. I was addicted, the only way I could have stopped was if I accepted it was a choice I was making.

Because you were able to overcome it, that makes it a choice for everyone? Ignorant.

[PhoenixAcres]

Please keep discussion apolitical and respectful. Thanks

[Caroline13]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAcres

Please keep discussion apolitical and respectful. Thanks

unnm, I just re-read thread and read nothing disrespectful or political here, but you seem to....hence your warning.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by HuntingtonM15

Because you were able to overcome it, that makes it a choice for everyone? Ignorant.

No your right,some things are hard to stop...... Like Smoking for one.......