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Hawkee · 07-29-2023, 04:43 AM

When you look at it from a different vision I think the 2000's were NBC's biggest decade for sitcoms and it seemed that NBC had developed a new formula to promote new sitcoms that proved to be a hit but I think NBC had plans to make the new sitcoms the new Seinfeld Frasier Friends or Cheers. But I think as the 2000's continued I think NBC was beginning the start of a new image of focusing less on sitcoms and adding primetime game shows like Deal Or No Deal and 1 Vs 100 and giving new sitcoms that were destined to become hits but were cancelled due to poor promotion. Kath And Kim is one of those sitcoms that showed promise but was cancelled due to low ratings and then they started the same thing again with Happy Family and The Tracy Morgan Show and although they were great shows NBC cancelled them as well. I think once Frasier and Friends ended NBC had given up hope for promising new sitcoms and focused on shows like Deal Or No Deal and America's Got Talent before returning to focusing on sitcoms again. If NBC were to develop great sitcoms today like they did in the 2000's I bet they would be number one in TV again

Alan Brady's Hair · 07-29-2023, 06:07 AM

I think NBC tried to emphasize sitcoms the same as they had for several decades. Their problem was that they programmed only for the 18-49 audience, because they could charge higher ad rates for them. They ignored the rest of the audience. Annual Nielsen rankings for their high-profile sitcoms:

The Office (2005-2013): 102, 67, 68, 77, 52, 41, 53, 77, 88
Parks & Recreation (2009-2015): 96, 108, 116, 134, 111, 115, 119
Community (2009-2014): 97, 138, 144, 133, 96
30 Rock (2006-2013): 102, 111, 69, 86, 106, 130, 99
The Good Place (2017-2020): 77, 77, 99, 92
Superstore (2015-2021): 66, 91, 102, 113, 87, 100
Brooklyn 99 (2013-2021): 98, 113, 118, 137, 161, 138, 105, ?

These shows got all kinds of awards, but no one ever watched them and eventually NBC just gave up and stopped scheduling sitcoms. The new Night Court is maybe a new beginning for them.

icecream · 07-29-2023, 10:32 AM

No way was this their biggest decade for sitcoms, at least after the original Frasier and Friends finished their runs. A bunch of critically acclaimed crap audiences largely rejected, while The Office has done well in syndication everything else like 30 Rock and Parks and Recreation were major failures. Turn of the 21st century brought a sharp decline in NBC sitcom quality, no more all time greats they had many of before like Family Ties, Cheers, og Night Court, Mad About You, Frasier, Seinfeld, Wings, I Dream of Jeannie, Hazel, The Facts of Life, pre-Sam Diff'rent Strokes, The Cosby Show, and 3rd Rock from the Sun.

Hawkee · 08-07-2023, 04:25 AM

I mainly think what NBC was aiming at was turning themselves into a variety channel and focus less on sitcoms which is why they started focusing on game shows like Deal Or No Deal because as soon as Deal Or No Deal debuted and became a hit NBC knew this was the start of their new variety format and then they repeated it when 1 Vs 100 debuted the year after Deal Or No Deal debuted in 2005. But while game shows proved to be their strongest link NBC knew that they had to get back to focusing on sitcoms again by giving celebrities their own sitcoms and by doing this made the celebrities big household names. Kristin Chenoweth was one of those celebrities and NBC gave her a chance to show her sitcom talents with the sitcom Kristin. And when Kristin made it's debut Kristin Chenoweth had already made her mark releasing her debut album Let Yourself Go in which the album promoted the Kristin sitcom on the hype sticker. But though promising Kristin was soon cancelled and Kristin Chenoweth went on to ABC's Pushing Daisies. Whitney Cummings also became a sitcom star with Whitney which was also another NBC sitcom that showed promise but also failed due to weak ratings and was soon cancelled. And when they saw this happen twice I think NBC was hoping for another hit like The Office was but I think it was My Name Is Earl that saved NBC's sitcoms and once My Name Is Earl became a monster hit NBC proved that they could have quality sitcoms in the 2000's. But NBC needs to have another sitcom like Friends Newsradio Cheers Seinfeld or Frasier to still survive in the sitcom industry

dee2364 · 08-07-2023, 05:38 PM

Absolutely not! The 1980s and 1990s was NBC at its peak with Must See TV. Remember, the shows that ran during this era were not only ratings juggernauts, they were major cultural phenomenons and water cooler conversations. The shows in the 2000s were popular, too, but not on the level of Cheers, The Cosby Show, Seinfeld or Friends. There were huge media blitzes when they ended. The appearance of The Cheers cast on The Tonight Show on the night of the finale was legendary, and every magazine had a tribute to Seinfeld when it ended.

07-29-2023, 04:43 AM	#1
Hawkee Michael Fassbender Fanatic Moderator Forum Star Join Date: Jan 17, 2016 Location: California Posts: 10,731	Was the 2000's NBC's biggest decade for sitcoms? When you look at it from a different vision I think the 2000's were NBC's biggest decade for sitcoms and it seemed that NBC had developed a new formula to promote new sitcoms that proved to be a hit but I think NBC had plans to make the new sitcoms the new Seinfeld Frasier Friends or Cheers. But I think as the 2000's continued I think NBC was beginning the start of a new image of focusing less on sitcoms and adding primetime game shows like Deal Or No Deal and 1 Vs 100 and giving new sitcoms that were destined to become hits but were cancelled due to poor promotion. Kath And Kim is one of those sitcoms that showed promise but was cancelled due to low ratings and then they started the same thing again with Happy Family and The Tracy Morgan Show and although they were great shows NBC cancelled them as well. I think once Frasier and Friends ended NBC had given up hope for promising new sitcoms and focused on shows like Deal Or No Deal and America's Got Talent before returning to focusing on sitcoms again. If NBC were to develop great sitcoms today like they did in the 2000's I bet they would be number one in TV again
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07-29-2023, 10:32 AM	#3
icecream Cat-tastic and Whiskerlicious Forum Celebrity Join Date: Sep 01, 2006 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 20,608	No way was this their biggest decade for sitcoms, at least after the original Frasier and Friends finished their runs. A bunch of critically acclaimed crap audiences largely rejected, while The Office has done well in syndication everything else like 30 Rock and Parks and Recreation were major failures. Turn of the 21st century brought a sharp decline in NBC sitcom quality, no more all time greats they had many of before like Family Ties, Cheers, og Night Court, Mad About You, Frasier, Seinfeld, Wings, I Dream of Jeannie, Hazel, The Facts of Life, pre-Sam Diff'rent Strokes, The Cosby Show, and 3rd Rock from the Sun.
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07-29-2023, 06:07 AM	#2
Alan Brady's Hair Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 30, 2014 Posts: 1,822	I think NBC tried to emphasize sitcoms the same as they had for several decades. Their problem was that they programmed only for the 18-49 audience, because they could charge higher ad rates for them. They ignored the rest of the audience. Annual Nielsen rankings for their high-profile sitcoms: The Office (2005-2013): 102, 67, 68, 77, 52, 41, 53, 77, 88 Parks & Recreation (2009-2015): 96, 108, 116, 134, 111, 115, 119 Community (2009-2014): 97, 138, 144, 133, 96 30 Rock (2006-2013): 102, 111, 69, 86, 106, 130, 99 The Good Place (2017-2020): 77, 77, 99, 92 Superstore (2015-2021): 66, 91, 102, 113, 87, 100 Brooklyn 99 (2013-2021): 98, 113, 118, 137, 161, 138, 105, ? These shows got all kinds of awards, but no one ever watched them and eventually NBC just gave up and stopped scheduling sitcoms. The new Night Court is maybe a new beginning for them.

08-07-2023, 04:25 AM	#4
Hawkee Michael Fassbender Fanatic Moderator Forum Star Join Date: Jan 17, 2016 Location: California Posts: 10,731	I mainly think what NBC was aiming at was turning themselves into a variety channel and focus less on sitcoms which is why they started focusing on game shows like Deal Or No Deal because as soon as Deal Or No Deal debuted and became a hit NBC knew this was the start of their new variety format and then they repeated it when 1 Vs 100 debuted the year after Deal Or No Deal debuted in 2005. But while game shows proved to be their strongest link NBC knew that they had to get back to focusing on sitcoms again by giving celebrities their own sitcoms and by doing this made the celebrities big household names. Kristin Chenoweth was one of those celebrities and NBC gave her a chance to show her sitcom talents with the sitcom Kristin. And when Kristin made it's debut Kristin Chenoweth had already made her mark releasing her debut album Let Yourself Go in which the album promoted the Kristin sitcom on the hype sticker. But though promising Kristin was soon cancelled and Kristin Chenoweth went on to ABC's Pushing Daisies. Whitney Cummings also became a sitcom star with Whitney which was also another NBC sitcom that showed promise but also failed due to weak ratings and was soon cancelled. And when they saw this happen twice I think NBC was hoping for another hit like The Office was but I think it was My Name Is Earl that saved NBC's sitcoms and once My Name Is Earl became a monster hit NBC proved that they could have quality sitcoms in the 2000's. But NBC needs to have another sitcom like Friends Newsradio Cheers Seinfeld or Frasier to still survive in the sitcom industry

08-07-2023, 05:38 PM	#5
dee2364 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 20, 2019 Posts: 643	Absolutely not! The 1980s and 1990s was NBC at its peak with Must See TV. Remember, the shows that ran during this era were not only ratings juggernauts, they were major cultural phenomenons and water cooler conversations. The shows in the 2000s were popular, too, but not on the level of Cheers, The Cosby Show, Seinfeld or Friends. There were huge media blitzes when they ended. The appearance of The Cheers cast on The Tonight Show on the night of the finale was legendary, and every magazine had a tribute to Seinfeld when it ended.