In 1870 would you rather have lived in Victorian England or the American old west? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Dude111 · 06-13-2023, 06:27 PM

If you were an average working person in the 1870s or 1880s,which do ya think would be a better place to call home?

I would say the American frontier... Back then it was a grand place even more so than now!!

Steve_uk · 06-14-2023, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude111

If you were an average working person in the 1870s or 1880s,which do ya think would be a better place to call home?

I would say the American frontier... Back then it was a grand place even more so than now!!

Can you elucidate on what this means to Americans Dude111, before I cast my vote?

JamesG · 06-14-2023, 04:28 PM

Definitely the Old West as I’d be a regular at the saloons and whorehouses. That actually is pretty much what I do now.

ThisLittlePiggy · 06-14-2023, 04:53 PM

I'd choose the American Frontier. I'd rather die than be made to wear a corset in Victorian England.

Steve_uk · 06-14-2023, 05:01 PM

Could we wind the date on a bit..https://youtu.be/U6-2eZwUZKk

Babalu · 06-14-2023, 05:07 PM

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Definitely the Old West as I’d be a regular at the saloons and whorehouses. That actually is pretty much what I do now.

Say hi to opus for me.

Dude111 · 06-15-2023, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

Definitely the Old West as I’d be a regular at the saloons and whorehouses. That actually is pretty much what I do now.

Excellent Jimmy

Janice Johnson · 06-15-2023, 06:59 AM

I seem the only one who would prefer to live in Victorian England. Victorian England was CIVILIZED, CHILLED, and RELAXED. The American Old West was barbaric with people regularly doing shootouts in the street!

JamesG · 06-15-2023, 10:20 AM

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The American Old West was barbaric with people regularly doing shootouts in the street!

Just like any black neighborhood in NYC.

Torgo · 06-15-2023, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Janice Johnson

I seem the only one who would prefer to live in Victorian England. Victorian England was CIVILIZED, CHILLED, and RELAXED. The American Old West was barbaric with people regularly doing shootouts in the street!

Since Dude specified: "if you were an average working person", then you wouldn't be much better off in Victorian England, you would be treated just above slavery, no clean water, limited access to food, etc...

JamesG · 06-15-2023, 01:43 PM

This thread reminds me of Westworld where they create a Western town w/ humanoids tailored to the guests’ likes and interests.

Steve_uk · 06-15-2023, 02:36 PM

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Since Dude specified: "if you were an average working person", then you wouldn't be much better off in Victorian England, you would be treated just above slavery, no clean water, limited access to food, etc...

Six of one and half a dozen of the other I would have thought. https://www.ranker.com/list/hygiene-...elissa-sartore

Caroline13 · 06-15-2023, 03:24 PM

With all it's faults, one would choose their country of their roots. Nothing to think of here.

Dude111 · 06-17-2023, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

This thread reminds me of Westworld where they create a Western town w/ humanoids tailored to the guests’ likes and interests.

I found this on the history base on CD Jimmy and thought it would be fun to bring it here

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Can you elucidate on what this means to Americans Dude111, before I cast my vote?

Hm I dunno Stevie,maybe just a diff place to live..

Yong Fang · 06-23-2023, 08:38 PM

Our perception of those times comes from movies we have seen which distorts the time period.

I have read that the West wasn’t so wild in the 1800’s, the towns were fairly orderly and not any more dangerous that communities “back east”. Crime and violent crime did happen but it wasn’t like in the movies with gunfights and showdowns. Actually prostitution did serve somewhat of a purpose since some of these communities just lacked women, it was mostly men working at mining, ranching or other things.

Probably Victorian England was depressing somewhat, especially in the cities. Technology hasn’t caught up with the large numbers of people living in cities like London. But again, our perception of then comes from movies like Oliver Twist and The Elephant Man. Was London and England that dark, depressing, polluted and unforgiving as these productions suggest? I have never been to England (meaning England and not the UK) and the towns to me today seem somewhat depressing, all the houses look alike, lots of conformity.

View Poll Results: Preferable place to live in late 19th century
Victorian England	2	22.22%
American Frontier	7	77.78%
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Dude111 Forum Legend Join Date: Nov 05, 2013 Posts: 35,922	If you were an average working person in the 1870s or 1880s,which do ya think would be a better place to call home? I would say the American frontier... Back then it was a grand place even more so than now!!

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JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,049	Definitely the Old West as I’d be a regular at the saloons and whorehouses. That actually is pretty much what I do now.

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ThisLittlePiggy Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Nov 02, 2013 Posts: 83,892	I'd choose the American Frontier. I'd rather die than be made to wear a corset in Victorian England.

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Steve_uk Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 29, 2012 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 5,803	Could we wind the date on a bit..https://youtu.be/U6-2eZwUZKk

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Janice Johnson Commercial Lover Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 30, 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 4,738	I seem the only one who would prefer to live in Victorian England. Victorian England was CIVILIZED, CHILLED, and RELAXED. The American Old West was barbaric with people regularly doing shootouts in the street!

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JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,049	This thread reminds me of Westworld where they create a Western town w/ humanoids tailored to the guests’ likes and interests.

06-23-2023, 08:38 PM	#15
Yong Fang Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 04, 2009 Location: Memphis Tennessee Posts: 3,073	Our perception of those times comes from movies we have seen which distorts the time period. I have read that the West wasn’t so wild in the 1800’s, the towns were fairly orderly and not any more dangerous that communities “back east”. Crime and violent crime did happen but it wasn’t like in the movies with gunfights and showdowns. Actually prostitution did serve somewhat of a purpose since some of these communities just lacked women, it was mostly men working at mining, ranching or other things. Probably Victorian England was depressing somewhat, especially in the cities. Technology hasn’t caught up with the large numbers of people living in cities like London. But again, our perception of then comes from movies like Oliver Twist and The Elephant Man. Was London and England that dark, depressing, polluted and unforgiving as these productions suggest? I have never been to England (meaning England and not the UK) and the towns to me today seem somewhat depressing, all the houses look alike, lots of conformity.