Phil Rapp wrote a Honeymooners script? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Frank Gannucci · 05-12-2023, 06:52 PM

I accessed this website for the UCSB Santa Barbara Library

https://www.library.ucsb.edu/sites/d...s/pamss202.pdf

In the collection it is said that he wrote a Honeymooners script. I spoke to people at the library via email and it is true according to them. When I asked the title of the episode, they didn’t know and they would find out.

Thirteen years ago TV Knowledge Fan of sitcomsonline.com wrote this

“ when Jackie Gleason's "CAVALCADE OF STARS" series on DuMont was planning its opening show of the 1951-'52 season, there was talk of "renting" the sketch from Phil Rapp as an occasional feature. Gleason vetoed that idea, claiming he could create a similar sketch involving a battling married couple without having to depend on Rapp {or pay him for the rights to use it}. That led to Jackie and his writers creating...."The Honeymooners".”

I wonder what sketch it was? Anybody have any ideas? Could it be the Honeymooners test run that Jackie did on the Colgate Conedy Hour? (Doubt it.)

Bill S. · 05-19-2023, 04:05 PM

This would be very unusual because Rapp sued Gleason over The Honeymooners being similar to The Bickersons.

Frank Gannucci · 05-19-2023, 05:06 PM

I even asked the library if they may have confused the Buckersons episode “The Honeymoon Is Over” with the Honeymooners.

05-12-2023, 06:52 PM	#1
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 16,072	Phil Rapp wrote a Honeymooners script? I accessed this website for the UCSB Santa Barbara Library https://www.library.ucsb.edu/sites/d...s/pamss202.pdf In the collection it is said that he wrote a Honeymooners script. I spoke to people at the library via email and it is true according to them. When I asked the title of the episode, they didn’t know and they would find out. Thirteen years ago TV Knowledge Fan of sitcomsonline.com wrote this “ when Jackie Gleason's "CAVALCADE OF STARS" series on DuMont was planning its opening show of the 1951-'52 season, there was talk of "renting" the sketch from Phil Rapp as an occasional feature. Gleason vetoed that idea, claiming he could create a similar sketch involving a battling married couple without having to depend on Rapp {or pay him for the rights to use it}. That led to Jackie and his writers creating...."The Honeymooners".” I wonder what sketch it was? Anybody have any ideas? Could it be the Honeymooners test run that Jackie did on the Colgate Conedy Hour? (Doubt it.)

05-19-2023, 04:05 PM	#2
Bill S. Member Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2003 Posts: 1,112	This would be very unusual because Rapp sued Gleason over The Honeymooners being similar to The Bickersons.

05-19-2023, 05:06 PM	#3
Frank Gannucci Member Forum Star Join Date: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 16,072	I even asked the library if they may have confused the Buckersons episode “The Honeymoon Is Over” with the Honeymooners.