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Jennifer12 · 07-30-2002, 11:04 AM

Let the buyer beware!!!!!
I purchased the first 17 episodes of Mama's Family way back in June from TVTapesGuy and never received anything. He doesn't reply to any messages. I should have known that he was a fraud when the address he uses had a different name then his. TV Tapes Guy and AndyGriffenFan may be the same person. Both are from the same town. Both have complaints against them for not supplying products they promised. There are resources out there that everyone should use before doing business. I know I will NOT be taken again. Be sure to post anyone who cheats.

Jennifer12 · 07-30-2002, 11:58 AM

Seems like Oldschoolfan and TVGuy have the same e-mail!!! could this be but yet another screen name. Who is being fooled?

Sam Malone · 07-30-2002, 12:00 PM

He's also known as OldSchoolFan. His e-mail is dwg4@planttel.net. He told me that he was cleaning his computer harddrive and didn't get a chance to reply. He also told me that he was using a Yahoo! address from the library, but when I looked to see the address, it was dwg4@planttel.net. He may have other aliases and e-mails, he posts on TAGS and Mayberry, RFD, Mama's Family boards, trying to "sell complete sets." BEWARE! He lives in Brinson, GA, so if you all know this person by other aliases, PLEASE do not hesitate to post!

Thanks Jennifer12 for posting about this person.

Jennifer12 · 07-30-2002, 12:30 PM

I'm going to the other sitcom sites to see if this person is advertising and posting a warning there. Maybe he'll just get off these boards and find another way to earn a living.

Jennifer12 · 07-30-2002, 12:55 PM

I'm going to the other sitcom sites to see if this person is advertising and posting a warning there. Maybe he'll just get off these boards and find another way to earn a living.

Lance Link · 07-31-2002, 07:30 AM

Since you sent him money,he committed an act of fraud. Go to your post office and file a complaint against him. He also committed wire fraud as well . Maybe that will put a stop to him/her . BTW, whats this person's name ?

Sam Malone · 08-02-2002, 03:11 PM

Hi. This person is

Wayne Guthrie
2814 Spring Creek Road
Brinson, GA *****

For all of you, I know a bit about Brinson, GA, since I only live about 50 miles away from Brinson. It is near Bainbridge, so this person might have rented a post office box, since he uses Bainbridge's post office. BEWARE!

Jennifer12 · 08-02-2002, 03:51 PM

You are exactly right. I searched Superpages.com and did a people search. Danny and Betty Guthrie live at that address and a phone number is listed. This information may be helpful at the post office. I had gotten a postal money order so they can trace it. Thanks so much for your interest in this. Restoring my faith in humanity.

Lance Link · 08-04-2002, 12:52 PM

People should also be aware of ashjudd1fan as she has ripped off many traders in other groups. Her name is Melissa and lives in New Jesrey.

Brian · 08-04-2002, 05:43 PM

What is the penalty for mail fraud?

Jennifer12 · 08-05-2002, 02:10 PM

The act of advertising a product and soliciting money or trade and not delivering the product, or delivering a bad product, constitutes fraud. If the transaction (such as mailing a check or mo) went through the US Postal Service then mail fraud (a federal offense) is committed. You can file a claim at www.fraud.org. and file a personal claim. The penalties vary, but restitutuion is almost always included. Internet providers can be notified and they can also file charges against customers who use their service as an instrument of fraud. So the charges can stack up quickly. Its a time consuming, lengthy, process.

MPKidder · 08-09-2002, 05:22 PM

Is this the (bad) guy? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1554602802 I'm not sure if this is the person (the scammer) you guys are talking about but if it is, he's scamming people on eBay too.

tdubel · 08-29-2002, 10:26 PM

After much haggling and email, I got 1 tape of Sanford, not 2 with the complete eps, I sort of second the rest of the board, tapes are not as advertised and buyer beware, sort of a shame this happens as it screws up everything. Oh well, bad experience, what can you say!

webuster · 09-15-2002, 10:20 AM

Everyone that gets ripped off, you can use swapshop.com to trade. They wait till they get both items being traded, then send them out, if one isn't received , the items are sent back. It costs about £2.00 a tape, so I'm searching for a better place, like £2 a trade.

So, it's kinda worth it, at least you get the tapes

07-30-2002, 11:04 AM	#1
Jennifer12 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 09, 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 53	Beware Let the buyer beware!!!!! I purchased the first 17 episodes of Mama's Family way back in June from TVTapesGuy and never received anything. He doesn't reply to any messages. I should have known that he was a fraud when the address he uses had a different name then his. TV Tapes Guy and AndyGriffenFan may be the same person. Both are from the same town. Both have complaints against them for not supplying products they promised. There are resources out there that everyone should use before doing business. I know I will NOT be taken again. Be sure to post anyone who cheats.

07-30-2002, 11:58 AM	#2
Jennifer12 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 09, 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 53	How Many Names Seems like Oldschoolfan and TVGuy have the same e-mail!!! could this be but yet another screen name. Who is being fooled?

07-30-2002, 12:00 PM	#3
Sam Malone Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 14, 2002 Location: Alabama, home of 9 electoral votes for President George W. Bush... TWICE! Posts: 355	He's also known as OldSchoolFan. His e-mail is dwg4@planttel.net. He told me that he was cleaning his computer harddrive and didn't get a chance to reply. He also told me that he was using a Yahoo! address from the library, but when I looked to see the address, it was dwg4@planttel.net. He may have other aliases and e-mails, he posts on TAGS and Mayberry, RFD, Mama's Family boards, trying to "sell complete sets." BEWARE! He lives in Brinson, GA, so if you all know this person by other aliases, PLEASE do not hesitate to post! Thanks Jennifer12 for posting about this person.
	__________________ :flag: Bush/Cheney '04 :flag:

07-30-2002, 12:30 PM	#4
Jennifer12 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 09, 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 53	other sites I'm going to the other sitcom sites to see if this person is advertising and posting a warning there. Maybe he'll just get off these boards and find another way to earn a living.

07-30-2002, 12:55 PM	#5
Jennifer12 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 09, 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 53	other sites I'm going to the other sitcom sites to see if this person is advertising and posting a warning there. Maybe he'll just get off these boards and find another way to earn a living.

07-31-2002, 07:30 AM	#6
Lance Link Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 27, 2001 Posts: 224	Since you sent him money,he committed an act of fraud. Go to your post office and file a complaint against him. He also committed wire fraud as well . Maybe that will put a stop to him/her . BTW, whats this person's name ?

08-02-2002, 03:11 PM	#7
Sam Malone Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 14, 2002 Location: Alabama, home of 9 electoral votes for President George W. Bush... TWICE! Posts: 355	Hi. This person is Wayne Guthrie 2814 Spring Creek Road Brinson, GA ***** For all of you, I know a bit about Brinson, GA, since I only live about 50 miles away from Brinson. It is near Bainbridge, so this person might have rented a post office box, since he uses Bainbridge's post office. BEWARE!

08-02-2002, 03:51 PM	#8
Jennifer12 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 09, 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 53	You are exactly right. I searched Superpages.com and did a people search. Danny and Betty Guthrie live at that address and a phone number is listed. This information may be helpful at the post office. I had gotten a postal money order so they can trace it. Thanks so much for your interest in this. Restoring my faith in humanity.

08-04-2002, 12:52 PM	#9
Lance Link Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 27, 2001 Posts: 224	People should also be aware of ashjudd1fan as she has ripped off many traders in other groups. Her name is Melissa and lives in New Jesrey.

08-04-2002, 05:43 PM	#10
Brian Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Jun 23, 2001 Posts: 20,451	What is the penalty for mail fraud?
	Last edited by Brian; 08-04-2002 at 05:50 PM.

08-05-2002, 02:10 PM	#11
Jennifer12 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 09, 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 53	The act of advertising a product and soliciting money or trade and not delivering the product, or delivering a bad product, constitutes fraud. If the transaction (such as mailing a check or mo) went through the US Postal Service then mail fraud (a federal offense) is committed. You can file a claim at www.fraud.org. and file a personal claim. The penalties vary, but restitutuion is almost always included. Internet providers can be notified and they can also file charges against customers who use their service as an instrument of fraud. So the charges can stack up quickly. Its a time consuming, lengthy, process.

08-09-2002, 05:22 PM	#12
MPKidder Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 05, 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 67	Is this the (bad) guy? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1554602802 I'm not sure if this is the person (the scammer) you guys are talking about but if it is, he's scamming people on eBay too.

08-29-2002, 10:26 PM	#13
tdubel Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 08, 2002 Posts: 677	UPDATE ON this Trader After much haggling and email, I got 1 tape of Sanford, not 2 with the complete eps, I sort of second the rest of the board, tapes are not as advertised and buyer beware, sort of a shame this happens as it screws up everything. Oh well, bad experience, what can you say!

09-15-2002, 10:20 AM	#14
webuster Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 26, 2002 Posts: 2,150	A solution Everyone that gets ripped off, you can use swapshop.com to trade. They wait till they get both items being traded, then send them out, if one isn't received , the items are sent back. It costs about £2.00 a tape, so I'm searching for a better place, like £2 a trade. So, it's kinda worth it, at least you get the tapes