What are the grisliest UM segments? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

thinwhiteduke74 · 04-18-2022, 06:09 AM

I'm thinking of Gus Hoffman, the Gainesville murders, Cindy James, Beverly McGowan -- segments in which we learn of the torture and murder of victims. More prominent in the early years.

Any others I'm forgetting?

freakbook · 04-18-2022, 07:21 AM

I'll say Diana Robertson/Mike Riemer

TheCars1986 · 04-18-2022, 08:06 AM

ATV Murders

dynoguy88 · 04-18-2022, 09:01 AM

All murders are horrible but you have to have extra layers of evil to torture your victim for an extended period of time before finally killing them.

Lisa Marie Kimmell, Gus Hoffman and Ashley Freeman/Lauria Bible all were tied up and tortured for multiple days. Nothing was quick. Their pain and terror went on and on before eventually being killed. Imagine being a loved one of these victims and trying desperately to keep that image out of your head.

A major case that was technically quicker but still incredibly grisly; Joann, Michelle and Kristi Rogers. All three sexually assaulted (I'm assuming the others were forced to watch in horror) before being weighted down with a cinder block and thrown in the bay still alive. There are no words to accurately describe this kind of evil.

thinwhiteduke74 · 04-18-2022, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dynoguy88

All murders are horrible but you have to have extra layers of evil to torture your victim for an extended period of time before finally killing them.

No doubt.

Do we have an idea what the biker gang did to Hoffman in that garage?

dynoguy88 · 04-18-2022, 12:03 PM

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Do we have an idea what the biker gang did to Hoffman in that garage?

According to the woman who met with Rose Hoffman, Gus was taken to Michael Stevenson's house, and the motorcycle gang members tied him up, tortured, sodomized and kicked him over the course of multiple days (how many days exactly, we don't know) until he was dead and then they dismembered him.

It turns out, the woman who spoke with Rose was married to one of the killers.

Heraclius · 04-18-2022, 01:34 PM

David Tyll and Brian Ognjan

TheCars1986 · 04-18-2022, 02:25 PM

The Boston Rapist segment was a tough one to watch.

thinwhiteduke74 · 04-18-2022, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Heraclius

David Tyll and Brian Ognjan

I should've put this first tbh.

freakbook · 04-18-2022, 04:27 PM

I'll say Chain Weiss as well. His murder was particularly grisly

Jon · 04-18-2022, 06:27 PM

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The Boston Rapist segment was a tough one to watch.

Yeah it is. That one and the The Brazos River Attackers segment

Janel "Jaycee" Miller · 04-18-2022, 08:48 PM

What about the one where they showed the actual autopsy photo? The case of the old man (think it was Jasper Watkins -- Harpers Ferry Remains -- who was killed and stuffed in the trunk?

Janel "Jaycee" Miller · 04-18-2022, 08:51 PM

Also, if we believe what some people with not-so-great reputations, then I would also add Jeremy Bright and Amy Billig.

GyorkLady · 04-18-2022, 10:48 PM

Richard Church and Edward Harold Bell

Hambone2421 · 04-21-2022, 03:16 PM

The first two that came to mind were Gus Hoffman and the ATV Murders.

Agree with dynoguy on the Oba Chandler murders. I've always wondered just how much each of the girls were forced to see before being tied to a cinder block and dumped into the water.

04-18-2022, 06:09 AM	#1
thinwhiteduke74 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 16, 2011 Posts: 387	What are the grisliest UM segments? I'm thinking of Gus Hoffman, the Gainesville murders, Cindy James, Beverly McGowan -- segments in which we learn of the torture and murder of victims. More prominent in the early years. Any others I'm forgetting?

04-18-2022, 10:48 PM	#14
GyorkLady Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 12, 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 33	Richard Church and Edward Harold Bell
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04-18-2022, 07:21 AM	#2
freakbook Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2017 Posts: 2,256	I'll say Diana Robertson/Mike Riemer

04-18-2022, 08:06 AM	#3
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	ATV Murders

04-18-2022, 09:01 AM	#4
dynoguy88 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,672	All murders are horrible but you have to have extra layers of evil to torture your victim for an extended period of time before finally killing them. Lisa Marie Kimmell, Gus Hoffman and Ashley Freeman/Lauria Bible all were tied up and tortured for multiple days. Nothing was quick. Their pain and terror went on and on before eventually being killed. Imagine being a loved one of these victims and trying desperately to keep that image out of your head. A major case that was technically quicker but still incredibly grisly; Joann, Michelle and Kristi Rogers. All three sexually assaulted (I'm assuming the others were forced to watch in horror) before being weighted down with a cinder block and thrown in the bay still alive. There are no words to accurately describe this kind of evil.

04-18-2022, 01:34 PM	#7
Heraclius Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 31, 2021 Posts: 14	David Tyll and Brian Ognjan

04-18-2022, 02:25 PM	#8
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	The Boston Rapist segment was a tough one to watch.

04-18-2022, 04:27 PM	#10
freakbook Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2017 Posts: 2,256	I'll say Chain Weiss as well. His murder was particularly grisly

04-18-2022, 08:48 PM	#12
Janel "Jaycee" Miller Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 19, 2010 Location: South Jersey Posts: 408	What about the one where they showed the actual autopsy photo? The case of the old man (think it was Jasper Watkins -- Harpers Ferry Remains -- who was killed and stuffed in the trunk?

04-18-2022, 08:51 PM	#13
Janel "Jaycee" Miller Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 19, 2010 Location: South Jersey Posts: 408	Also, if we believe what some people with not-so-great reputations, then I would also add Jeremy Bright and Amy Billig.

04-21-2022, 03:16 PM	#15
Hambone2421 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 08, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,066	The first two that came to mind were Gus Hoffman and the ATV Murders. Agree with dynoguy on the Oba Chandler murders. I've always wondered just how much each of the girls were forced to see before being tied to a cinder block and dumped into the water.