Characters who went from weak to stronger - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

ThomasE · 07-27-2002, 06:50 PM

Can you guys name any.

Rose Nylund-Golden Girls/Golden Palace(She was stronger on Golden Palace)
Ronald Johnson-A Different World
Jane Mancini-Melrose Place

Marvo301 · 07-27-2002, 07:45 PM

Max Klinger - M*A*S*H
Father Mulcahy - M*A*S*H
Arthur Fonzarelli - Happy Days
Cliff Claven - Cheers
Dwayne Wayne - A Different World
Whitley Gilbert - A Different World

TJL · 07-27-2002, 10:17 PM

Latka Gravis - "Taxi."

Christopher · 07-28-2002, 12:00 AM

Rachel on Friends (I think she was weak in season 1)

~LadyJess~ · 07-31-2002, 12:47 PM

Rose Nylund (I've never seen the Golden Palace but from what I've heard she really became a stronger character)

Rachel Green (at the start of the show she was a spoiled little girl making it out on her own for the first time and now she works at Ralph Lauren and has a baby to take care of)

Brian Damage · 07-31-2002, 03:48 PM

1. Woody Boyd-Cheers
2. Latka Gravas-Taxi
3. Chandler Bing-Friends
4. Roz Doyle-Frasier
5. J.J. Evans-Good Times

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ · 08-04-2002, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marvo301
Max Klinger - M*A*S*H
Father Mulcahy - M*A*S*H
Arthur Fonzarelli - Happy Days
Cliff Claven - Cheers
Dwayne Wayne - A Different World
Whitley Gilbert - A Different World

I disagree with the Fonzie. I always felt he was always tougher and cooler in the beginning with his mysterious mystique. Then, when Richie left he got a steady girlfriend, tried adopting a kid...he turned into a softie.

DetectiveGriffin · 08-04-2002, 05:54 PM

I dunno, when happy days was young, fonzie was cool, but he was also just a kid, too, and screwed up a lot like the other kids did. When the show found out what audience response was, thats kind of when he seemed to become a comic book superhero. Which is ok by me, because i think happy days was on the air so long, because it changed just enough to stay fresh: earlier eps were a bit more on the dramatic side, then later they became straight out hell-arious.
But the fonz was always cool, he just became a cool grownup.

I cant think of a character who became stronger, since so many are constantly being developed and refined, but heres one that ticked me off --- Chris Cagney, Cagney & Lacey.

When that first gal played her, meg whatever, she was a tough interesting charcter, then they changed her over to a weak girly girl who always seemed to make poor decisions and had one problem after another. That was a bummer.

LucyFan · 08-06-2002, 02:33 AM

I think these characters went from weak to strong:

The Fonz- "Happy Days"
Steve Urkel- "Family Matters"
Chrissy Snow- "Three's Company" (she became more dumb as each season passed but it made the show a lot funnier)

Notorious · 08-06-2002, 06:00 AM

Willow on Buffy, The Vampire Slayer
[So very week in the first season! She was always the nerdy girl in distress, then she became a cool, lesbian witch]

Phoebe on Charmed
[She was treated like she was nothing in the first season, then got better, especially when Prue died. Then, she had a fall when she married the evil guy]

Rachel on Friends
[She has gotten better and stopped living off daddy's money]

Victoria on Dark Shadows
[It seemed like she was just the dumb brown in the beginning, and she developed better as a character]

Olive on Veronica's Closet
[She didn't seem important at all in the first season, though she was in the beginning credits (same with Cordelia, BuffyTVS, 1st season) but she became such a big part of the show]

Lucy on I Love Lucy
[She was always being pushed around by Ricky, like she was a little child, and she was gonna get severly punished. I liked it when she pushed him around for a change!]

tvje · 08-07-2002, 07:47 PM

Sometimes a character becomes stronger because he or she was originally a supporting charcter then became a lead character. Here a couple of examples.

Fraser Crane - Frasier really became stronger from "Cheers" to "Frasier"

Rose Nyland - same as above.

Dwayne Wayne - "A Different World" actully all the characters on that show became stronger after Lisa Bonet left the show, it became more of a esumble show after she left, but the Dwayne character in particular became stronger.

07-27-2002, 06:50 PM	#1
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Star Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	Characters who went from weak to stronger Can you guys name any. Rose Nylund-Golden Girls/Golden Palace(She was stronger on Golden Palace) Ronald Johnson-A Different World Jane Mancini-Melrose Place

07-28-2002, 12:00 AM	#4
Christopher The OG Core Four Forum Star Join Date: Apr 15, 2001 Posts: 14,833	Re: Characters who went from weak to stronger. Rachel on Friends (I think she was weak in season 1)

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Notorious Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 13, 2001 Location: Sunnydale, CA --- and I actually registered at sitcomsonline July 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,494	Willow on Buffy, The Vampire Slayer [So very week in the first season! She was always the nerdy girl in distress, then she became a cool, lesbian witch] Phoebe on Charmed [She was treated like she was nothing in the first season, then got better, especially when Prue died. Then, she had a fall when she married the evil guy] Rachel on Friends [She has gotten better and stopped living off daddy's money] Victoria on Dark Shadows [It seemed like she was just the dumb brown in the beginning, and she developed better as a character] Olive on Veronica's Closet [She didn't seem important at all in the first season, though she was in the beginning credits (same with Cordelia, BuffyTVS, 1st season) but she became such a big part of the show] Lucy on I Love Lucy [She was always being pushed around by Ricky, like she was a little child, and she was gonna get severly punished. I liked it when she pushed him around for a change!]
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Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,465	Max Klinger - MASH Father Mulcahy - MASH Arthur Fonzarelli - Happy Days Cliff Claven - Cheers Dwayne Wayne - A Different World Whitley Gilbert - A Different World

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DetectiveGriffin Sankontessou! Senior Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2001 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 1,289	I dunno, when happy days was young, fonzie was cool, but he was also just a kid, too, and screwed up a lot like the other kids did. When the show found out what audience response was, thats kind of when he seemed to become a comic book superhero. Which is ok by me, because i think happy days was on the air so long, because it changed just enough to stay fresh: earlier eps were a bit more on the dramatic side, then later they became straight out hell-arious. But the fonz was always cool, he just became a cool grownup. I cant think of a character who became stronger, since so many are constantly being developed and refined, but heres one that ticked me off --- Chris Cagney, Cagney & Lacey. When that first gal played her, meg whatever, she was a tough interesting charcter, then they changed her over to a weak girly girl who always seemed to make poor decisions and had one problem after another. That was a bummer.

08-06-2002, 02:33 AM	#9
LucyFan Still Loving Lucy! Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 23, 2001 Location: In the Wonderful World of Lucy! Posts: 8,198	I think these characters went from weak to strong: The Fonz- "Happy Days" Steve Urkel- "Family Matters" Chrissy Snow- "Three's Company" (she became more dumb as each season passed but it made the show a lot funnier)

08-07-2002, 07:47 PM	#11
tvje Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 26, 2002 Posts: 1,402	Sometimes a character becomes stronger because he or she was originally a supporting charcter then became a lead character. Here a couple of examples. Fraser Crane - Frasier really became stronger from "Cheers" to "Frasier" Rose Nyland - same as above. Dwayne Wayne - "A Different World" actully all the characters on that show became stronger after Lisa Bonet left the show, it became more of a esumble show after she left, but the Dwayne character in particular became stronger.
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