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lukes42 · 07-16-2002, 11:40 AM

I just checked out TV Guide's 50 Worst Shows of all Time, and the New Leave It To Beaver/Still the Beaver made the list as the 33rd worst show.

I am a big fan of the original show, so I just cannot fathom the fact that the 80's version was terrible. I have never seen an episode from the New Leave It To Beaver, so is what TV Guide says true?

What are your thoughts about the New Leave It To Beaver being named the 33rd worst show of all time?

Mijada · 11-23-2002, 09:46 PM

I remember watching the new LITB. I liked it. There was nothing wrong with it at all.

DarleneIllyria · 11-24-2002, 02:33 AM

Remember I haven't seen the show, but it might've been voted in the worst list because it wasn't just June, Wally, Beaver and the gang. You had a bunch of changes in the show. The main two are the absence of Hugh Beaumont and the fact that Wally and Beaver are older now. I'm not calling them old, I'm just saying that people enjoyed seeing Wally and Beaver growing up and liked them because they were so likeable. Maybe Beaver and Wally's kids didn't have that same likeability.

Brian · 12-22-2002, 12:42 AM

What's not to like about this show? It should be the 1,978th worst show.

jehobden · 01-14-2003, 03:32 AM

I liked this show when it was on The Disney Channel as Still the Beaver. When it became TNLITB on TBS, the kids became fresh-mouthed, IMO, and Eddie Haskell became a real jerk who was ruining not only his own life but those of his family as well.

BundyBoy10 · 04-28-2003, 09:18 PM

Boo to TV GUIDE! From what I heard its a pretty good show with over 100 episodes.

ponerse · 06-29-2003, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by jehobden
...IMO, and Eddie Haskell became a real jerk...

LOL, isn't that what the character of Eddie Haskell was supposed to do?

junecleaver · 06-30-2003, 12:39 AM

i have never seen it either but it can't be as bad as most of the crud they have on tv now

Christopher Powers · 09-01-2003, 12:23 PM

I absolutely loved the new Leave it to Beaver show...it was fantastic and updated. Of course it was fluff like most of the writing of sitcoms during the 80s but it was a great show.

Just out of wondering, is that list of the 50 worst shows online? Do you have a URL?

I'd hope at least the Brady's reality hour done in the 80s would be ahead of the New Leave it to Beaver show...

flinstoned · 10-29-2003, 05:31 PM

This show was not bad at all. Nearly half, if not more, of the shows on prime time today are worse. The same sex jokes over and over, ...

EmpressDR · 12-25-2006, 01:43 AM

Just because it's in TV Guide doesn't make it so. Meaning, they employ lots of critics who are either stodgy or don't know what they're talking about. I loved the show. It is good.

TV Guide critics:
Judith Christ despised all of Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds films.
The late Cleveland Amory, while a good guy about animal rights, was very wrong in his review for "Queen For a Day."

In "The Best Cat Ever" ( last in the trilogy about his cat Polar Bear ) he reprinted a paragraph from a piece he wrote in 1973 or 1974, when the show was in its last year. He describes a woman who told the host that she lost everything on New Year's.
"Happy New Year!" shouts the host is how Amory put it. But I saw the episode, and host Jack Baily didn't shout it like that --he shook his head, commiserating, and groaned "Happy New Year," with a tone of bitter irony. A HUGE difference in attitude. Baily was very kind, and I liked the show, which was given a bad rap --and think, Extreme Makeover is a new version of Queen For a Day, both the original and Home Edition. What's wrong with people getting something they need? Except that most people can't get it, too. It's a show to watch other people get these nice things, and heartwarming, but if you feel that you need things too, though are not going to impress the producers, it can be frustrating.

Coronaboy · 03-22-2007, 04:20 PM

I pay no attention to the critics anymore, mostly because a lot of them don't give artists/shows/films a real chance. The show was great, it was a shame it didn't go on longer, there would've been some great story lines as the kids grew up.

comedyfreak · 03-26-2007, 01:56 AM

I liked The New Leave It To Beaver and seeing most of the gang together again. I watched it every time it was on TBS, it may be TVGuide's 33 worst show but not mine. It lasted 5 seasons so it couldn't have been that bad. I don't like the critics anyway and ignore what they have to say. The only thing I was disappointed in, is they didn't show Beaver's old friends who should have been popping by every now and then. The only had Lumpy and Eddie .

Zoneboy · 03-26-2007, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by comedyfreak

The only thing I was disappointed in, is they didn't show Beaver's old friends who should have been popping by every now and then. The only had Lumpy and Eddie .

I don't know about the rest of them but Stanley Fafara (Whitey) was in and out of rehab for several years due to drug addiction and Stephen Talbot turned down all offers to reprise his role as Gilbert Bates.

snl 70s show fan · 04-04-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoneboy

I don't know about the rest of them but Stanley Fafara (Whitey) was in and out of rehab for several years due to drug addiction and Stephen Talbot turned down all offers to reprise his role as Gilbert Bates.

richard correll appered at least once as richard jeri weil appered as judy on one ep. and rusty stevens came back as larry for the final ep

07-16-2002, 11:40 AM	#1
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09-01-2003, 12:23 PM	#9
Christopher Powers Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 31, 2003 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri Posts: 22	Loved the New Leave it to Beaver show!! I absolutely loved the new Leave it to Beaver show...it was fantastic and updated. Of course it was fluff like most of the writing of sitcoms during the 80s but it was a great show. Just out of wondering, is that list of the 50 worst shows online? Do you have a URL? I'd hope at least the Brady's reality hour done in the 80s would be ahead of the New Leave it to Beaver show...
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12-25-2006, 01:43 AM	#11
EmpressDR Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 22, 2004 Location: California Posts: 279	Bad critics don't know what they write about. Just because it's in TV Guide doesn't make it so. Meaning, they employ lots of critics who are either stodgy or don't know what they're talking about. I loved the show. It is good. TV Guide critics: Judith Christ despised all of Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds films. The late Cleveland Amory, while a good guy about animal rights, was very wrong in his review for "Queen For a Day." In "The Best Cat Ever" ( last in the trilogy about his cat Polar Bear ) he reprinted a paragraph from a piece he wrote in 1973 or 1974, when the show was in its last year. He describes a woman who told the host that she lost everything on New Year's. "Happy New Year!" shouts the host is how Amory put it. But I saw the episode, and host Jack Baily didn't shout it like that --he shook his head, commiserating, and groaned "Happy New Year," with a tone of bitter irony. A HUGE difference in attitude. Baily was very kind, and I liked the show, which was given a bad rap --and think, Extreme Makeover is a new version of Queen For a Day, both the original and Home Edition. What's wrong with people getting something they need? Except that most people can't get it, too. It's a show to watch other people get these nice things, and heartwarming, but if you feel that you need things too, though are not going to impress the producers, it can be frustrating.

03-26-2007, 01:56 AM	#13
comedyfreak Cheers! Forum Fanatic Join Date: Dec 14, 2005 Location: Sunny California Posts: 11,058	I liked The New Leave It To Beaver and seeing most of the gang together again. I watched it every time it was on TBS, it may be TVGuide's 33 worst show but not mine. It lasted 5 seasons so it couldn't have been that bad. I don't like the critics anyway and ignore what they have to say. The only thing I was disappointed in, is they didn't show Beaver's old friends who should have been popping by every now and then. The only had Lumpy and Eddie .
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11-23-2002, 09:46 PM	#2
Mijada Spencers mom Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 02, 2001 Location: eastern US Posts: 4,093	I remember watching the new LITB. I liked it. There was nothing wrong with it at all.

11-24-2002, 02:33 AM	#3
DarleneIllyria Gone Forum Star Join Date: Oct 15, 2000 Posts: 19,086	Remember I haven't seen the show, but it might've been voted in the worst list because it wasn't just June, Wally, Beaver and the gang. You had a bunch of changes in the show. The main two are the absence of Hugh Beaumont and the fact that Wally and Beaver are older now. I'm not calling them old, I'm just saying that people enjoyed seeing Wally and Beaver growing up and liked them because they were so likeable. Maybe Beaver and Wally's kids didn't have that same likeability.

12-22-2002, 12:42 AM	#4
Brian Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Jun 23, 2001 Posts: 20,451	What's not to like about this show? It should be the 1,978th worst show.

01-14-2003, 03:32 AM	#5
jehobden Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 06, 2002 Location: DFW Area, TX Posts: 2,004	I liked this show when it was on The Disney Channel as Still the Beaver. When it became TNLITB on TBS, the kids became fresh-mouthed, IMO, and Eddie Haskell became a real jerk who was ruining not only his own life but those of his family as well.

04-28-2003, 09:18 PM	#6
BundyBoy10 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2002 Posts: 311	Boo to TV GUIDE! From what I heard its a pretty good show with over 100 episodes.

06-30-2003, 12:39 AM	#8
junecleaver Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 28, 2003 Location: i'm a southerner! :D Posts: 1,298	i have never seen it either but it can't be as bad as most of the crud they have on tv now

10-29-2003, 05:31 PM	#10
flinstoned Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 07, 2003 Posts: 624	This show was not bad at all. Nearly half, if not more, of the shows on prime time today are worse. The same sex jokes over and over, ...

03-22-2007, 04:20 PM	#12
Coronaboy Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 06, 2005 Posts: 11	I pay no attention to the critics anymore, mostly because a lot of them don't give artists/shows/films a real chance. The show was great, it was a shame it didn't go on longer, there would've been some great story lines as the kids grew up.