Movie “Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore”, Alfred Lutter - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Yong Fang · 06-16-2021, 07:22 PM

I have seen the film before but I saw “Alice Doesn’t Live Anymore” last night. It is a good film actually. It is about a woman who has a dream of being a singer (honestly, I don’t think she was that great of a singer, sorry Ellen Burstyn), but ended up being a lower middle class housewife to an emotionally abusive truck driver and (what my post is about), the most annoying kid ever.

This Tommy was played by a one Alfred Lutter, and like I mentioned, his character of Tommy was to me well acted, but he played absolutely the most annoying, smartass kid ever who basically would get on your list nerve. I am watching the film and wanted to belt this kid. I think that was the point, this woman is going through a lot of stress, losing a husband, having no money, living in poverty, and Tommy just added to her anxiety. You could tell that this kid will probably not end up well in life. Just too much of a jerk.

The TV Alice son Tommy was the opposite, very intelligent, athletic (Lutter couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time), respectful. I have read that Lutter was supposed to be on the TV show but was passed over supposedly because of his attitude, so maybe his Tommy wasn’t much different. But the kid grew up to be very successful.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lutter

DJM77 · 06-16-2021, 08:47 PM

Alfred Lutter also played Tommy in the pilot episode of Alice.

howilu · 06-17-2021, 09:38 AM

He would later go on to play Ogilvie in The Bad News Bears movies.

Rich3 · 02-11-2023, 12:44 AM

He was also in an episode of Family playing an annoying neighbor kid. They explained him as being an only child or something like that.
Personally I always liked his character in the original film.

FredScuttle · 02-12-2023, 08:53 PM

There was a funny line in the pilot where Tommy (Alfred) said "now I'll never get to meet Tatum O'Neal". Alfred and Tatum were both in Bad News Bears earlier that year.

TheLittleFaerie · 02-13-2023, 03:48 AM

Alfred Luther as Tommy sorta reminded me of a boy version of Heather Hartman from Mary HartmanX2. It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but he was obviously a victim of abuse also by Don, then being drug around while other men were abusive to him and his mother, its no wonder he was how he was, so I felt sorry for him

I think the Tommy from the TV series had sorta a smart-ass edge but in a good way lol

Will Dockery · 04-12-2023, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Yong Fang

I have seen the film before but I saw “Alice Doesn’t Live Anymore” last night. It is a good film actually. It is about a woman who has a dream of being a singer (honestly, I don’t think she was that great of a singer, sorry Ellen Burstyn), but ended up being a lower middle class housewife to an emotionally abusive truck driver and (what my post is about), the most annoying kid ever.

This Tommy was played by a one Alfred Lutter, and like I mentioned, his character of Tommy was to me well acted, but he played absolutely the most annoying, smartass kid ever who basically would get on your list nerve. I am watching the film and wanted to belt this kid. I think that was the point, this woman is going through a lot of stress, losing a husband, having no money, living in poverty, and Tommy just added to her anxiety. You could tell that this kid will probably not end up well in life. Just too much of a jerk.

The TV Alice son Tommy was the opposite, very intelligent, athletic (Lutter couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time), respectful. I have read that Lutter was supposed to be on the TV show but was passed over supposedly because of his attitude, so maybe his Tommy wasn’t much different. But the kid grew up to be very successful.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lutter

I haven't seen "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore" in many years, and the main thing I remember about Tommy is he was a Mott The Hoople fan, and that the band's "All The Way From Memphis" was in the opening credits for the film.

Torgo · 04-12-2023, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by howilu

He would later go on to play Ogilvie in The Bad News Bears movies.

He probably doesn't regret not being in Bad News Bears Go To Japan.

Will Dockery · 04-12-2023, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLittleFaerie

Alfred Luther as Tommy sorta reminded me of a boy version of Heather Hartman from Mary HartmanX2. It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but he was obviously a victim of abuse also by Don, then being drug around while other men were abusive to him and his mother, its no wonder he was how he was, so I felt sorry for him

I think the Tommy from the TV series had sorta a smart-ass edge but in a good way lol

Isn't Tommy from the TV series Alice related to one of the girls in "Facts Of Life"?

Been decades since I thought of that trivia, but is that correct?

DJM77 · 04-12-2023, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Will Dockery

Isn't Tommy from the TV series Alice related to one of the girls in "Facts Of Life"?

Been decades since I thought of that trivia, but is that correct?

Yes. Philip McKeon was Nancy McKeon's brother.

Rich3 · 04-21-2023, 08:52 PM

Mott the Hoople. T Rex. It's like a cavalcade of glam rock.

It's also got at least 3 of the actors from Taxi Driver. Watching it now.

FredScuttle · 06-03-2023, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM77

Yes. Philip McKeon was Nancy McKeon's brother.

she also appeared on 2 episodes of Alice, "Who Ordered the Hot Turkey" and "Alice's Halloween Surprise"

James28 · 01-14-2025, 01:26 AM

Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore aired on TCM tonight as part of a tribute to Kris Kristofferson. And if you think my feelings on Linda Lavin being outlived by Polly Holliday can't get any more hardened, the closed-captions for Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore have not been changed to sentence-case. Any time I check the closed-captioning for a Warner Bros. film (always having the volume on my TV or laptop off while doing so), I always get disappointed about this. I wish such a conversion had happened before either Ms. Lavin or Mr. Kristofferson died. (BTW, all of the films airing as part of that tribute to Mr. Kristofferson are part of the Warner Bros. library.) ;(

06-16-2021, 07:22 PM	#1
Yong Fang Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 04, 2009 Location: Memphis Tennessee Posts: 3,072	Movie “Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore”, Alfred Lutter I have seen the film before but I saw “Alice Doesn’t Live Anymore” last night. It is a good film actually. It is about a woman who has a dream of being a singer (honestly, I don’t think she was that great of a singer, sorry Ellen Burstyn), but ended up being a lower middle class housewife to an emotionally abusive truck driver and (what my post is about), the most annoying kid ever. This Tommy was played by a one Alfred Lutter, and like I mentioned, his character of Tommy was to me well acted, but he played absolutely the most annoying, smartass kid ever who basically would get on your list nerve. I am watching the film and wanted to belt this kid. I think that was the point, this woman is going through a lot of stress, losing a husband, having no money, living in poverty, and Tommy just added to her anxiety. You could tell that this kid will probably not end up well in life. Just too much of a jerk. The TV Alice son Tommy was the opposite, very intelligent, athletic (Lutter couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time), respectful. I have read that Lutter was supposed to be on the TV show but was passed over supposedly because of his attitude, so maybe his Tommy wasn’t much different. But the kid grew up to be very successful. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lutter

06-16-2021, 08:47 PM	#2
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01-14-2025, 01:26 AM	#13
James28 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2007 Posts: 3,973	Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore aired on TCM tonight as part of a tribute to Kris Kristofferson. And if you think my feelings on Linda Lavin being outlived by Polly Holliday can't get any more hardened, the closed-captions for Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore have not been changed to sentence-case. Any time I check the closed-captioning for a Warner Bros. film (always having the volume on my TV or laptop off while doing so), I always get disappointed about this. I wish such a conversion had happened before either Ms. Lavin or Mr. Kristofferson died. (BTW, all of the films airing as part of that tribute to Mr. Kristofferson are part of the Warner Bros. library.) ;(
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06-17-2021, 09:38 AM	#3
howilu Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 20, 2003 Location: St. Louis Park, MN Posts: 1,959	He would later go on to play Ogilvie in The Bad News Bears movies.

02-11-2023, 12:44 AM	#4
Rich3 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 689	He was also in an episode of Family playing an annoying neighbor kid. They explained him as being an only child or something like that. Personally I always liked his character in the original film.

02-12-2023, 08:53 PM	#5
FredScuttle Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 31, 2005 Posts: 477	There was a funny line in the pilot where Tommy (Alfred) said "now I'll never get to meet Tatum O'Neal". Alfred and Tatum were both in Bad News Bears earlier that year.

02-13-2023, 03:48 AM	#6
TheLittleFaerie Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 15, 2017 Posts: 1,945	Alfred Luther as Tommy sorta reminded me of a boy version of Heather Hartman from Mary HartmanX2. It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but he was obviously a victim of abuse also by Don, then being drug around while other men were abusive to him and his mother, its no wonder he was how he was, so I felt sorry for him I think the Tommy from the TV series had sorta a smart-ass edge but in a good way lol

04-21-2023, 08:52 PM	#11
Rich3 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 689	Mott the Hoople. T Rex. It's like a cavalcade of glam rock. It's also got at least 3 of the actors from Taxi Driver. Watching it now.