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vitoscotti · 05-01-2021, 01:31 AM

I'm about midway through season 3. Ward is an interesting guy. It's rare LITB goes into a lot of detail about the adults past. Some bits about Ward & June are brought up. More Ward than June.

Raised on a farm.
His father wasn't a great communicator, or ultra understanding.
He's Ward Jr. Not called Jr as an adult
Went to college
Played basketball in college
Implied he was quite the ladies man
Was in the Seabees
Involved in construction design in the Seabees
June used her feminine wiles to hook him.
Appears to be mid level management at his firm the way he scolded fellow worker Charlie.
He & Fred at the same level at the firm working side-by-side. Though Fred is never hinted at being management.
Has liquor and smokes in house but never seen indulging.
Likes to hunt and fish.

Did I miss anything?

PracTz · 05-01-2021, 03:20 AM

Ward once claimed that on the last day of each schoolyear, all the kids in his rural school would take their shoes off and leave them there until they returned in the fall- which Wally seemed to want to do but June stiffly told him 'don't YOU do it'. While I'm sure the shoes would stayed untouched, it's hard to believe that they'd have fitted all the returning students' feet that had grown each summer .

Tankeryanker · 05-01-2021, 08:32 AM

I thought it was the pot roast that secured Ward, not June's wiles.

stevea · 05-01-2021, 10:13 AM

Ward was slightly higher up at work than Fred, since once June remarked he had a corner office while Fred didn't. Maybe Ward was a 1-B manager and Fred was a 1-C.

Early on Ward had a noticeable temper, but at the same time reluctantly and regretfully admitted his mistakes (as in Beaver Runs Away). Later the temper was on display less, and he was more formal, and less fallible than in the early episodes.

In a short-running gag, he had a propensity to start off what would seem to be long stories, to June, and while his back was turned, she exited.

vitoscotti · 05-01-2021, 11:40 AM

Interesting for a show that has a lot of inconsistency in continuity how impeccable they are with Ward's past. Even with different writers, where the past is changed, or forgotten, Ward's past stays the same.

stevea · 05-01-2021, 11:53 AM

Good point--nearly all the inconsistencies are with kids/teens.

Maybe Connelly and Mosher gave the writers bio info. on both (patterned after a real person).

GentlemanJim · 05-01-2021, 12:01 PM

We know he doesn't own an expansive leisure wardrobe, frequently requiring him to wear his business suits on weekends and late into the evenings

vitoscotti · 05-01-2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

Good point--nearly all the inconsistencies are with kids/teens.

Maybe Connelly and Mosher gave the writers bio info. on both (patterned after a real person).

Had to. The writers seemed clueless to kids cast continuity. Ward represented a lot of good aspects of life, America, doing the right thing, clean living. His inner strength was the rock of the show. They felt his character's continuity was essential to the message being sent through the show. A complex man, yet loving life's simple pleasures. They didn't want to tarnish the Ward character, for all good and strength he represented.

stevea · 05-01-2021, 01:02 PM

Probably one of the most glaring inconsistencies is coming up in a few weeks on MeTV. Beaver thinks he is going to babysit Chuckie Murdock and it turns out to be Chuckie's sister, Pat. When Beaver arrives, Chuckie and Beaver don't know each other. Huh? What about the new shoes episode, and the episode with the frogs? Surely the actors knew how wrong this was, but they were probably to act their parts and keep their mouths shut. But what about sitting around at the run-through? I'd think the star could speak up then.

The whole episode isn't plausible anyway. Of course sitcom scripts often rely on strange coincidences, but this one is a bridge too far.

vitoscotti · 05-01-2021, 01:21 PM

My next episode is "Beaver and Andy". Checking the episode out who's playing Andy? Wendell Holmes. Earlier was Beaver's teacher Mr Willet. Then later Mr Blair. Bizarre, but it all works.

stevea · 05-01-2021, 01:28 PM

It does work. Andy Hadlock is probably his most interesting portrayal. Really a good actor.

vitoscotti · 05-02-2021, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stevea

It does work. Andy Hadlock is probably his most interesting portrayal. Really a good actor.

Wendell Holmes portrayal of Andy was truly brilliant acting. Made me think LITB doesn't exactly lend itself to be the best platform to view an actor's true talent. Let face it no one will confuse Tony Dow with Laurence Olivier. I think Hugh Beaumont, and Richard Deacon could of nailed an Andy.like part if they took it on.

CosmicCharlie · 05-02-2021, 06:33 PM

you forgot that Ward got his A$$ whipped from his dad !

stevea · 05-02-2021, 07:26 PM

Beaver (to Ward): Oh, that's right, you had a hittin' father, didn't ya?

Tankeryanker · 05-02-2021, 07:55 PM

Ward sounds like an abused child by today's standards.

05-01-2021, 01:31 AM	#1
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,084	What we know about Ward I'm about midway through season 3. Ward is an interesting guy. It's rare LITB goes into a lot of detail about the adults past. Some bits about Ward & June are brought up. More Ward than June. Raised on a farm. His father wasn't a great communicator, or ultra understanding. He's Ward Jr. Not called Jr as an adult Went to college Played basketball in college Implied he was quite the ladies man Was in the Seabees Involved in construction design in the Seabees June used her feminine wiles to hook him. Appears to be mid level management at his firm the way he scolded fellow worker Charlie. He & Fred at the same level at the firm working side-by-side. Though Fred is never hinted at being management. Has liquor and smokes in house but never seen indulging. Likes to hunt and fish. Did I miss anything?
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05-01-2021, 12:01 PM	#7
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05-01-2021, 03:20 AM	#2
PracTz Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2002 Location: United States of America [Happily Living in the 20th Century] Posts: 2,711	Ward once claimed that on the last day of each schoolyear, all the kids in his rural school would take their shoes off and leave them there until they returned in the fall- which Wally seemed to want to do but June stiffly told him 'don't YOU do it'. While I'm sure the shoes would stayed untouched, it's hard to believe that they'd have fitted all the returning students' feet that had grown each summer .

05-01-2021, 08:32 AM	#3
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,051	I thought it was the pot roast that secured Ward, not June's wiles.

05-01-2021, 10:13 AM	#4
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	Ward was slightly higher up at work than Fred, since once June remarked he had a corner office while Fred didn't. Maybe Ward was a 1-B manager and Fred was a 1-C. Early on Ward had a noticeable temper, but at the same time reluctantly and regretfully admitted his mistakes (as in Beaver Runs Away). Later the temper was on display less, and he was more formal, and less fallible than in the early episodes. In a short-running gag, he had a propensity to start off what would seem to be long stories, to June, and while his back was turned, she exited.

05-01-2021, 11:40 AM	#5
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,084	Interesting for a show that has a lot of inconsistency in continuity how impeccable they are with Ward's past. Even with different writers, where the past is changed, or forgotten, Ward's past stays the same.

05-01-2021, 11:53 AM	#6
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	Good point--nearly all the inconsistencies are with kids/teens. Maybe Connelly and Mosher gave the writers bio info. on both (patterned after a real person).

05-01-2021, 01:02 PM	#9
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	Probably one of the most glaring inconsistencies is coming up in a few weeks on MeTV. Beaver thinks he is going to babysit Chuckie Murdock and it turns out to be Chuckie's sister, Pat. When Beaver arrives, Chuckie and Beaver don't know each other. Huh? What about the new shoes episode, and the episode with the frogs? Surely the actors knew how wrong this was, but they were probably to act their parts and keep their mouths shut. But what about sitting around at the run-through? I'd think the star could speak up then. The whole episode isn't plausible anyway. Of course sitcom scripts often rely on strange coincidences, but this one is a bridge too far.

05-01-2021, 01:21 PM	#10
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,084	My next episode is "Beaver and Andy". Checking the episode out who's playing Andy? Wendell Holmes. Earlier was Beaver's teacher Mr Willet. Then later Mr Blair. Bizarre, but it all works.

05-01-2021, 01:28 PM	#11
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	It does work. Andy Hadlock is probably his most interesting portrayal. Really a good actor.

05-02-2021, 06:33 PM	#13
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,450	you forgot that Ward got his A$$ whipped from his dad !

05-02-2021, 07:26 PM	#14
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	Beaver (to Ward): Oh, that's right, you had a hittin' father, didn't ya?

05-02-2021, 07:55 PM	#15
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,051	Ward sounds like an abused child by today's standards.