Wally & Dudley 3/18/61 S4 E25 - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

CosmicCharlie · 04-26-2021, 10:51 PM

I find this episode missing a Big Part of Real Life 1960's ...

At Wally's party they get the record player working, and they (16 & 17 year olds) are all dressed to the 9's and dancing to some string(s) orchestra music ...

Didn't the writers know about Rock n Roll, Elvis, Chuck Berry, or Motown ... ? SO many cool groups back then !

This episode would have been SO Much Better with a taste of the young people's music that was just breaking on AM radio & 45's back then.

Was the show THAT Conservative ?

Dudley playing Jerry Lee Lewis would have made this episode ROCK with the younger viewers ! I think they miss a good chance ...

stevea · 04-28-2021, 10:56 AM

The show runners and writers were "greatest generation" people. So this was the teen world they wanted to see, not the real one. It's unfortunate, and we see it in other episodes, too.

The actors were there to act out the script--I'd bet the teen actors had their opinions.

vitoscotti · 04-28-2021, 11:47 AM

As Arthur Spooner said to Spence on King of Queens, "this place is squaresville".

CosmicCharlie · 04-28-2021, 12:36 PM

Beaver had 45's but Wally is listening to LP's 33 1/3 (see photo)

Torgo · 04-28-2021, 12:39 PM

How many shows back then were playing real life big name performers\music in their episodes?

CosmicCharlie · 04-28-2021, 02:43 PM

Patty Duke Show had many ... maybe the most (?)

stevea · 04-28-2021, 04:16 PM

Rick Nelson on Ozzie and Harriet; James Darren, Lesley Gore, Shelley Fabares on Donna Reed.

We had a few misc. performances by Chad and Jeremy, and Boyce and Hart. The Monkees. These were later 60s.

CosmicCharlie · 04-28-2021, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

Rick Nelson on Ozzie and Harriet; James Darren, Lesley Gore, Shelley Fabares on Donna Reed.

We had a few misc. performances by Chad and Jeremy, and Boyce and Hart. The Monkees. These were later 60s.

Boyce and Hart.
Sidney Thomas "Tommy" Boyce (September 29, 1939 – November 23, 1994) and Bobby Hart (born Robert Luke Harshman; February 18, 1939) were a prolific American duo of singer-songwriters. In addition to three top-40 hits as artists, the duo is well known for its songwriting for The Monkees.

stevea · 04-29-2021, 08:27 AM

Boyce and Hart were on Bewitched, performing the song Serena supposedly wrote. It's not too bad, esp. compared with that horrible Davy Jones song on Brady Bunch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hydnv1XSBA

Jeremy Clyde was on My Three Sons in season 8. I think they both were on an I Dream of Jeannie episode.

biffbronson · 04-29-2021, 08:39 AM

The Dudley episode is sort of interesting to see Jimmy Hawkins in an unusual role.

Just wanted to mention that from more of a folk genre, My Three Sons had Jackie DeShannon sing in an early 1967 episode (Season 7)-- pre-dating the Jeremy Clyde appearance by about 11 months. I might also mention that Peter, Paul & Mary appeared in a 1964 Jack Benny show.

CosmicCharlie · 04-29-2021, 03:43 PM

I'm a fan of Jack Benny Show and in that episode Mary is very pretty !
That show has many funny scenes as well ...

Tankeryanker · 04-29-2021, 10:13 PM

This is pretty conservative.

The Original Stroll - February 1958

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGLNtZ0rEg

CosmicCharlie · 04-29-2021, 10:40 PM

In elementary school (early 60's) we had the traveling square dance teacher visit each month (?) Mrs Griffith ?

We would square dance with the same dismal expressions of those kids, having to actually touch a girls hand (OMG) !

I cannot remember ANY of the dances we did, and we did learn plenty ... (seems those files have been corrupted) lol

stevea · 04-29-2021, 11:15 PM

This is the kind of thing that should have been playing at Christine Staples' party. Then have the record player malfunction and Dudley could play the piano.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdSGjmhtaL0

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8dEn6qCecg

CosmicCharlie · 04-29-2021, 11:47 PM

wow - the times sure have changed - even by 1967 +- so different when I see those "At The Hop " lol good stuff

04-26-2021, 10:51 PM	#1
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,451	Wally & Dudley 3/18/61 S4 E25 I find this episode missing a Big Part of Real Life 1960's ... At Wally's party they get the record player working, and they (16 & 17 year olds) are all dressed to the 9's and dancing to some string(s) orchestra music ... Didn't the writers know about Rock n Roll, Elvis, Chuck Berry, or Motown ... ? SO many cool groups back then ! This episode would have been SO Much Better with a taste of the young people's music that was just breaking on AM radio & 45's back then. Was the show THAT Conservative ? Dudley playing Jerry Lee Lewis would have made this episode ROCK with the younger viewers ! I think they miss a good chance ... Attached Images

04-28-2021, 12:39 PM	#5
Torgo Omaha & Fritz Forum Star Join Date: Mar 06, 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 19,038	How many shows back then were playing real life big name performers\music in their episodes?
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04-28-2021, 10:56 AM	#2
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,942	The show runners and writers were "greatest generation" people. So this was the teen world they wanted to see, not the real one. It's unfortunate, and we see it in other episodes, too. The actors were there to act out the script--I'd bet the teen actors had their opinions.

04-28-2021, 11:47 AM	#3
vitoscotti Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 14, 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,084	As Arthur Spooner said to Spence on King of Queens, "this place is squaresville".

04-28-2021, 12:36 PM	#4
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,451	Beaver had 45's but Wally is listening to LP's 33 1/3 (see photo)

04-28-2021, 02:43 PM	#6
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,451	Patty Duke Show had many ... maybe the most (?)

04-28-2021, 04:16 PM	#7
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,942	Rick Nelson on Ozzie and Harriet; James Darren, Lesley Gore, Shelley Fabares on Donna Reed. We had a few misc. performances by Chad and Jeremy, and Boyce and Hart. The Monkees. These were later 60s.

04-29-2021, 08:27 AM	#9
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,942	Boyce and Hart were on Bewitched, performing the song Serena supposedly wrote. It's not too bad, esp. compared with that horrible Davy Jones song on Brady Bunch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hydnv1XSBA Jeremy Clyde was on My Three Sons in season 8. I think they both were on an I Dream of Jeannie episode.

04-29-2021, 08:39 AM	#10
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,532	The Dudley episode is sort of interesting to see Jimmy Hawkins in an unusual role. Just wanted to mention that from more of a folk genre, My Three Sons had Jackie DeShannon sing in an early 1967 episode (Season 7)-- pre-dating the Jeremy Clyde appearance by about 11 months. I might also mention that Peter, Paul & Mary appeared in a 1964 Jack Benny show.

04-29-2021, 03:43 PM	#11
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,451	I'm a fan of Jack Benny Show and in that episode Mary is very pretty ! That show has many funny scenes as well ...

04-29-2021, 10:13 PM	#12
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,051	This is pretty conservative. The Original Stroll - February 1958 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGLNtZ0rEg

04-29-2021, 10:40 PM	#13
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,451	In elementary school (early 60's) we had the traveling square dance teacher visit each month (?) Mrs Griffith ? We would square dance with the same dismal expressions of those kids, having to actually touch a girls hand (OMG) ! I cannot remember ANY of the dances we did, and we did learn plenty ... (seems those files have been corrupted) lol

04-29-2021, 11:15 PM	#14
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,942	This is the kind of thing that should have been playing at Christine Staples' party. Then have the record player malfunction and Dudley could play the piano. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdSGjmhtaL0 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8dEn6qCecg

04-29-2021, 11:47 PM	#15
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,451	wow - the times sure have changed - even by 1967 +- so different when I see those "At The Hop " lol good stuff