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SarcasticBella · 02-11-2021, 09:17 PM

I just watched the Elisa Lam documentary on Netflix today and was blown away! If you are not familiar with this case, she was a young woman from Canada traveling abroad and staying at the Cecil Hotel in LA back in 2013. She went missing and was eventually found dead after 19 days in the hotels water tank. After years of conspiracy theories and one of the creepiest videos I’ve ever seen, they ended the segment with a clear and logical explication. That being that this was a young woman with a diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder who was prone to psychotic features and hallucinations when she would go off her medication. Based on the evidence, they theorize she had stopped taking her meds halfway through this trip, and one night experienced a psychotic break where she thought she was being chased. She took the fire escape out her bedroom window, and went up to the water tanks to “hide”. From there, she ultimately succumbed to drowning.

It was so clear and so obvious, that I can’t believe I ever gave the other ideas a second thought.

Which brings me here. Do you feel (especially maybe with some of the suicide cases or random deaths) that the most obvious answer was in front of everyone but the family couldn’t bring themselves to accept it and therefore chose to follow other leads and ideas?

freakbook · 02-11-2021, 10:42 PM

Jeffrey Digman

I understand his father was in a state of hurt and disbelief, but I felt bad laughing in the segment when he was trying to prove that Jeffrey didn't do it with contraptions

ghosthouse · 02-12-2021, 08:40 AM

Each of the cases they aired where a family thought their beloved didn't die in war.

And, it's not UM nor family perpetuating it, but i can't resist -- The JFK assassination.

Killarney Rose · 02-12-2021, 09:27 AM

I do believe that, in the cases where they believe that their family member did not die in the war, or did not commit suicide.

unsolved88 · 02-12-2021, 11:11 AM

Cheryl Lombardi with her pencil in the headboard explanation.

WishfulDreamer · 02-12-2021, 01:22 PM

I have to agree with the war cases (with the exception of Charles Shelton, as there actually was solid evidence that he was alive for a long time). Do I blame the families for clutching at straws? Absolutely not.

But the one that went really overboard was the Curt Borton segment. It was like something out of a TV movie (tapped phones, stalking, being approaching in parking lots/public with threats/coercion, and claiming to see Curt himself several times). I feel for the family, but this one was truly a crazy segment that went way into the far-fetched realm.

unsolved88 · 02-12-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WishfulDreamer

I have to agree with the war cases (with the exception of Charles Shelton, as there actually was solid evidence that he was alive for a long time). Do I blame the families for clutching at straws? Absolutely not.

But the one that went really overboard was the Curt Borton segment. It was like something out of a TV movie (tapped phones, stalking, being approaching in parking lots/public with threats/coercion, and claiming to see Curt himself several times). I feel for the family, but this one was truly a crazy segment that went way into the far-fetched realm.

One of the things that always kind of convinced me that Curt Borton's family was merely seeing what they wanted to see was the fact that unlike many similar segments where "The Army decline our request for an interview", the army official was interviewed on camera.

It almost felt like they were trying to say "No, seriously, we didn't do this. You can't lay it at our doorstep.". LOL

ghosthouse · 02-12-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WishfulDreamer

I have to agree with the war cases (with the exception of Charles Shelton, as there actually was solid evidence that he was alive for a long time).

Re: The Shelton case...it always just seemed odd to me that his family would get regular "updates" on Charles. The idea that they would get stories about where he was and what he was doing just seems implausible.

SarcasticBella · 02-12-2021, 04:16 PM

The Katherine Korzillius case always struck me a young girl who tried to climb on the back of the car as a game, as if to say “haha! I beat you home!” Only to fall off when the car got moving. I don’t think it was as sinister as the family believes it to be. Sadly someone posted recently her brother Chris had died. The family has really been through a lot.

bell83 · 02-12-2021, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by freakbook

Jeffrey Digman

I understand his father was in a state of hurt and disbelief, but I felt bad laughing in the segment when he was trying to prove that Jeffrey didn't do it with contraptions

The thing that sealed it for me was when he talks about how everything is set up exactly the way it was in the bedroom, and how he and his son were the same height...but when they show a picture of Jeffrey standing next to the same exact headboard, you can see he's easily at least a foot taller than his father.

spaceace · 02-12-2021, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bell83

The thing that sealed it for me was when he talks about how everything is set up exactly the way it was in the bedroom, and how he and his son were the same height...but when they show a picture of Jeffrey standing next to the same exact headboard, you can see he's easily at least a foot taller than his father.

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I always had trouble believing the foul play/suicide cases. Especially when the family hires a PI who comes up with his own wild theory.

freakbook · 02-12-2021, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bell83

The thing that sealed it for me was when he talks about how everything is set up exactly the way it was in the bedroom, and how he and his son were the same height...but when they show a picture of Jeffrey standing next to the same exact headboard, you can see he's easily at least a foot taller than his father.

Lmao I know. Man, I feel bad laughing at that but geeze

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I always had trouble believing the foul play/suicide cases. Especially when the family hires a PI who comes up with his own wild theory.

Evertytime I think about Jeffrey Digman your profile picture pops into my mind

TheCars1986 · 02-13-2021, 08:27 AM

Any case involving an intoxicated individual/s who either disappeared or died under suspicious circumstances. The family will point to random "evidence" like a discarded shoe, or a hat found on the side of the road, and somehow this supports a foul play scenario. Even when an area is searched prior and nothing is found does not mean that whatever is ultimately found (body, piece of evidence) was planted.

jOHnNyD · 02-13-2021, 07:54 PM

Mark Dennis. The irony is the military fueled the family’s persistence by being so open and accommodating to them. By giving them so much information and attention for so long it just opened up opportunities for them to question things and see hope that wasn’t there.

Jon · 02-14-2021, 01:44 PM

Kari Lynn Nixon was one we saw play out in real time. The runaway theory seemed to have everyone convinced.

Then you had the lady on camera saying “I know I’ve met you Kari” — she had egg on her face for sure.

That said, I respected the New Kids making a televised plea to Kari as it was absolutely the right thing to do at that moment.

02-11-2021, 09:17 PM	#1
SarcasticBella Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 13, 2017 Location: South Carolina Posts: 75	Cases you felt where people went overboard proving theories? I just watched the Elisa Lam documentary on Netflix today and was blown away! If you are not familiar with this case, she was a young woman from Canada traveling abroad and staying at the Cecil Hotel in LA back in 2013. She went missing and was eventually found dead after 19 days in the hotels water tank. After years of conspiracy theories and one of the creepiest videos I’ve ever seen, they ended the segment with a clear and logical explication. That being that this was a young woman with a diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder who was prone to psychotic features and hallucinations when she would go off her medication. Based on the evidence, they theorize she had stopped taking her meds halfway through this trip, and one night experienced a psychotic break where she thought she was being chased. She took the fire escape out her bedroom window, and went up to the water tanks to “hide”. From there, she ultimately succumbed to drowning. It was so clear and so obvious, that I can’t believe I ever gave the other ideas a second thought. Which brings me here. Do you feel (especially maybe with some of the suicide cases or random deaths) that the most obvious answer was in front of everyone but the family couldn’t bring themselves to accept it and therefore chose to follow other leads and ideas?
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02-11-2021, 10:42 PM	#2
freakbook Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2017 Posts: 2,256	Jeffrey Digman I understand his father was in a state of hurt and disbelief, but I felt bad laughing in the segment when he was trying to prove that Jeffrey didn't do it with contraptions

02-12-2021, 08:40 AM	#3
ghosthouse Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 03, 2019 Location: Amish Country Posts: 298	Each of the cases they aired where a family thought their beloved didn't die in war. And, it's not UM nor family perpetuating it, but i can't resist -- The JFK assassination.

02-12-2021, 09:27 AM	#4
Killarney Rose Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 24, 2010 Location: AL Posts: 656	I do believe that, in the cases where they believe that their family member did not die in the war, or did not commit suicide.

02-12-2021, 11:11 AM	#5
unsolved88 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 16, 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 514	Cheryl Lombardi with her pencil in the headboard explanation.

02-12-2021, 01:22 PM	#6
WishfulDreamer Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 01, 2009 Location: L.A. Posts: 3,868	I have to agree with the war cases (with the exception of Charles Shelton, as there actually was solid evidence that he was alive for a long time). Do I blame the families for clutching at straws? Absolutely not. But the one that went really overboard was the Curt Borton segment. It was like something out of a TV movie (tapped phones, stalking, being approaching in parking lots/public with threats/coercion, and claiming to see Curt himself several times). I feel for the family, but this one was truly a crazy segment that went way into the far-fetched realm.

02-12-2021, 04:16 PM	#9
SarcasticBella Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 13, 2017 Location: South Carolina Posts: 75	The Katherine Korzillius case always struck me a young girl who tried to climb on the back of the car as a game, as if to say “haha! I beat you home!” Only to fall off when the car got moving. I don’t think it was as sinister as the family believes it to be. Sadly someone posted recently her brother Chris had died. The family has really been through a lot.

02-13-2021, 08:27 AM	#13
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,610	Any case involving an intoxicated individual/s who either disappeared or died under suspicious circumstances. The family will point to random "evidence" like a discarded shoe, or a hat found on the side of the road, and somehow this supports a foul play scenario. Even when an area is searched prior and nothing is found does not mean that whatever is ultimately found (body, piece of evidence) was planted.

02-13-2021, 07:54 PM	#14
jOHnNyD Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 11, 2017 Posts: 103	Mark Dennis. The irony is the military fueled the family’s persistence by being so open and accommodating to them. By giving them so much information and attention for so long it just opened up opportunities for them to question things and see hope that wasn’t there.

02-14-2021, 01:44 PM	#15
Jon Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 22, 2011 Location: TX Posts: 926	Kari Lynn Nixon was one we saw play out in real time. The runaway theory seemed to have everyone convinced. Then you had the lady on camera saying “I know I’ve met you Kari” — she had egg on her face for sure. That said, I respected the New Kids making a televised plea to Kari as it was absolutely the right thing to do at that moment.